JT, any takers? Anyone?

[TonyTouch21]

We absolutely need to move him. I know some of you would prefer to move Landry, but I'd like him to stay. PDA and Malone hand picked him because he's more athletic, more mobile at the 4. JT is more of a slower, plodding big 4/5. Carl's knee surgery should heal fine, not like C Webb's. After his hip surgery, he recovered and played fantastic. He played the way Malone needed him to.
Now, who would take JT? My best guesses are Charlotte and Boston. The Hornets lost Josh McRoberts and are working with the project Vonleh. The Celts just lost Kris Humphries and JT would probably fill in perfectly. I'm not a NBA math wiz, but these two teams could probably make a deal somehow.
For a longtime I'd root for Jason "The Kid" Thompson to become my new "Chris Webber". But it started to become tiresome. JT has matched Cousins with complaints with the refs. If JT wore a headband, he would toss it like my new "Brad Miller".

 

[sdballer]

We absolutely need to move him. I know some of you would prefer to move Landry, but I'd like him to stay. PDA and Malone hand picked him because he's more athletic, more mobile at the 4. JT is more of a slower, plodding big 4/5. Carl's knee surgery should heal fine, not like C Webb's. After his hip surgery, he recovered and played fantastic. He played the way Malone needed him to.
Now, who would take JT? My best guesses are Charlotte and Boston. The Hornets lost Josh McRoberts and are working with the project Vonleh. The Celts just lost Kris Humphries and JT would probably fill in perfectly. I'm not a NBA math wiz, but these two teams could probably make a deal somehow.
For a longtime I'd root for Jason "The Kid" Thompson to become my new "Chris Webber". But it started to become tiresome. JT has matched Cousins with complaints with the refs. If JT wore a headband, he would toss it like my new "Brad Miller".

Landry can't play the 5 and is a worse defender. He also has 3 full years on his deal while JT's last is only partially guaranteed. I'd rather move Carl and keep JT as our 3rd big.

 

[CurseOfTheSalmons]

We absolutely need to move him.

i'm not convinced.

 

[TonyTouch21]

Landry can't play the 5 and is a worse defender. He also has 3 full years on his deal while JT's last is only partially guaranteed. I'd rather move Carl and keep JT as our 3rd big.

There is no way Landry could play Center, and JT is the only one trying to play Center. The best backup we had last year was Chuck Hayes. My only motive is that we should move JT and bring in a shot blocking 5/4. Better if we can move him with Terry.

 

[Bricklayer]

I think we will move him, if for no other reason than he's unhappy and the new front office has seemingly cared as much about moving every single guy from the old team than actually trying to find a use for them.

But I certainly don't think he HAS to be moved. Either he or Landry should be moved. Financially, it would be better to be rid of both of them. But much depends if we get back anything new.

Setting aside Acy as somebody Malone should stop playing, and Williams as a nothing backup SF if anything, a perfect structure might be:

Cousins
shotblocker who can play some center
potent stretch 4
Reggie Evans
extra shotblocking scrub center

until we get that shotblocker, Jason is the best fill in/approximation we have on the roster. And even if that shotblocker is a midget like Josh Smith, JT is then valuable as a 4/5 able to play backup C. Once we get that shotblocker, then yes, JT could be expendable. If big #2 is Larry Sanders, and big #4 is Reggie Evans, then Landry as Big #3 makes sense as a scorer (although Landry/Evans/Acy is more stupid runt stuff as a backup big set.

 

[Entity]

I think we will move him, if for no other reason than he's unhappy and the new front office has seemingly cared as much about moving every single guy from the old team than actually trying to find a use for them.

But I certainly don't think he HAS to be moved. Either he or Landry should be moved. Financially, it would be better to be rid of both of them. But much depends if we get back anything new.

