Harry Giles thread back on track ;)

[Kingsfan23]

Yes and Giles has the IQ of Bjelica to move the ball and get Bagley and WCS easy baskets around the rim.

Giles isn’t there yet but he absolutely needs 10-15 minutes a game to get comfortable and work his way there just like JJ has been doing.

He needs to be able to play that without “sabotaging” the team play. He wasn’t doing that earlier, hence his poor advanced stats. He looked more solid last game, hopefully the trend continues. But this is a team fighting for the playoffs, and you can’t be playing active minuses on the court, it’s imperative to earn your keep. Let’s see if Harry can build on last game to do it

 

[sactowndog]

He needs to be able to play that without “sabotaging” the team play. He wasn’t doing that earlier, hence his poor advanced stats. He looked more solid last game, hopefully the trend continues. But this is a team fighting for the playoffs, and you can’t be playing active minuses on the court, it’s imperative to earn your keep. Let’s see if Harry can build on last game to do it

He played well in Phoenix also before going on a lengthy stretch of DNP’s or 1-2 minutes of worthless scrub time.

 

[rosa u podne]

Yes and Giles has the IQ of Bjelica to move the ball and get Bagley and WCS easy baskets around the rim.

Giles isn’t there yet but he absolutely needs 10-15 minutes a game to get comfortable and work his way there just like JJ has been doing.

He is a good passer, he likes to pass and sees the floor on offense. However, he is too often lost on defense. This is the area he can learn from Bjelica. I hope he will and evantually, in a year or two, replace him as a starter.

 

[Kingsfan23]

He played well in Phoenix also before going on a lengthy stretch of DNP’s or 1-2 minutes of worthless scrub time.

Ok. Well, typically the team wins by 5 points or less. Very close games where one weak link is the difference. Team doesn’t have any momentum to spare, and is surprisingly competing for the playoffs rather than developing. So if Kosta is better moderately, it can be the difference between winning and losing. Let’s hope that Harry helps going forward

 

[sactowndog]

Ok. Well, typically the team wins by 5 points or less. Very close games where one weak link is the difference. Team doesn’t have any momentum to spare, and is surprisingly competing for the playoffs rather than developing. So if Kosta is better moderately, it can be the difference between winning and losing. Let’s hope that Harry helps going forward

I don’t see Harry taking Kosta’s spot. Bagley, WCS and KK all want to play around the basket. I see Giles as more of a perimeter shooter and passer.

 

[Pizzaguy93]

Giles does some very very dumb things in terms of fouls but damn Im just about ready to want him in there full time over Willie, no matter where we end up this season. He is so long, quick, and coordinated he can fill the stat sheet in every column quickly....plus how many other of our guys would go in in garbage time and drop the shoulder on Pat Beverley a couple times. The guy plays angry and physical....like a "big man" for our buddies across the bay. No fear

 

[sactowndog]

Giles does some very very dumb things in terms of fouls but damn Im just about ready to want him in there full time over Willie, no matter where we end up this season. He is so long, quick, and coordinated he can fill the stat sheet in every column quickly....plus how many other of our guys would go in in garbage time and drop the shoulder on Pat Beverley a couple times. The guy plays angry and physical....like a "big man" for our buddies across the bay. No fear

Given our problems guarding athletic fours: Kuzma and Herrell I would like to see more play time at the four. Yes he is over exuberant at times but we need more passion up front.

 

[SLAB]

Giles does some very very dumb things in terms of fouls but damn Im just about ready to want him in there full time over Willie, no matter where we end up this season. He is so long, quick, and coordinated he can fill the stat sheet in every column quickly....plus how many other of our guys would go in in garbage time and drop the shoulder on Pat Beverley a couple times. The guy plays angry and physical....like a "big man" for our buddies across the bay. No fear

Over Willie? Nah.

Over Koufos? A million times yes. A billion times yes.

 

[Kings_of_California]

5 fouls in 10 minutes the other night is ridiculous. .

There's no way I would play him over WCS. A foul rate that poor is a total negative no matter how you put it .

Fortunately, excessive fouling is a teachable issue. I hope it starts to get better soon because, as mentioned above, I would much prefer him over Koufos at this point.

 

[SLAB]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1078735915554467840

Back to Stockton. My dream of him replacing an obsolete and fading Kosta Koufos isn’t going to happen any time soon, is it?

 

[sactowndog]

5 fouls in 10 minutes the other night is ridiculous. .

There's no way I would play him over WCS. A foul rate that poor is a total negative no matter how you put it .

Fortunately, excessive fouling is a teachable issue. I hope it starts to get better soon because, as mentioned above, I would much prefer him over Koufos at this point.

Some of his fouling is being over aggressive. We need that fight on the front line and he will settle down with more reps.

