How about a trade with Memphis:

[bajaden]

After watching the playoff games between the Spurs and the Grizz, it was apparent that the Grizzley's needed outside shooting. So I decided to look at their roster and see if anything appealed to me. The only two names that were reasonable were Ed Davis, and Austin Daye. Both their salaries together almost equally match Thorntons. Neither of them played significant minutes this year, especially Daye, who at 6'10" is tall for the SF position. Davis averaged around 14 minutes a game if memory serves, and averaged around 1.2 blocked shots in that time. Both are still young, and have, yes there's that word again, potential.

I don't know if Memphis would do it. They definitely need some three point shooters, but I know their high on Davis, so maybe not. If so, it could be a good trade for both teams. If the gods smiled on us, we might fill our hole at SF, and get a potential shotblocker to put next to Cousins.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I like Daye. I have the feeling that he can be turned into something useful. 2 of the last 3 years he has shot over .400 from three, and he's long, and he's probably starting to (or at least due to) fill out that skinny body. I'd definitely take a flyer on him if we can't get a more solid SF.

 

[LPKingsFan]

According to Sham, Daye is a restricted free agent this year, so that complicates getting him via trade.

I'd maybe do something along the lines of Thompson/Thornton for Davis/Prince, if my preferred use of the Thompson/Thornton package (Gortat and Dudley) isn't available.

 

[Glenn]

After watching the playoff games between the Spurs and the Grizz, it was apparent that the Grizzley's needed outside shooting. So I decided to look at their roster and see if anything appealed to me. The only two names that were reasonable were Ed Davis, and Austin Daye. Both their salaries together almost equally match Thorntons. Neither of them played significant minutes this year, especially Daye, who at 6'10" is tall for the SF position. Davis averaged around 14 minutes a game if memory serves, and averaged around 1.2 blocked shots in that time. Both are still young, and have, yes there's that word again, potential.

I don't know if Memphis would do it. They definitely need some three point shooters, but I know their high on Davis, so maybe not. If so, it could be a good trade for both teams. If the gods smiled on us, we might fill our hole at SF, and get a potential shotblocker to put next to Cousins.

At the same time?

 

[Bricklayer]

Hollins did not like Davis, or might just have been pissy about the trade.

Apparently Hollinger's computer is in love though, so might make it tougher than it first appears.

 

[funkykingston]

I would deal Thornton for Daye & Davis every day and twice on Sundays.

 

[Chupacabra]

In this trade I think we're more focused on getting Davis than Daye. I would think it would be harder to pry away Daye as Prince has high mileage and Daye has the shooting stroke they so desperately need. It's as if Daye is one Prince injury away from taking that starting spot. It would be nice to get day, but Davis is the ideal player for us. Perfect guy to put next to Cousins. He needs experience, but other than that he's a mobile shot blocker that doesn't need the ball to be effective. We're probably not going to be able to lure an already established shot blocker to come in and fill our starting power forward spot. It's guys like Ed Davis that we need to be looking at. Imagine the things that Malone could do with this team if you actually give him some defensive players to work with!

 

[joemama]

How about Jimmer for Battier.

Spolestra doesn't even play Battier.

 

[cuad]

I would take a chance on Daye, but I don't think Ed Davis is the right player for us because I don't think that he scares other players when he's in the paint.

Spolestra doesn't even play Battier.

That's because he sucks.

 

[ParniValjak]

Don't think Memphis does that. They want to cut salary and Davis is one guy they are high on. I would like to get this kid but it might not be possible.

How would people think about trading for John Henson? He is one guy that I liked last year as a fit next to Cousins. He is LONG and he is working on that mid range jumper so that he is not offensive liability. I get the feeling Bucks are not going to sign Jennings and might be in the market for a PG. how about IT for Henson?

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

I like Daye. Always have. Davis is obviously worth more, and I like him too.

One other note, though - If I had my way I'd keep Marcus Thornton and trade all of the other MT wannabes. I'm still a believer. If the plan is to move IT to the bench anyway, then I'd swing IT and Jimmer out for something. They'd bring you back something better anyway, considering they are still young / on rookie contracts. And Thornton isn't worth as much now as he should be. He is a better player than he showed last season. He could still be a massive weapon off the bench.

We need to gut the guard crew, though. Too many guys with similar skill sets there.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Don't think Memphis does that. They want to cut salary and Davis is one guy they are high on. I would like to get this kid but it might not be possible.

How would people think about trading for John Henson? He is one guy that I liked last year as a fit next to Cousins. He is LONG and he is working on that mid range jumper so that he is not offensive liability. I get the feeling Bucks are not going to sign Jennings and might be in the market for a PG. how about IT for Henson?

Don't get me started on John Henson I really loved the idea of putting him next to Cousins. I love the guy, but I think the Bucks do to.

The bucks are interesting though. They have Dalembert, Udoh, Henson, and Sanders. They obviously aren't dealing Sanders, but doesn't a guy like Patterson make sense on that team to even things out? You can't have all of the bigs in your rotation defense-first guys.

Henson could be expensive. I'd trade #7 for him if the Bucks would consider it.

 

[jalfa]

Don't get me started on John Henson I really loved the idea of putting him next to Cousins. I love the guy, but I think the Bucks do to.

The bucks are interesting though. They have Dalembert, Udoh, Henson, and Sanders. They obviously aren't dealing Sanders, but doesn't a guy like Patterson make sense on that team to even things out? You can't have all of the bigs in your rotation defense-first guys.

Henson could be expensive. I'd trade #7 for him if the Bucks would consider it.

I fully expect the Bucks to build around a frontcourt of Henson and Sanders for the long run, especially with the stuff he showed late in the season. they've got something there with these two and they know it, otherwise they probably wouldn't have been as quick to give up on Tobias Harris, whose performance after being traded might very well have taught them a lesson about giving up on talented young bigs.

