If we don't get a top 2 pick, your pick would be...?

rainmaker

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Who do you want if Irving/Williams aren't available? Obviously those two are going top two, unless something unforseen happens. If we pick 3-6, who's on your wish list?

Right now I'm set on Kanter or Knight. Either would make me happy, and while both would help as rookies, they both also have major upside.

1.Knight
2.Kanter
 
If were picking 3rd, then either Knight or Kanter. But if were picking 5th, or even later, god forbid, and both those guys are gone, then I'd be inclined to take Hamilton or Leonard. I'm sure Petrie will be considering some of the international players as well. But I can't really comment on them.
 
bajaden said:
If were picking 3rd, then either Knight or Kanter. But if were picking 5th, or even later, god forbid, and both those guys are gone, then I'd be inclined to take Hamilton or Leonard. I'm sure Petrie will be considering some of the international players as well. But I can't really comment on them.
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Kanter or Knight all the way to the bank. Out of all the Euro's Vesley intrigues me the most. I really would like Kanter though, and if he could play the 4 (like he aluded to in a video MKF posted) then I would love this lineup:

Reke/Beno/Pooh(?)
Thornton/Garcia/Taylor(?)
FA SF/Donte/Omri
Dalembert/Kanter/D Block(?)
Cousins/Thompson/Whiteside

(?) are guys I am unsure about making the team next season. And this of course assumes we resign our Enders who happen to also be starters. Question, is Dally playing PF and DMC Center when we do our twin tower thing? Or the other way around? I imagine the important part is who will be guarding the opposing teams PF.
 
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I like Kanter a lot after the top two. I've liked him for a while .. even though I have only seen him play 1 full game, I've been getting good vibes from him for 3 years now... Not sure what it is, but I like him.

When you have a group of players who's talent level is almost identicle ( everyone from about the #3 pick to the #10 pick are pretty close talent-wise ) I think you have to start taking need into consideration.

I like our 4 guard core of Udrih/Evans/Garcia/Thornton alot. More than the big man rotation because I find a lot more question marks there. Im not as confident Dally will resign as I am Thornton .. JT is still a questionmark ( how consistent will he be? ) DMC hasnt been able to stay out of foul trouble .. I just think Kanter will be more valuable to us then another guard. If we draft Knight or Walker .. when will they play? Kanter wont get huge minutes right away, but we saw Dblock more than Pooh last year .. and that is the spot these guys would fill.
 
MassachusettsKingsFan said:
I like Kanter a lot after the top two. I've liked him for a while .. even though I have only seen him play 1 full game, I've been getting good vibes from him for 3 years now... Not sure what it is, but I like him.

When you have a group of players who's talent level is almost identicle ( everyone from about the #3 pick to the #10 pick are pretty close talent-wise ) I think you have to start taking need into consideration.

I like our 4 guard core of Udrih/Evans/Garcia/Thornton alot. More than the big man rotation because I find a lot more question marks there. Im not as confident Dally will resign as I am Thornton .. JT is still a questionmark ( how consistent will he be? ) DMC hasnt been able to stay out of foul trouble .. I just think Kanter will be more valuable to us then another guard. If we draft Knight or Walker .. when will they play? Kanter wont get huge minutes right away, but we saw Dblock more than Pooh last year .. and that is the spot these guys would fill.
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Well if we get Knight, I'm sending Thornton to the bench as our 6th man, which I think is his natural role. Until he becomes more comfortable with the league, I see Thornton giving us 30+ mins a night.

I agree with you on Kanter. Love the guy. I guess I'm more confident about Dally resigning, but I'd take Kanter either way. Plus we won't know on draft day if Dally is resigning for sure. Although who knows what Petrie and his agent will/have discussed. He's not just a big body, but is an extremely talented big body, who would pair well with Cousins down the road. He'd obviously be our 3rd or 4th big, and might pass JT at some point next year. But if we got Kanter, I could see he and Cousins starting together 2 years from now, with Dally being the 3rd big, which just give us an incredibly deep, and versatile frontline.
 
rainmaker said:
Well if we get Knight, I'm sending Thornton to the bench as our 6th man, which I think is his natural role. Until he becomes more comfortable with the league, I see Thornton giving us 30+ mins a night.

