If Webber is released...
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sloter said:
The Sixers aren't going to release him. Why should they? They aren't unhappy with him. They're going to be paying his salary anyway. He's still capable of putting up something close to 20/10/5. They were planning on paying whatever luxury tax they had to. The CBA change is a god-send for teams who have players like Houston with large salaries and virtually no productivity. As much as some of you cannot seem to accept it, Webber does NOT fit that description.
love_them_kings
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I still wish that trade had never happened. I think the playoffs would have gone differently if we still had Webb. But, it's done. Part of what was so special about Webb was how much he loved this team, and the passion he played with. Somehow I don't think that could be recaptured by bringing him back under those circumstances. Whatever magic Webb had with this team ended with the trade, and as much as I miss how special that team was, bringing Webb back now wouldn't help.
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Fillmoe
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i got a better idea why dont we trade corliss, skinner, thomas for webber and barnes? 
iheartBrad
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To answer the original question do you really think Webber would be released? I don't
Bricklayer
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sidney said:
Its only a one year deal -- so its now or never for Philly.
That said, Philly is not going to do that, and even if they did Webb is a man of tremendous pride and I sincerely doubt he would come back now. That ship has sailed. Nor would it really be a good thing for the Kings. It would be a frank admission that we screwed up and the rest of these guys needed Webb's presence and leadership. While that might well be the case, you just can't go back like that without severely damaging the rest of the squad's ability to go forward by itself. For better or worse now we have to go forward, not back to search for a safety blanket to clutch onto. Webb was likely the second greatest player to ever shrug on a Kings/Royals uniform (to Oscar Robertson), his number will be hanging from the rafters of whichever building the Kings are playing in one day, but that era is over and its time to move on.
captain bill
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KP said:
look, i love webber as much as anyone, but its done. its done with chris, with doug, with vlade. bringing them back goes against everything the team has been working towards- the future. aging stars are not the answer. we always have memories, now its time to look forward at what we can build towards. trying to go back to the good old days would ruin not only what we have now but the legacy of the sacramento kings. webber will still contribute in a big way here- what he did for this team allows us to be a place where people actually want to come to play, not where they demand to be traded out of. would payton have said i want to come to sac a decade ago? (not that i want him, but you get the idea)
move on. its over.
Entity
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Yeah i have never hidden the fact that i liked Webber alot. I would love to have him back but, it is going backwards. Also can you think of any other PF in the league we could get that would be perfect to help a young PF that we get in the draft develop. I have heard many of you say the same about Vlade so why would Webber be so out of the question, at least Webber could still contribute and help out a young mind.
Anyway its not going to happen just had to take up for him.
Anyway its not going to happen just had to take up for him.
captain bill
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Entity said:
taking vlade back is on the assumption that he will come cheap, or maybe even work somewhere in the organization (in my opinion unlikely, as much as he is loyal to sac he likes la more and im sure the lakers will offer him a job, too) chris is different, as he can still contribute on the court and will come with a much bigger price tag than vlade. also, as good as chris is, and im really not knocking him i love the guy, he probably wouldn't be as good of a coach for young guys as vlade is. vlade is very unique and had a set of skills more centers don't have, including being a phenomenal passing center. webber is great at what he does, but doesn't possess quite the same unique qualities at pf as vlade at c.
KP
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I think you need to move on^. Please. For the record you don't have to start your posts with, "Hey I love Webber as much as the next guy, but..." We can decide for ourselves what your intentions are based on what you write. In my opinion you were in full on bash-mode, if I misunderstood you I'm sorry, but Webber is still better than anything we can trot out there at the 4. As far as what the future holds for this team I think it looks kinda bleak (and you may too, it's kinda hard to tell), but in any case I think we'll all find out soon enough whether this team can bounce back(with Peja and Mike leading it), or fall off the map... If we do, you can bet no one, not even Gary Payton(sad), is going to want to come here anytime soon.captain bill said:
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KP said:
KP - I am, as you know, one of the most rabid Webber defenders around and I didn't have a problem with what captain bill said. I think you may have misunderstood.
It's the dawn of a new season. There's a lot for Kings fans to look forward to, starting with the draft tomorrow. That will be the first clue as to what direction Geoff Petrie is going to take this team. Rather than dwell on the past, let's look towards the future.
Bottom line is that Chris Webber did a lot for this franchise. He's no longer here. It is time for us to all move on - and get past the never-ending arguments about him.
BigWaxer said:
The Philadelphia 76ers are NOT going to waive Chris Webber. They would have to pay his salary anyway. He's still able to play; he can still contribute. (I'm repeating myself, I know, but I'm trying to make a point.) They already planned for paying the luxury tax - and because of the new CBA with the increased salary cap the luxury tax will actually decrease. Mo Cheeks, the new coach of the Sixers, is a smart man. He will find a way to better utilize Webber and his talents.
I cannot believe people are actually buying into the basic premise of this ridiculous thread.
loopymitch
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The chances of Philly waiving him now his major problem(O'Brien) is gone are probably close to zero. The rest of my comments I'll keep to myself or I'll go on for hours.
::walks away, shaking head::
::walks away, shaking head::
VF21 said:
The basic premise was that if Webber was released(possible now, if not probable) would we as fans want him back at a reduced rate? What is wrong with discussing that? We all have different opinions, and your opinion is not the only correct one.
I still say bring him back if at all possible. It is no way admitting that the Kings made a mistake. He would easily be the Kings starter at power forward. And I also do not understand the "It's going backward" argument. I thought moving forward means getting more wins and advancing in the playoffs. Having Webber would certainly aid in both. Or the Kings could go into next season with Kenny Thomas at the 4.
Moreover, without Webber the Princeton offense is D-U-N, done. Instituting a whole new offense is not exactly going forward either, especially considering that the alleged core has been acquired as role players for the offense. W/out Vlade or Chris there is no triple threat high post presence. Miller does not fit that bill. Without Webber someone else from the "core" must be moved, and I could not care less if the prima donna Peja dislikes Webber. Too bad.
Edit: Sorry, meant Kenny not Kurt. Darn Suns-Knicks trade on the brain.
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The basic premise is that the Philadelphia 76ers are going to release Chris Webber, yet no one has actually come up with anything to justify WHY they would do so... I didn't say my opinion was the only correct one. If you would like to argue with me personally, please take it to PMs.
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Back to the thread at hand - Aside from the original premise, you would also have to assume that Webber would want to return to Sacramento. I cannot think of any scenario under which that would be his best choice IF the 76ers released him.
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Back to the thread at hand - Aside from the original premise, you would also have to assume that Webber would want to return to Sacramento. I cannot think of any scenario under which that would be his best choice IF the 76ers released him.
AleksandarN
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Venom said:
I can see Webber coming back to us plaus. He would not fit in and does not help out our weaknesses and with is athleticsm and defense. Petrie and Maloofs already said that we must improve defensively and having Webber would not help it. Yes Webber would help out our offensive do not get me wrong but as for defense he would be another starter who would be a defensive liability
