If we had to make a trade...

Gtronic

Gtronic

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First let me say i'm a big bjax fan, i wouldn't want to trade him for anybody. but lets be honest, he WANTS out of his contract at the end of the year , and we don't have the money to resign him.

so i figure we can trade him for a vet PG that could give mike 15-18 mins rest, and a vet (rebounding) SF that could give Peja the same. That would give us Tag, Son, and a vet SF for the front court, and a vet PG along with barnes??? in the back court. but then again come playoff time we all know the rotation will be cut to 7 or 8. maybe i just answered my own question, keep bobby and use bobby, tag and sun come playoff time. i have no idea, if only we had a backup for Peja.


any ideas?
 
monk

monk

G-League
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If Jackson is traded, he'd have to be bundled with a larger contract in order to get a decent player in return. It would be Jackson/Christie most likely. With that said, I doubt it would happen.
 
Heuge

Heuge

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Gtronic said:
i know, that is why i typed WANTSi figured somebody would respond saying it's the team's option
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You said we dont have the money to sign him at the end of the year. We dont have to come up with money to resign him. That is why I reminded you of that.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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We wouldn't trade him this year unless it was either a great deal, or the wheels come off.

Trading him in the offseason is entirely possible if we decide we won't be able to keep him after next season. I would go so far as to say likely if we end up rebuilding this summer.
But that will all play out in June/July/August, not now.
 
ReinadelosReys

ReinadelosReys

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(Heard this nugget this morning on the radio)

The Kings miss their big three, Peja, Webb and Bibby--or anyone else on the roster for that matter, they win (approx.) 75% of their games. There is only one player on the Kings roster where in his absence, the Kings are essentially a .500 team. Anyone care to take a guess who that player might be?
 
piksi

piksi

Hall of Famer
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ReinadelosReys said:
(Heard this nugget this morning on the radio)

The Kings miss their big three, Peja, Webb and Bibby--or anyone else on the roster for that matter, they win (approx.) 75% of their games. There is only one player on the Kings roster where in his absence, the Kings are essentially a .500 team. Anyone care to take a guess who that player might be?
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Bobby Jackson - easy one
 
Entity

Entity

Hall of Famer
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yes it would be senseless to trade bobby in this season even if he sruggled the rest of the year. This offseason is a whole new ball game. The term sign and trade comes to mind. We could sign bobby for anything we needed to in order to get the player we wanted (provided its not over 8 mil a year). Bobby is a solid 6-7 mil a year player. So we could sign him for that and trade him to a team that needs a point for say an atletic PF/C to back up Brad and Chris because Miller has forgotten how to rebound.
 
SacTownKid

SacTownKid

Hall of Famer
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I would have to agree with the sign and trade being the most likely option if a trade happens. Same goes for Peja. I doubt the Kings will let either one go though. I expect Bobby to sign a fat deal with the Kings, unless things drastically change. We should definitely see by this summer. If the Kings just pick up his option I would be surprised, I think he'll sign a nice extension.

BTW who said he wants out of Sacremento? Bobby said he wanted to stay here.
 
Gtronic

Gtronic

Bench
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cool, thanks everybody for the input....even the clown how reminded me twice that bobby's contract isn't up at the end of the year.

i kid, i kid
 
SacKings384

SacKings384

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SacTownKid said:
BTW who said he wants out of Sacremento? Bobby said he wanted to stay here.
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He said he would love to stay here, but wants more money... Can't really blame him, the guy is making very little money... He just wants to be paid for what he is worth. If the Kings aren't going to pay him, he wants them to not pick up his option, so he can go get the money...
 
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AriesMar27

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SacTownKid said:
I would have to agree with the sign and trade being the most likely option if a trade happens. Same goes for Peja. I doubt the Kings will let either one go though. I expect Bobby to sign a fat deal with the Kings, unless things drastically change. We should definitely see by this summer. If the Kings just pick up his option I would be surprised, I think he'll sign a nice extension.

