Howard to the Lakers

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From ESPN.com:

A source with direct knowledge of the talks told ESPN.com's Marc Stein the Lakers will receive Howard, the Denver Nuggets will acquire Andre Iguodala, the 76ers will receive Andrew Bynum and Jason Richardson, and the Magic will get Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, Nikola Vucevic and one protected future first-round pick from each of the other three teams. In addition, the Magic will be getting other pieces, including 76ers No. 1 draft pick Moe Harkless, a source told Stein.

Reason #5,485 why I hate the freaking Lakers. In essence, they just traded Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard. !@*@#^(#@?~?!?!
 
Much like death and taxes, you can always count on the Lakers being gift wrapped a superstar, or 2, whenever their window has shut. What the F was ORL thinking. What an absolutely horrendousl trade for them. The most laughable part was the protected picks they got back. How are you going to give up Howard and get protected picks from 3 very good teams? !
 
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Reason #5,485 why I hate the freaking Lakers. In essence, they just traded Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard. !@*@#^(#@?~?!?!



i don't get it. Why wouldn't Orlando do the Houston or Nets deals? Tons of youth, draft picks and salary cap relief. Now they get a bunch of late first round picks an average 2 guard and a past his prime strech 4.
 
This is ****ing outRAGEOUS!

This is a MUCH more lopsided trade than the Chris Paul one the NBA nixed. 4 teams contributing to the Lakers getting rid of Bynum's albatross contract and getting Dwight freaking Howard out of the deal is a complete and utter joke.
This was highway robbery.
Dwight put the Magic over a barrel and just dictated that some huge city was going to take advantage of his need to front-run to get a championship.

This destabilizes the NBA even MORE than it is now, and drives home the reality that the big cities will always just take the best players in the NBA fro the teams that drafted them.

I hope the NBA leadership is happy now, because they've just put a stake in the heart of any semblance of parity in the league.
The only thing stopping the Lakers from the NBA Finals is Kobe finally getting his long-deserved season-ending injury at some point this season.
 
What a ****ing joke. Get ready for a Lakers-Heat Finals.....and I can't stand the Heat. Might be time to become an NHL fan or something.
 
I hate ORL!!! They didnt even get Bynum out of the deal. i just dont get it. If you have to get rid of your star player why on earth would you send him to the Lakers in exchange for nothing? It makes no sense at all. Something stinks here.
 
I hate Memphis!!! They didnt even get s*** out of the deal. i just dont get it. If you have to get rid of your star player why on earth would you send him to the Lakers in exchange for nothing? It makes no sense at all. Something stinks here.

Deja vu.
 
This is ****ing outRAGEOUS!

This is a MUCH more lopsided trade than the Chris Paul one the NBA nixed. 4 teams contributing to the Lakers getting rid of Bynum's albatross contract and getting Dwight freaking Howard out of the deal is a complete and utter joke.
This was highway robbery.

Bynum doesn't have an albatross contract. It's one year, a bit over $16M.

From the Lakers point of view, this isn't terribly lopsided at all. They trade away a top-5 center with one year on his contract for a top-1 center with one year on his contract who won't sign an extension but will instead hit free agency. And it sounds like they throw in a future pick on top of that, though the final tally doesn't seem to be certain yet.

If anybody's getting the good side of this trade, it's the Nuggets. Harrington and Afflalo (and presumably a future first) for Iguodala is pretty darn nice, even if Denver is kind of full at the wing. And if anybody's getting the bad end of this deal, it's Orlando, who should have just gone straight up for Bynum and a pick and been done with it. Instead they're grabbing a bunch of scraps and hoping something pays off down the road.
 
Well the Lakers managed to rent one more year of relevance and publicly emasculate Bynum for having no heart. I am not sure this helps LA in the long run as their biggest enemy now is father time and having the space to sign another max contract for Howard is doubtful, but hey they are the Lakers the gods will smile upon them again next off season. On a side note I like the fact that Cousins will now get 4 shots a Howard this season, it will be good for his development.
 
Bynum doesn't have an albatross contract. It's one year, a bit over $16M.

From the Lakers point of view, this isn't terribly lopsided at all. They trade away a top-5 center with one year on his contract for a top-1 center with one year on his contract who won't sign an extension but will instead hit free agency. And it sounds like they throw in a future pick on top of that, though the final tally doesn't seem to be certain yet.

If anybody's getting the good side of this trade, it's the Nuggets. Harrington and Afflalo (and presumably a future first) for Iguodala is pretty darn nice, even if Denver is kind of full at the wing. And if anybody's getting the bad end of this deal, it's Orlando, who should have just gone straight up for Bynum and a pick and been done with it. Instead they're grabbing a bunch of scraps and hoping something pays off down the road.

