[Grades] Grades v. Thunder 04/24/12

Kings Player of the Game?

  • Travis Outlaw

    Votes: 10 34.5%
  • Jason Thompson

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • DeMarcus Cousins

    Votes: 13 44.8%
  • Isaiah Nastocktonson

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Ok. Well. Get this: We shot 18-22 in the first quarter against OKC's starters. Scored 40pts. Then we could not close out the game against OKC's bench, which played the entire 4th, without James Harden. Er...not sure what to say about that.

Anyway, was an interesting game at least with all kinds of over the top performances, Outlaw playing the game of his last 3 seasons, JT playing the game of his please pay me, and Boogie slaying his OKC demons...kinda, as he stepped outside and then beat the cruid out of hapless Cole Aldrich (who I remember people talking about taking in the draft as a Boogie alternative a couple of years back). And of course I would be remiss if I failed to mention the Hustlin' Husky, who played a pretty solid roleplayer type game, has now topped Nash and Stockton and is being mentioned alongside Magic Johnson. We've got one game left -- put his chances of being the greatest PG of all time at about 50/50 before the season is out.

Ok, given that we almost won this one, which would have really put a dent in our Anthony Davis pursuit, and given that the Lakers have now secured their playoiff position, if Mike Brown plays it anything like the Zen Master always did there's a good chance we win the last game against the Lakers scrubs, and maybe a ballboy or 2. So since I promised I would do this theme before the year was out and I may not have another chance, Theme = Worst Sports Owners of All Time.

Boxscore

Outlaw ( A ) -- there is really no way to explain what happened tonight. The absolute truth, no exaggeration, is that Travis Outlaw has not been an NBA player this year. Minus the guaranteed money we are stupidly paying him, he would have been released like any other 10 day contract scrub months ago. The last time we faced this same team a week ago, he shot 0-6 for 1pt in 27 minutes while Durant put up 29-14-7. He received an F for a grade. And then tonight...its pod people I tell ya. His hot start began as a gift from the Thunder, who had seen him play a week ago and were gleefully doubling our more competent players and leaving Outlaw wide open, and I do mean WIDE open at the three point stripe. Several long bombs later they began to get more honest about things, but then something even odder happened -- Outlaw, who has pretty much devolved into a jump shooting chucker despite the athleticism, began to charge the rim. It made you cringe given how little he's done it this year, but he came up with several tough finishes (which were actually on shots he forced and should not have been taking, but still), two big dunks, and was just flat getting it done on offense as he had 10 points in the first quarter. With us struggling in the 2nd we brought our main guys in...and it was Outlaw who was the guy with the drive and dunk to restablize us. Kept on making hustle garbage plays into the third, and that was the other thing -- not only was he using his athleticsm on the drive, he was using it on the boards too, and was rebounding with authority. To let you know just how bizarre a development that is consider that Travis Outlaw is ranked 170th out of 195 forwards in the league in rebounds per 36min. Actually...Outlaw is ranked 170th of 195, Honeycutt 172nd, Cisco 179th and Salmons 186th -- I said before the year began that we had put together the worst rebounding collection of SFs in the league, and boy had we. Not tonight though. Outlaw was playing better defense than Durant's statline indicates too (well, Durant's 7-19 might hint at it I guess). Finally made a mistake at the beginning of the 4th that felt more like the Outlaw we've grown to love, fouling the 3pt shooter as he hit the shot to commit the 4pt play error on Cook as OKC took back the lead. Wasn't heard from much in the 4th. Which is probably why we lost of course. You go away from Travis Outlaw you get what you deserve. As these grades always have a healthy dose of relatvity to the indivudal player built into them, gotta go A here. I sincerely doubt, that even if we are stuck with Travis Outlaw for 3 more long years , that he's going to give us a much better game than 20pts 7reb 4stls and 2blks.
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Marge Schott (Cincinatti Reds) -- colorful might be a word. That is if you your version of colorful is cheap old foul mouthed racist. She publicly endorsed Adolf Hitler's early years, saying he had the right idea, but things just sort of got out of hand (ya think?). She referred to her players as n-words, and supposedly complained she would hire a monkey before another n-word in owner meetings. She let her dogs -- giant St. Bernard's -- defecate on the field both before and after games. She was cheap as the day went long, famously complaining about having to pay players while they were hurt, refusing to hire scouts "because all they did was watch baseball games" and refusing to have out of town scorers listed on the scoreboards because the service cost $350 a month. She was also heartless. When her outfielder Eric Davis tore up his knee in the playoffs, she wouldn't spring for airfare to send him on home. When an umpire at one of her games suddenly collapsed and fell over dead, she complained about the game being postponed. She later regifted a boquet of flowers that had been sent to her to the funeral home as a sign of her 'respect". In the midst ofone of the Reds last strong playoff runs she announced she was firing manager Davey Johnson regardless at the end of the season. The reason? Because Johnson, who was already in his 50s at the time, was living with his fiancee in the months before their marriage. She was a peach. A rotten peach. But a peach.