I agree with you on Kanter. Love the guy. I guess I'm more confident about Dally resigning, but I'd take Kanter either way. Plus we won't know on draft day if Dally is resigning for sure. Although who knows what Petrie and his agent will/have discussed. He's not just a big body, but is an extremely talented big body, who would pair well with Cousins down the road. He'd obviously be our 3rd or 4th big, and might pass JT at some point next year. But if we got Kanter, I could see he and Cousins starting together 2 years from now, with Dally being the 3rd big, which just give us an incredibly deep, and versatile frontline.
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I'm still confused as to why your so adament about Thornton coming off the bench. He was hands down our best scorer at the end of the year. In my humble opinion, he's the best player we could put next to Tyreke. He's better than Beno. He would be better than Knight, if we were to draft him. And I'm one of those that believe's in starting your best players. I'm not a believer in improviing your bench, by weakeniing your starting lineup.

However, I agree with you on Kanter. If for no other reason than we have no guarantee's that we'll resign Dalembert. So he would be insurance, if in fact, were unable to resign him. As for Thompson? I'm feeling pretty good about him now. I think the light finally went off in his head. If so, he's the perfect guy off the bench. He rebounds, and now seems to have figured out how to just take whats there, and no force it. We'll see next season. But I hope so. The Kings have a lot of time invested in him, so it would be nice to reap the benefits.
 
MANdry024 said:
(?) are guys I am unsure about making the team next season. And this of course assumes we resign our Enders who happen to also be starters. Question, is Dally playing PF and DMC Center when we do our twin tower thing? Or the other way around? I imagine the important part is who will be guarding the opposing teams PF.
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With Dally and Cousins, it depends on the matchups, and at times foul trouble. For instance, if were playing Utah, and they have Jefferson and Milsap on the floor at the same time, then its more likely that Dally might start out guarding Jefferson. But if Cousins gets a quick foul or two trying to guard the quicker Milsap, then they would probably switch assignments. Lets face it, your going to get caught in switches from time to time anyway. In essence, we really just have two big guys out there, and the game situation is going to dictate who guards who.
 
rainmaker said:
You'd pick him as high as 3?
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I would probably do a trade if he wasn't projected that high, but I got a feeling he will be about #6-9 or so when draft day is here. He's that good of a shooter. Not to mention he's exactly what we need at SF.

Here are the guys I followed the most in college, and hyped on this board dating back to 2005-2006.. Most of them so far has turned out pretty well.

2006 - Shelden Williams
2007 - Joakim Noah
2008 - Kevin Love
2009 - Jrue Holiday
2010 - DeMarcus Cousins
2011 - Jordan Hamilton

Usually pick a guy at the start of the year that I really like, and follow their year more so than most others. Try to catch all their games.. Loved Hamilton's game though. Sweet looking shot, and a quick release.
 
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Have to agree with the concensus - either Knight or Kanter. I'd be ecstatic with either to be honest.

Gary just reminded me of Holiday, some people loved him when he was at UCLA. I wasn't a fan of him because he really didn't show much. Collison stifled his talent was the argument. And Holiday has turned out to be a pretty good player, certainly better than I'd expected. When I look at Knight, I don't see one thing that Holiday does better except for possibly passing the ball. I think Knight has more upside than people think and while he may not be a superstar, he could be a very, very good player.
 
Dime Dropper said:
Have to agree with the concensus - either Knight or Kanter. I'd be ecstatic with either to be honest.

Gary just reminded me of Holiday, some people loved him when he was at UCLA. I wasn't a fan of him because he really didn't show much. Collison stifled his talent was the argument. And Holiday has turned out to be a pretty good player, certainly better than I'd expected. When I look at Knight, I don't see one thing that Holiday does better except for possibly passing the ball. I think Knight has more upside than people think and while he may not be a superstar, he could be a very, very good player.
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I think Knight would be a good fit for the team. He could be a combo guard, which in our type of offense works better. I do think Petrie is attracted to that type of guard. Knight could be everything that Petrie wanted Douby to be. The biggest hole in Douby's game was his basketball IQ. He just didn't know how to apply his skills properly to the position he was being asked to play. He always looked to me as though he was thinking about what to do next. Knight on the other hand has far more skill than Douby and has very good basketball IQ.