 

[ParniValjak]

Don't get me started on John Henson I really loved the idea of putting him next to Cousins. I love the guy, but I think the Bucks do to.

The bucks are interesting though. They have Dalembert, Udoh, Henson, and Sanders. They obviously aren't dealing Sanders, but doesn't a guy like Patterson make sense on that team to even things out? You can't have all of the bigs in your rotation defense-first guys.

Henson could be expensive. I'd trade #7 for him if the Bucks would consider it.

I'd probably do pick 7 for Henson as well. We just need to get that guy somehow and it's cheaper to get them while they have not developed yet rather than developed players. Even as free agents they cost and arm and a leg to get them.

Bucks might be open to the idea of trading one of the big shot blockers. They are stacked with them. This season they had 4 of them and if they stay pat, they will have 3 as I can't see them re-signing Dalembert.

Heson would just be a good fit. I might even be interested in Udoh. We just need to get that guy and it won't be for cheap that's for sure.

 

[Darth Divac]

In this trade I think we're more focused on getting Davis than Daye. I would think it would be harder to pry away Daye as Prince has high mileage and Daye has the shooting stroke they so desperately need. It's as if Daye is one Prince injury away from taking that starting spot.

Daye will never start for the Grizz, for the simple reason of Quincy Pondexter.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I'd probably do pick 7 for Henson as well. We just need to get that guy somehow and it's cheaper to get them while they have not developed yet rather than developed players. Even as free agents they cost and arm and a leg to get them.

Bucks might be open to the idea of trading one of the big shot blockers. They are stacked with them. This season they had 4 of them and if they stay pat, they will have 3 as I can't see them re-signing Dalembert.

Heson would just be a good fit. I might even be interested in Udoh. We just need to get that guy and it won't be for cheap that's for sure.

Actually I could see Udoh being a target. I remember reading somewhere that he was someone Malone particularly liked or was interested in when he was on the Warriors.

 

[bajaden]

Daye will never start for the Grizz, for the simple reason of Quincy Pondexter.

Don't let a game or two in the playoff's affect your overall opinion of players.

 

[bajaden]

Actually I could see Udoh being a target. I remember reading somewhere that he was someone Malone particularly liked or was interested in when he was on the Warriors.

As a lot of folks know, I like Udoh. I still don't think he's gotten a legit chance. Going to the Bucks, a team with a thousand PF's was the worse thing that could have happened to him. I think Udoh, if given the role of just rebounding and defending the basket, would do quite well. If your expecting him to be the next coming of Karl Malone, then you'll be disappointed. Play him to his strengths, and you'll have a productive player.

 

[ESP47]

I like Davis but I don't see them giving him up. Daye is just not a very good player. I think we just have memories of him draining threes on us still fresh in our minds. The guy is basically Francisco Garcia without the defense. He couldn't even start over Kyle Singler in Detroit.

I don't like the way Thornton has played the last couple years, but even with these down years I've noticed one thing. Thornton gets up for big games. When good teams come to town, Thornton steps his game up and looks like the Thornton of old. Plus he's our closer. Who else is going to make those game winning shots? IT has been decent at it but you can't rely on Tyreke nor Cousins to make that shot when it counts. I think if we add a couple pieces to the puzzle and hover around .500, Thornton will look more like first year Thornton for us. The guy just needs something to play for. I wish he'd step up his game whether we're playing the Heat or the Suns but it just doesn't look that way.

 

[Darth Divac]

Don't let a game or two in the playoff's affect your overall opinion of players.

I don't, believe me. But while Daye may be longer, he lacks Pondexter's the athleticism and defense.

 

[bajaden]

I like Davis but I don't see them giving him up. Daye is just not a very good player. I think we just have memories of him draining threes on us still fresh in our minds. The guy is basically Francisco Garcia without the defense. He couldn't even start over Kyle Singler in Detroit.

I don't like the way Thornton has played the last couple years, but even with these down years I've noticed one thing. Thornton gets up for big games. When good teams come to town, Thornton steps his game up and looks like the Thornton of old. Plus he's our closer. Who else is going to make those game winning shots? IT has been decent at it but you can't rely on Tyreke nor Cousins to make that shot when it counts. I think if we add a couple pieces to the puzzle and hover around .500, Thornton will look more like first year Thornton for us. The guy just needs something to play for. I wish he'd step up his game whether we're playing the Heat or the Suns but it just doesn't look that way.

My opinion of Daye has nothing to do with him draining three's against us. My opinion comes from watching him play at Gonzaga. To be honest, my main target in this deal is Davis, but to make the salaries work, I added Daye. I still think he has potential. But only time will tell. As for Thornton rising to the occasion and hitting big shots. Thats all well and good, but personally I perfer consistency out of a player, and Thornton is extremely inconsistent. And although I believe he tries hard on defense, he's still a liability there. He's undersized for the SG position, and if your undersized for any position then you better be able to bring something to the table that compensates for it.

Now someone could point out that he shoots a decent average from the three. Around 36 to 37 percent I believe. The problem is, he arrives at that percentage by shooting 25% in one game and 55% in the next game. As a head coach, that just drives you nuts. I don't think you arrive at the conclusion that you won't trade a player because you have no one thats better. Thats a circling of the wagons mentality. I don't dislike Thornton. He is what he is. When he's hot, he can win games for you. But when he's cold, he can also lose games for you, because he brings nothing else to the table. Its not like he's a lock down defender, or a great rebounder or passer, and you can depend on him to do other things to warrant his time on the floor. In Thorntons case, he's either hitting shots, or he's just taking up space on the floor.