That's what I don't get. They could have traded him to Houston for Martin (ender) a bunch of young guys and draft picks and made them take Hedo too.
 
getting lost in all of this is the creativity of mitch kupchek and his staff, they were not discouraged by failed talks, they worked hard to make this a steal for the lakers, forget orlando what was denver thinking in helping the lakers get D12, they just took them to 7 games last year.
 
Hey, in this case at least the Lakers sent out something of major value in Bynum. He just didn't go to Orlando.

it also states they sent out a protected 1st round pick, but i thought they sent out the 2013 and 2015 pick to the suns in the nash trade. do they own another pick from another trade or are the magic dumb enough to take a 2017 1st round pick from the lakers as part of this deal?
 
LA starting line up is Nash, Bryant, Artest, Gasol and Howard. Compare that to IT/Brooks, Tyreke, JJ, JT and DMC. Advantage Lakers except at Center.

Beat LA!

KB
 
it also states they sent out a protected 1st round pick, but i thought they sent out the 2013 and 2015 pick to the suns in the nash trade. do they own another pick from another trade or are the magic dumb enough to take a 2017 1st round pick from the lakers as part of this deal?

Frankly I'd rather have the 2017 one. The 2013 one will be worth nothing and if Howard resigns the 2015 one won't be so hot either (even though Gasol will be gone). But by 2017, Kobe will be ancient and Howard will be doing it on his own if he's even there. Eventually, someday, I do believe that the luxury tax framework is going to come back and bite the Lakers and they'll hit a five-year skid. 2017 is about right for the start of it.
 
LA starting line up is Nash, Bryant, Artest, Gasol and Howard. Compare that to IT/Brooks, Tyreke, JJ, JT and DMC. Advantage Lakers except at Center.

Beat LA!

KB

i like cousins as much as any kings fan, but at this point in time, d12 is arguably the top center in the league and cousins didnt even make the all star team. now potentially cousins can become a better center but he's not there yet. so advantage lakers period
 
Frankly I'd rather have the 2017 one. The 2013 one will be worth nothing and if Howard resigns the 2015 one won't be so hot either (even though Gasol will be gone). But by 2017, Kobe will be ancient and Howard will be doing it on his own if he's even there. Eventually, someday, I do believe that the luxury tax framework is going to come back and bite the Lakers and they'll hit a five-year skid. 2017 is about right for the start of it.

but by 2017, you might not have a job as the gm of the magic anymore after the lakers win the championship, and every team in the trade get better and you are fighting charlotte and washington to stay out of the bottom of the southeast conference
 
I thought Philly did pretty well considering they were looking to move Iguodala.

well it depends if bynum resigns. if not, they gave up iggy (even though they wanted to move him), vucevic, harkless, and a future first for an overpaid jrich and a possible 1 year rental in bynum. by no way are they the loser of the trade. at worse they get capspace if bynum bolts. magic by far are the losers. they lose d12 and get mid talent players, mid to late picks, and no enders. yet from what i read on a magic forum, their delusional fans think they got a fair deal. smh
 
Once the Nets stopped becoming an option, he was inevitably going to the Lakers, because that's really the only other place that would come close to meeting his criteria.
 
Here's what i said in another thread over a month ago

he'll end up on the Lakers. Of course Orlando will prefer their offer of a couple of second round picks over Houstons offer of a whole roster

.... funny.
 
It is an NBA tradition that the Lakers have the best center of any given era. There is something about this trend that stinks yet nothing could be proven that the NBA assists this kind of thing in any way. Mikan was a Laker and he was the first real center. Then they get Jabbar, Chamberlain, Shaq, Pau, Howard, and I am sure I have missed some. The best inevitably ends up with the Lakers. Perhaps 10 years from now they will have Boogie. Maybe it's just that they can afford it but so can other cities.

Several conspiracy theories have floated about and this is the only one I can get behind.
 
for a minute I was worried that the Lakers might be able to do a Heat-like signing of both Chris Paul and Dwight Howard next offseason. thankfully, Kobe's ridiculous contract and Pau's also rather massive contract prevent that. slightly ot, but: if Paul and Howard do still intend to hook up somewhere and looking at the NBA landscape, which team is most likely to land both of them? Houston? Portland?

as for the the trade: first reaction was a wholehearted BLERGH. however, if the Lakers don't win, which I don't think they will, they just got rid of a really good player for a one year rental and just about the best chip they had going forward. so this could screw them over massively in the long term. Denver and Philly make out like bandits and Orlando, I don't get at all. seriously, every single trade proposed this offseason was way better for them. why would they do this one?
 
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