BTW who said he wants out of Sacremento? Bobby said he wanted to stay here.
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i'm sure mavs fans thought the same thing last summer.....
 
Heuge

Heuge

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Gtronic said:
First let me say i'm a big bjax fan, i wouldn't want to trade him for anybody. but lets be honest, he WANTS out of his contract at the end of the year , and we don't have the money to resign him.
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If this makes me a "clown (even in jest)" for not knowing that you already knew about the team option, then that is ridiculous.
 
SacTownKid

SacTownKid

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AriesMar27 said:
i'm sure mavs fans thought the same thing last summer.....
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No offense to Bobby but he's no Steve Nash, at least as far as monetary value is concerned. Nash got paid. Bobby will get paid but no where near the amount Nash did. I dont see a shortage of PG's so I dont forsee any Dampier caliber deals for Bobby.

Bobby will get paid don't worry.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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SacTownKid said:
No offense to Bobby but he's no Steve Nash, at least as far as monetary value is concerned. Nash got paid. Bobby will get paid but no where near the amount Nash did. I dont see a shortage of PG's so I dont forsee any Dampier caliber deals for Bobby.

Bobby will get paid don't worry.
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Actually I see quite the market for Bobby at the moment, but I do think there's a bit of a gap between the teams which would have the most use for him, and the teams that could actually pay him big money (the full big exception is a given, just depends on who has room how much higher he'll go) . His greatest value is as a super-tough experienced PG for a playoff contender -- team's like Miami, the Lakers etc. would LOVE to have him. But who can actually clear the room to sign him is less clear.
 
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Rowdyone

Bench
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If we're talking trades try this one. Peja and Bibby to Boston for Pierce, Jefferson, Banks and Welsh. Pierce scores the same as Peja but is more athletic, rebounds, plays better defense and a genuine "go to" guy at crunch time (allowing Webber to benefit from single coverage). Banks is a young, talented player with promise as is Jefferson. Welsh is there to make the trade work and give overall veteran team depth. We lose Bibby's playmaking but gain Bobby's scoring punch, etc. and pay for the whole thing with Bibby's money. Boston does it to give them a younger point guard and allow Payton to extend his career by playing off the ball at SG. Peja brings the points they lose with Pierce plus he's "the great white hope" in a town that loves white athletes and would thrive in the smaller SF Eastern Division. Two All Star caliber players for one and some future talent. Anybody game?
 
LPKingsFan

LPKingsFan

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Obviously I would wait until the summer for this:

Ship Bobby and Doug to Memphis for Watson, Posey, and Battier. It's a simple solution to both teams' problems: Kings get more depth, Memphis consolodates theirs and gets some veteran leadership in the wake of Brown's departure. They should be looking for more time for Gasol and Wells anyway.

The intangibles part would be what the Kings would miss, however, and this is no sure thing from either side.
 
nAj jAn™

nAj jAn™

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I've been thinking this since Pedja wants out:

Pedja and Bobby for Mike Miller, Swift, Battier and Watson. Then waive O-tag.

Miller will be the starting SF. Battier for backup SF, Watson for backup PG and Swift for backup C. And he is way too much upgrade for Ostertag.
 
piksi

piksi

Hall of Famer
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nAj jAn™ said:
I've been thinking this since Pedja wants out:

Pedja and Bobby for Mike Miller, Swift, Battier and Watson. Then waive O-tag.

Miller will be the starting SF. Battier for backup SF, Watson for backup PG and Swift for backup C. And he is way too much upgrade for Ostertag.
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keflanag

keflanag

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Am I the only one who thinks Bobby will not make that great of a starting PG in this league? He is a great (if not the best) sixth man. He comes in to provide a spark off the bench. He comes in to take over a game. But let's face it, Bobby doesn't run an offense. Bobby takes shots. That's what we pay him to do. He comes in and plays with hustle and energy, and part of his success is that he is playing against the other teams second unit. But as a pure PG, starting for a team where he needs to distribute the ball and get the rest of his team involved I just don't see him being as effective.
 