Thompson ( A- ) -- quiet start, but especially after Collison came in just started scoring at will against him. And that kind of remains the thing with JT -- we need a better defensive starter, but when you look at the 3rd bigs for the elite contending teams, at Nick Collison, Taj Gibson, Udonis Haslem etc., JT fits right in with that group. Tonight Jason didn't do much against a quiet Ibaka (who I think was just depressed that Cuz wasn't going to go charging in there 10 times to pad his block stats), but whenever Collison was in there he worked him over. Called postups, drives, long jumpers...it wasn't just garbage hoops. On the flip side did not give us much on the boards -- none of our guys did as we go got killed on the glass for what seems like the 20th straight game (even Charlotte whipped us). Late in the game got iced by his own team at the FT stripe when a strange series of lineup changes and subs led to a 2 minute delay between his FTs, but for him a 4-6 night isn't bad there either.
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Arnold Johnson (Kansas City A's) -- Bought the Philadelphia A's, and despite a furious public campaign to try to keep the team in Philly, moved them out ot Kansas City. Then things got interesting. First he signed a very short term lease with Kansas City, which included an escape clause allowing him to leave the city anytime after 3 years were over if attendance fell below 1 million for the season. Second he had long been in bed with the Yankees owners in business dealings (including actually owning Yankee stadium before he bought the A's, and the Yankees owners' holding a second mortgage of Johnson's house worth $2.9mil). Third, it was widely rumored that his eventual intention was to pack the team up a second time and move to L.A., an idea that was only frustrated when the Brooklyn Dodgers beat him to that market a couple of years later. But meanwhile, Johnson still wanted out of Kansas City, still had his connections with the Yankees, and didn't give a damn about the sport -- he was pretty much a male vesion of the bitchy owner in Major League. So for the next 7 years everytime the A's developed a young player with any talent, Johnson would immediately sell that player off to the Yankees, helping his bottom line and hurting attendance as he basically turned the proud A's franchise into a new minor league affiliate of the Yankees right where their old affiliate had been. Not surprisingly, people did indeed quit coming to the games while the constant influx of free talent helped power the Yankees dynasty. But Johnson, alas, died before he was able to complete the final leg of his master plan and get the team to California. That would fall to his successor, Charlie O. Finley.

