Keep Brad or trade Brad?

[NoBonus]

Now that all of the good, free-agent centers have been scooped up and teams like San Antonio are in the starting center hunt, should the Kings trade Brad Miller as his value, due to the increased demand for starting centers, is high (provided you are trading for a non-center) OR do the Kings hang on to Brad because finding a suitable replacement starting center has become increasingly difficult? What do you think?

Vote and comment please.

 

[whozit]

If it's for a "non-center," no. Instead of looking for either a back-up or starting center (some have advocated benching him), you would then need both. Otherwise (if the trade involves a swap of big men somehow) it would depend on who is coming back and what else is involved.

 

[Burrito06]

I don't see us trading him unless we are getting another starting caliber center in return. I do seee us however going after another PF. I still like Reef but we'll see how that goes.

 

[Warhawk]

Should have more options here. I can't answer based on those 2 choices....

 

[Bricklayer]

Brad's fate was never tied very closely to any of the free agent centers with the possible exception of Pryzbilla. In fact, if anything some of them might have been exuses to KEEP him based ont he idea that his backup would take care of all the big man work while Brad did his thing.

In any case, it was always much more likely that any move of Brad would come about as a result of a good trade rather than signign somebody out of a weak FA class. And actually as it becomes increasingly unlikely we are going to be able to patch our holes up front through FAs or the draft, all that is left is trade. And in a trade I would think almost any of our frontcourt mess would be out there as trade pawns if we are actually serious about changing things up.

 

[atxrocker]

While I would rank KT higher in the "gotta move" category, with Brad's soft play and dissapearing act in the playoffs I hope Petrie can work something out to get rid of this guy. He has proven his heart is not here and displayed very poor play. If we can aquire a piece that addresses some of our needs, then I wouldn't think twice about pulling the trigger on that deal.

 

[Wuster]

While I would rank KT higher in the "gotta move" category, with Brad's soft play and dissapearing act in the playoffs I hope Petrie can work something out to get rid of this guy. He has proven his heart is not here and displayed very poor play. If we can aquire a piece that addresses some of our needs, then I wouldn't think twice about pulling the trigger on that deal.

Texas-rock says it well. If Brad stays, I wonder if Muss can get him back into All-star form...?

 

[VF21]

I can't vote but I will comment.

If we get the right offer for Brad, we pull the trigger in a heart-beat. BUT I don't think I can agree with a suggestion to simply "trade him now!" If you put a GOOD power forward out there with him, I think you'll see more of the old Brad. (Okay, that might be wishful thinking but I do believe he works better when he's paired with a STRONG presence at the 4.)

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

If you put a GOOD power forward out there with him, I think you'll see more of the old Brad. (Okay, that might be wishful thinking but I do believe he works better when he's paired with a STRONG presence at the 4.)

That's not wishful thinking, it's been proven. That's why so much of this "back to his 03-04 form" stuff is bunk: the only way Miller's going to approach those numbers is if he's paired with a great PF (ie, Webber) or a C that's even better than he is (ie, Divac).

Miller can't put up those numbers in the proverbial "vacuum," as was shown by his drop off last season. He needs a good player to make him better.

 

[GoGoGadget]

Can't vote. Trading someone isn't a yes or no question. Answer's yes IF it's the right move, no IF we're getting back "flexible pieces."

If Brad was a cancer, or his softness was spreading, maybe it becomes a must move situation. But we're not there yet.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Won't vote. Trade Brad for who? Keep Brad in what kind of line up? Too many factors.

 

[Fresno King]

I liked it when Brad played the 4 and Divac started at the 5. It gave the Kings the best record in the league once upon a time. Now, if we could get Alonzo Mourning for the minimum, move Brad back to the 4 and get Wells re-signed...

PG-Mike Bibby
SG-Bonzi Wells
SF-Ron Artest
PF-Brad Miller
C-Alonzo Mourning

I mean, that's not bad at all for a year, 2 max. Mourning's a monster down low, and if we promised him a starting spot, he might take the offer. He could also be a mentor to Williams or Gray... or maybe even both. AND we save a little $$$.

IMHO, it's the best option left if we go the free agent route.

 

[RS189]

Only trade him if we're obviously going to improve by it, not for anyone just because they can block shots

 

[Kings113]

Unless we find a good defensive center in a trade, right now, you keep Brad. Even if it means him backing up a guy like Magloire, if you need to do that to make the Magloire deal work (because of Magloire being in his contract year). Which I think he'd be better being a back-up now anyways. Not sure how the minutes would go if Magloire was a back-up, but still.