 

[sactowndog]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1078735915554467840

Back to Stockton. My dream of him replacing an obsolete and fading Kosta Koufos isn’t going to happen any time soon, is it?

Good lord. So we are going to play JJ at the 4 instead. How many opposing 4’s have to torch us before DJ turns to Giles?

 

[SLAB]

Good lord. So we are going to play JJ at the 4 instead. How many opposing 4’s have to torch us before DJ turns to Giles?

Word... I thought he tested with superior movement or something? Why is he so dead set penciled in on exclusively the center position?

 

[Hoovtrain]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1078735915554467840

Back to Stockton. My dream of him replacing an obsolete and fading Kosta Koufos isn’t going to happen any time soon, is it?

I am not understanding this back and forth. If they don’t think he’s ready want to get him PT, then keep him down in Stockton and let him play. If they are going to bring him up, then give him some minutes.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1078735915554467840

Back to Stockton. My dream of him replacing an obsolete and fading Kosta Koufos isn’t going to happen any time soon, is it?

The Stockton Kings have a game at home both tonight and tomorrow night - he might actually be back with the team in L.A. on Sunday.

 

[LoungeLizard]

#Trusttheprocess

 

[The Effort Police]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1078735915554467840

Back to Stockton. My dream of him replacing an obsolete and fading Kosta Koufos isn’t going to happen any time soon, is it?

Forget Kosta Koufos. Last night we saw Ben McLemore-Justin Jackson small ball!

I've wanted him to get minutes to develop him, but with Bagley out it's actually at the point where I think getting him minutes would help the team better.

There is nothing in the known universe more horrifying than Ben McLemore and Justin Jackson at the 3/4.

 

[VF21]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1078735915554467840

Back to Stockton. My dream of him replacing an obsolete and fading Kosta Koufos isn’t going to happen any time soon, is it?

They're gonna bounce him back and forth to take advantage of the opportunity to give him court time. He'll most likely travel to LA with the team.

 

[ESP47]

I'd rather see Giles get minutes in Stockton over waiving a towel. Sounds like the Kings are sending him down when Stockton has back to backish games this year to get him playing time without missing much time with the big league squad.

 

[macadocious]

Giles had ice on his knees while warming up
Last night. Not sure what that was about

 

[Suicide King]

I'd rather see Giles get minutes in Stockton over waiving a towel. Sounds like the Kings are sending him down when Stockton has back to backish games this year to get him playing time without missing much time with the big league squad.

He played a few games there last week as well if I am not mistaken.

 

[Livinthedream]

All I can say is that the team must have something really specific in mind for Giles that they want him to master before letting him get minutes in the rotation. I know there is a plan for both Marvin and Giles. Really wish we knew for sure what it is, because I can't yet place my finger on it. Giles is going to play the 5 or bust, apparently.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

5 fouls in 10 minutes the other night is ridiculous. .

There's no way I would play him over WCS. A foul rate that poor is a total negative.

For all anybody knows, the staff may be coaching him to play overly aggressively knowing that his minutes are going to be short which could somewhat explain the foul rate.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

I am not understanding this back and forth.

Because they are getting what they can out of him when it most benefits them. He needs as much game experience as possible and sometimes that experience can be useful to the A club.

Plus, I’m sure they want to keep his confidence high. Being able to see that his hard work and development is translating at the next level can help accomplish that.

 

[VF21]

All I can say is that the team must have something really specific in mind for Giles that they want him to master before letting him get minutes in the rotation. I know there is a plan for both Marvin and Giles. Really wish we knew for sure what it is, because I can't yet place my finger on it. Giles is going to play the 5 or bust, apparently.

I'm pretty sure they want him to be able to play without drawing a whistle every time he exhales.

 

[Livinthedream]

I'm pretty sure they want him to be able to play without drawing a whistle every time he exhales.

I don't doubt that is part of it. Maybe I'm just old school and used to the league before the G-League existed and there were other ways to address that problem.

 

[Cojc]

I believe the coaches really like him and need to give him some game time and at this point Stockton being about a hour drive is a great way to do it. He sat all last year and bringing him back slowly hopefully is a good plan.

I see him trying hard but he needs to let the game come to him and I really believe the coaches are working with him how to just position himself both on offense and defense. Great instincts and the future is bright for him so let’s not push him right now.

 

[Section 101]

Harry Stinking it up. Got a T too.

 

[SLAB]

Caught the last 5 minutes of the half, and he was doing whatever he wanted. Guess he turned it around!

 

[jcassio]

I am not understanding this back and forth. If they don’t think he’s ready want to get him PT, then keep him down in Stockton and let him play. If they are going to bring him up, then give him some minutes.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out in the future that the back and forth was due to having too many cooks in the kitchen. For example, Vlade may want Harry in Stockton, while DJ wants him back (and available) for home games and when we’re short handed.