That said, I'm still fascinated by Kanter and the skills he would bring. Good big men are very hard to find. Bad one's are a dime a dozen. I find them working in 7/11's all the time.
 
bajaden said:
I think Knight would be a good fit for the team. He could be a combo guard, which in our type of offense works better. I do think Petrie is attracted to that type of guard. Knight could be everything that Petrie wanted Douby to be. The biggest hole in Douby's game was his basketball IQ. He just didn't know how to apply his skills properly to the position he was being asked to play. He always looked to me as though he was thinking about what to do next. Knight on the other hand has far more skill than Douby and has very good basketball IQ.

That said, I'm still fascinated by Kanter and the skills he would bring. Good big men are very hard to find. Bad one's are a dime a dozen. I find them working in 7/11's all the time.
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Speaking of Q Douby. He's hearing chants of MVP with 35 pt playoff average on his team from most remote part of China. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/sports/basketball/27chinahoops.html
 
Shorty said:
knight or trade for rubio, if we get assurances he is coming to the nba next year.
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Rubio? That would be a horrible fit next to Reke, absolutely horrid. I will ask you to state your case, and give you a chance to elaborate, before tearing your suggestion to shreads.

Yes there are pg's I'd put next to Reke, but there are more I wouldn't, and Rubio tops that list.
 
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Spike said:
Cause he's killin' it overseas. Killin' it.
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I'm curious Spike. What is your definition of killing it? This last season was worse than his previous season, which stat wise was nothing to write home about. And I realize that international ball is different, but I don't think he was killing it. And I'm assuming you meant that sarcasticly.

This season he averaged 22.7 minutes a game. 6.5 points per game. He shot 26.7% overall from the field, and shot 22.4% from behind the 3 pt line. He averaged 3.5 assists per game. Now those stats may look dazzling in international ball, but in the NBA they would really suck.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
On the other hand, Jennings' .379 career shooting percentage suggests he's not exactly killing it in the NBA, either.
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Nah this year was definitly a bad year for him. I think a lot has to do with Salmons pretty much giving up on the team, and sucking, but Jennings has played a LOT better in the NBA than he did in Europe.

But we can't really judge how Rubio will play in the NBA based on how he's doing in Europe is what I am trying to say..
 
bajaden said:
I'm curious Spike. What is your definition of killing it? This last season was worse than his previous season, which stat wise was nothing to write home about. And I realize that international ball is different, but I don't think he was killing it. And I'm assuming you meant that sarcasticly.

This season he averaged 22.7 minutes a game. 6.5 points per game. He shot 26.7% overall from the field, and shot 22.4% from behind the 3 pt line. He averaged 3.5 assists per game. Now those stats may look dazzling in international ball, but in the NBA they would really suck.
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Spike was definitely being sarcastic. And I can confirm that those numbers definitely DO NOT look dazzling in international ball. I still think Rubio can be a good player in the NBA because he has a lot of talent, but it is disappointing that his FG % has gotten worse.

I still don't get why some want him here when they obviously haven't seen him play. Just when you thought those discussions were over.
 
Shorty said:
knight or trade for rubio, if we get assurances he is coming to the nba next year.
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Wait, what, you didn't just say garbage player Rubios name, oh my, have you seen that kid play, he's bad. Never ever trade for Rubio.
 
Kanter

I go with Enes Kanter if he's available. He's too big and skilled to pass up. He could really help spread the floor for Tyreke and Co. but it's clear that his offensive game is already quite polished. I wouldn't be surprised if, like Cousins, Kanter was ready to start sometime next season. The front court would be solidifed for a long, long time and the three headed beast of Cousins, Kanter, and Thompson should suffice with Whiteside waiting in the wings.

Although Kanter is another PF/C and does not necessarily address a position of need, the Kings could consider moving other pieces around to land their strating SF, be it Gay, Iguodala, or someone else. I would then consider trading Casspi and Dalembert (after he's re-signed) for Rudy Gay. His profile is outstanding: 24 years old, 6'9", 7'3" wingspan, 9'0" standing reach, 40" max vertical, 40% from 3, and nearly 2 steals and 1 block a game.

Thornton/Udrih
Evans/Garcia
Gay/Greene
Kanter/Thompson
Cousins/Whiteside

The Kings manage to get younger but become one of the most potent offenses in the league.
 
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