Obviously though, were gonna have to get defense and some athleticism around this guy. I expect it. Our front-court isn't too good right now defensively, has little athleticism.

Deal on Mourning - he's either going back to the Heat, or retiring.

 

[Rome]

Well most of you already know my answer. I prefer him to be traded simply because centers that can't play defense and perform up to expectations in the playoffs will NEVER win you a championship...

 

[Kings113]

That's part of why I think he'd be better as a back-up... especially at this point and time in his career. He wouldn't have to expand as much energy in general, have less pressure on him (not meaning not "clutch", from what I've seen Brad's pretty clutch), could possibly concentrate on hustling and effort plays again, while hitting a few jumpers and making some passes.

Not only if Magloire comes, but in other cases.

 

[Bricklayer]

Brad's too major of a player ot be a backup. Not to mention too major of a contract. Nor is his game well suited to tht type of role. Would jsut be a waste of resources. Now you might be able to back him off to a Vladeesque 30mpg and get somewhat better production. Maybe. But paying $9mil for a backup center who lacks forcefulness in any one area isn't a really good situation to be in I think.

 

[Kings113]

Well I say that mainly because of getting Magloire... does he want to be a back-up in his contract year? If so, how would the minutes go? I'd assume nicely, but we don't know how it's gonna go.

If he does not want to back-up Brad, then Brad has to be a team player and back-up Magloire, and the minutes would be distributed well. Or, we can't get Magloire because we don't want to have Brad as a back-up, and the deal is off. Thus having to look to Etan Thomas or something els Geoff can pull off.

Then you have the Bucks side, since Villanueva's gonna be starting, does KT's bench crap change there? Do the Bucks know about that? It's just less realistic now, from probably both sides, especially from the Bucks point of view.

 

[RS189]

There's always starting Brad at PF and Magloire at C (If KT is traded in the deal), then SAR could come off the bench and brad could move up to C when magloire is on the bench.

 

[Kings113]

I don't like that, and don't think it's realistic with what Muss wants to do.

 

[RS189]

who would start at PF then? You would have both brad and magloire at center

 

[Rome]

who would start at PF then? You would have both brad and magloire at center

SAR can start at PF if Magloire starts at center. You will still have a lot of points from your front court.

 

[RS189]

SAR can start at PF if Magloire starts at center. You will still have a lot of points from your front court.

Yea SAR would probably be more effective in the starting lineup with a defensive center, but when magloire leaves after a year we're going to have the same problem

 

[Rome]

You can always trade Miller and get rid of his huge contract while getting a solid center who can alter shots, rebound, and play defense along side SAR. SAR is much cheaper than Miller + can score more points if you have the right center next to him.

 

[Kings113]

who would start at PF then? You would have both brad and magloire at center

SAR or someone else, and one of Brad/Magloire backs the other up at center.

You can always trade Miller and get rid of his huge contract while getting a solid center who can alter shots, rebound, and play defense along side SAR. SAR is much cheaper than Miller + can score more points if you have the right center next to him.

Agreed, I'd trade Brad for a nice packeege that benefits the team.

 

[RS189]

You can always trade Miller and get rid of his huge contract while getting a solid center who can alter shots, rebound, and play defense along side SAR. SAR is much cheaper than Miller + can score more points if you have the right center next to him.

Agreed, if we're trading miller moreso to help the team and less to get rid of the contract, then definately do it.

 

[Bricklayer]

Agreed, if we're trading miller moreso to help the team and less to get rid of the contract, then definately do it.

You don't dump a Brad Miller to get rid of his contract. For all of his woes, he's still a Top 10 center. If you move him, you need to get back value, not cap space, because its going to be next to impossible to sign a center at his level on the FA market.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I can't vote but I will comment.

If we get the right offer for Brad, we pull the trigger in a heart-beat. BUT I don't think I can agree with a suggestion to simply "trade him now!" If you put a GOOD power forward out there with him, I think you'll see more of the old Brad. (Okay, that might be wishful thinking but I do believe he works better when he's paired with a STRONG presence at the 4.)

I agree 100%

 

[SacTownKid]

Some people sure do underrate Brad Miller as a player.

 

[BMiller52]

Some people sure do underrate Brad Miller as a player.

Yeah it's like just because he had a bad year they want to get rid of him.