Setting aside Acy as somebody Malone should stop playing, and Williams as a nothing backup SF if anything, a perfect structure might be:

Cousins
shotblocker who can play some center
potent stretch 4
Reggie Evans
extra shotblocking scrub center

until we get that shotblocker, Jason is the best fill in/approximation we have on the roster. And even if that shotblocker is a midget like Josh Smith, JT is then valuable as a 4/5 able to play backup C. Once we get that shotblocker, then yes, JT could be expendable. If big #2 is Larry Sanders, and big #4 is Reggie Evans, then Landry as Big #3 makes sense as a scorer (although Landry/Evans/Acy is more stupid runt stuff as a backup big set.

So JT needs to stay either way shotblocker or not he is serviceable at both positions. The absolute most expendable are
Landry
Acy
Evans
Williams

Any one or two or three of those for a legit shotblocker. I'd like to hold onto to Williams the longest because of
The backup SF position and emergency PF

 

[pshn80]

I don't think the question is are there any takers. I wouldn't move him unless it was necessary to get someone better. JT is our best candidate on the team for our Third big.

 

[Shabazz916]

id keep jt... id get rid of d will and landry

 

[King Baller]

Landry can't play the 5 and is a worse defender. He also has 3 full years on his deal while JT's last is only partially guaranteed. I'd rather move Carl and keep JT as our 3rd big.

+1, While Landry and JT can both play the 4 they are very different players. JT is a full size center who can guard the 4 and 5 spots. Landry is a sixth man type who can score inside when Cousins is on the bench, which as we all know occurs now and then.

 

[TonyTouch21]

+1, While Landry and JT can both play the 4 they are very different players. JT is a full size center who can guard the 4 and 5 spots. Landry is a sixth man type who can score inside when Cousins is on the bench, which as we all know occurs now and then.

I see what you are saying. That JT is our backup C that gets paid 6+ mil / year, and Carl "the 6th man" is getting 6+ mil. So are you meaning Reggie Evans is the starting 4? This is what the situation is, a PF logjam. With JT playing with Cuz, the paint is clogged. The flow in Malone's system is too slow in the movement. Malone WANTED Landry to play next to Cuz to play away from the key. It's a much more uptempo free flowing offense. This is the same system Landry was playing with GSW.
Your idea is okay, but PDA wants to play "Moneyball" and we need to make some room. Maybe your idea can still work, but somebody will have to leave and get us a swat machine.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

+1, While Landry and JT can both play the 4 they are very different players. JT is a full size center who can guard the 4 and 5 spots. Landry is a sixth man type who can score inside when Cousins is on the bench, which as we all know occurs now and then.

JT really isn't a "full sized center". He's another 'tweener', but that's actually where a lot of his value is...in his versatility at 4 and 5

 

[Tetsujin]

JT really isn't a "full sized center". He's another 'tweener', but that's actually where a lot of his value is...in his versatility at 4 and 5

In this day and age, 6'11" is a full-sized center.

 

[kingsboi]

I don't mind keeping JT around, even though he could use a change of scenery. In the mean time, he is serviceable as a big and can rebound and is a big body, which we lack very much. Obviously the first priority would be to try to get rid of JT and/or Carl but we just have to roll with what we have and hope that around the Feb. deadline we get a bite to take one of them of our hands.

 

[Glenn]

I don't mind keeping JT around, even though he could use a change of scenery. In the mean time, he is serviceable as a big and can rebound and is a big body, which we lack very much. Obviously the first priority would be to try to get rid of JT and/or Carl but we just have to roll with what we have and hope that around the Feb. deadline we get a bite to take one of them of our hands.

I think one of the reasons he would want a change in scenery is no longer on the team.

 

[kingsboi]

I think one of the reasons he would want a change in scenery is no longer on the team.

You don't think it's the year in and year out role change, head coach change and system change? I mean I know that point is moot now with an established owner, front office and coach but at some point you think that would of caught up to him and go to a team where he isn't hearing trade rumors about him for the last two seasons.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

In this day and age, 6'11" is a full-sized center.