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Superman

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He did okay two seasons ago when Mike missed the start of the season, but he doesn't run a team. He's not a pure point guard, but so few are anymore. He's certainly an upgrade to about half the starting point guards in the NBA.

Lakers, Hawks, Celtics, Bobcats, Warriors, Rockets, Pacers, Magic, and Blazers would certainly rather have Bobby than their starting point guard, even if he is about to be 32.
 
keflanag

keflanag

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nAj jAn™ said:
I've been thinking this since Pedja wants out:

Pedja and Bobby for Mike Miller, Swift, Battier and Watson. Then waive O-tag.

Miller will be the starting SF. Battier for backup SF, Watson for backup PG and Swift for backup C. And he is way too much upgrade for Ostertag.
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Yes ... let's trade for the entire crappy Memphis team that can't seem to beat the Kings.
 
RageMe11

RageMe11

G-League
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Rowdyone said:
If we're talking trades try this one. Peja and Bibby to Boston for Pierce, Jefferson, Banks and Welsh. Pierce scores the same as Peja but is more athletic, rebounds, plays better defense and a genuine "go to" guy at crunch time (allowing Webber to benefit from single coverage). Banks is a young, talented player with promise as is Jefferson. Welsh is there to make the trade work and give overall veteran team depth. We lose Bibby's playmaking but gain Bobby's scoring punch, etc. and pay for the whole thing with Bibby's money. Boston does it to give them a younger point guard and allow Payton to extend his career by playing off the ball at SG. Peja brings the points they lose with Pierce plus he's "the great white hope" in a town that loves white athletes and would thrive in the smaller SF Eastern Division. Two All Star caliber players for one and some future talent. Anybody game?
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WHAT???
 
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Rowdyone

Bench
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In our offense we don't need a pure point guard, the offense runs through the high post. That's why Bibby doesn't get the assists other PG's do and half the time DC brings the ball up to pass into the post. This is why I earlier advocated trading Bibby, not Bobby. If anyone can bring the ball up and initiate the offense then we could use a PG that scores (Bobby) or plays better D than Bibby (Bobby) or both, Bobby! What this team needs (besides rebounding, defense, shot blocking & athleticism) is a scorer among shooters. Pierce is a scorer that gets to the line more than most everyone else and would command a doubleteam at crunchtime leaving our shooters open.
 
RageMe11

RageMe11

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So you think webber and pierce would be able to play together...no problem, pierce couldn't play with someone like walker, why do you think everything will just mesh with webber? it just wouldn't work. I mean you argue your points good, but come on man, no way would i trade two of our best players for one ball hog and a bunch of guys that might or might not progress at all...Peja and bibby are still young...why do you need players that are a little younger and dont have as much experience.
 
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Rowdyone

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The old adage of "you've got to give something to get something" applies here. No doubt it would be a gutsy move but even though Peja and Bibby are still young I don't see their games progressing much beyond where they are now do you? Bibby is a good PG and runs the offense well for the most part but consistantly gives up as many or more points than he puts up. Peja....soft, almost one dimensional in his game, vertically challenged, unwilling to give as well as he gets, frustrating in his disappearances at times. Both are known quantities without much more upside. Jefferson (CWebb's eventual successor?) improves daily. Banks was coveted by the Lakers and almost wound up there. And I think you'd be surprised by CWebbs response to having a Pierce on the team. He subbrogated his game to mesh with Vlade and I believe he'd do so again if it meant a better chance for the team to win.
 
LPKingsFan

LPKingsFan

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nAj jAn™ said:
I've been thinking this since Pedja wants out:

Pedja and Bobby for Mike Miller, Swift, Battier and Watson. Then waive O-tag.

Miller will be the starting SF. Battier for backup SF, Watson for backup PG and Swift for backup C. And he is way too much upgrade for Ostertag.
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I really think that the Peja trade winds have passed.
 
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