Yeah, I go by more than just height. Weight and girth also

 

[Tetsujin]

Yeah, I go by more than just height. Weight and girth also

He's at 250 which is by no means massive but is still the same weight as Joel Embiid, twenty pounds heavier than Nerlens Noel, about fifteen pounds heavier than Pau Gasol, fifteen pounds lighter than Marc Gasol (who's often been the butt of many fat jokes), ten pounds heavier than Dwight Howard and Marcin Gortat.

 

[SacTownKid]

In this day and age, 6'11" is a full-sized center.

Doesn't matter if you get overpowered consistently at the position.

As for the question at hand, no there are no takers right now.

 

[Tetsujin]

Doesn't matter if you get overpowered consistently at the position.

As for the question at hand, no there are no takers right now.

Except there haven't been too many cases where JT's been "overpowered" playing the five, with his big defensive problem being his inability to play the pick and roll with any semblance of consistency. Sure, he's a natural 4 but he's perfectly capable of sidling into the five spot for 5 minute stretches as Demarcus rests.

 

[TonyTouch21]

Wow! Phil Jackson wants TWO of our PFs (Thompson and Landry) for JR Smith? Interesting. Let's see if anything comes to fruition.

 

[Tetsujin]

Wow! Phil Jackson wants TWO of our PFs (Thompson and Landry) for JR Smith? Interesting. Let's see if anything comes to fruition.

Phil Jackson apparently eager to recreate our front court of three years ago.

 

[Kingster]

Wow! Phil Jackson wants TWO of our PFs (Thompson and Landry) for JR Smith? Interesting. Let's see if anything comes to fruition.

Now that would change the culture, wouldn't it?

 

[Big Cuz 15]

not sure why they are so eager to get rid of him except clean house of everybody from the previous regime excluding cousins

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Now that would change the culture, wouldn't it?

culture = making playoffs at all costs even if it means short team success with no long term sustainability. they did the same w/ lebron before he bolted to miami.

 

[Shaqfuey]

not sure why they are so eager to get rid of him except clean house of everybody from the previous regime excluding cousins

Because he is a loser - plain and simple. The stench of losing will never come off of him as long as he remains in Sacramento. Also, JT is the biggest whiner in the league, complaining on virtually every foul that he commits (and, yes, he does commit them). He is uncoordinated and seems to lose his balance at least a half dozen times a game, puts up too many bad shots, misses defensive help assignments, hasn't improved any facet of his game since entering the league, and spends more time moping/complaining than he does hustling. That's why he should be gone.

 

[Tetsujin]

Because he is a loser - plain and simple. The stench of losing will never come off of him as long as he remains in Sacramento. Also, JT is the biggest whiner in the league, complaining on virtually every foul that he commits (and, yes, he does commit them). He is uncoordinated and seems to lose his balance at least a half dozen times a game, puts up too many bad shots, misses defensive help assignments, hasn't improved any facet of his game since entering the league, and spends more time moping/complaining than he does hustling. That's why he should be gone.

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So I take it you're not a fan?

 

[Spike]

Because he is a loser - plain and simple. The stench of losing will never come off of him as long as he remains in Sacramento. Also, JT is the biggest whiner in the league, complaining on virtually every foul that he commits (and, yes, he does commit them). He is uncoordinated and seems to lose his balance at least a half dozen times a game, puts up too many bad shots, misses defensive help assignments, hasn't improved any facet of his game since entering the league, and spends more time moping/complaining than he does hustling. That's why he should be gone.

I see JT differently. But that's ok.

 

[SacKings384]

Not a chance we'd be able to move Landry even if we were giving him away for nothing in return. Contract too big. I think JT has talent and could do well in a good system. He'd be great on a team like the Cavs or Spurs. The Cavs could use a big man too. Unfortunately they don't really have anything to give us in return (that they'd be willing to part with that is). Every year I think it's going to be the year he plays well, and each year I'm let down. We'll see this year. Maybe that will change!