Cousins ( A- ) -- well, in his 4th try against the team that has tortured him this year, Boogie finally figured it out. What stops this from being truly triumphant is that it really ddin't feel like the same team we were facing. Having lost the top seed, playing poorly, just playing out the string, that same defensive intensity was not there. Who knows, maybe World Peace punctured their confidence balloon with his elbow. In any case, Cuz played this one smart, neutralizing the Ibaka factor by simply refusing to play in his playground and peppering the Thunder with long jumpers instead. In fact a day after geting a reprieve for his 13th technical, it seemed like Boogie was intent on playing this one smart al the way around, as he also conspicuously avoided fouls on defense (sometimes too conspicuously as he wasn't even raising his arms on defense against Perkins in the early going). In fact you could almost say he played a finesse first half -- unfortunately the finesse would extend to the boards, where he didn't do much and was rarely in position on offense due to the jumper focus. As per usual on our team, got hampered by his own coach as he scored 16pts in about 16 minutes and then never returned in the first half as we scored 19pts in the second quarter after 40 in the first. But obviously, don't want to break up that awesome bench momentum. Coaching 101 really. Turned up the aggression after half, working well with Reke for dunks and layups, and getting aggressiuve on defense and coming up with mutliple blocks and steals as we opened the lead back up. Pumped his stats up considerably in the 4th after the Thunder just said screw it and threw their reserves in there. Big Cuz got matched up with fellow sophomore lottery pick Cole Aldridge, who has been nearly as effective s DeMarcus in his career. Nearly. Boogie won that battle, and if wasn't quite the same thing as finally overpowering a fully engaged Perkins and Ibaka, it was still a strong game against this team.
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Ted Stepien (Cleveland Cavaliers) -- you know the way we couldn't trade our first round pick this year because we traded our pick last year? That's the result of this owner. Taking over the Cavs in the early 80's, he proceeded to run them into the ground, gaining the nickname the Cleveland Cadavers, threatened to move the team to Toronto, and finally sold his interest to the Gund brothers. He meddled incessantly and had no patience. In one season he fired three different coaches, including Chuck Daly who was fresh off of taking my alma mater Penn to a Final Four and just about to take over the Pistons and become a HOFer. His 4th coach that year was Bill Musselman, whom he had just fired the year before. Stepien was famous for overpaying roleplayers, and for trading away pick after pick to acquire mediocre and over the hill vets. One of those picks went on to become James Worthy, selected #1 overall in 1982. Thus the institution of the "Stepien" rule to protect idiots from themselves.
 
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Evans ( B- ) --played a great game for 2 1/2 quarters. Then it felt like he became aware that he was playing a great game and started trying to do too much and make mistakes. Started on Westbrook on defense again (IT has had real problems staying in front of Westbrook, so we've been using a cross matchup the last couple of games) and did a very good job against him, although he did threaten to get into foul trouble with it. A lot of defensive attention being paid to him in the early going but was not forcing even as the ball frequently went elsewhere. Was less settled after returning in the late 2nd, trying several low percentage plays that ended up as turnovers. Reset and started the third with a blast, including a beautiful highlight reel spin move to the up and under layin. Wasn't all scoring as he was setting Cuz up repeatedly as we stretched the lead back out. But somewhere at about this point he seemed to get a little too aggressive, getting 1 on 1 happy and trying several high risk high reward passes that we just didn't need. Was fairly quiet in the 4th, besides almost decapitating Royal Ivey on a good punish the defender play when Ivey tried to hop in his way on the break. Then we get to the final two minutes, and after doing a strong job on Westbrook most of the night, all of a sudden Tyreke is matched against age old Kings killer Derek Fisher..and Fisher beats him! First Reke made the foul the 3pt shooter mistake (and he really did, not just a Fisher flop), then after those FTs Derek Fisher comes down and does the power drive and high kick off the glass. Reke actually defended it pretty well, it was a low percentage shot, especially for Fisher. But it went in, and those were probably the plays that preserved our draft positon. Maybe Reke wants that shotblocker too. His 8-13 night now makes it 19-24 the last two games at SG, and brought his season average up to .450, which is only a smidge below the .458 of his rookie season.
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Art Modell (Cleveland Browns) -- always the classy guy, Art's first move upon buying the Browns back in 1963 was to fire its legendary coach, Paul Brown, who had won 7 league titles in the previous 17 years and for whom the franchise was named. Fast forward 30 years to something that should sound familiar. Modell despite promises to never move the Browns from Cleveland, and begins negotiations with Cleveland to have his stadium refurbished. A referendum is scheduled on the tax to pay for it. Meanwhile he secretly negotiates behind the city's back with Baltimore, and 2 days before the referendum is scheduled to go to vote, he goes public saying that even if it passes it may not be enough to keep the Browns in Cleveland. Most think that this is an attempt to get he referendum to fail, so he can use that as an excuse that he was not getting any support in Cleveland, and leave. It passes anyway (Clevelanders being more practical about such things than Sacramentans). And Modell moves anyway, leaving behind the team colors and records in a dseal with the NFL, but taking all of its personnel to Baltimore to become the Ravens.

Thomas ( B- ) -- played a pretty decent roleplayer game this time out, and frankly I think we run smoother when he is pass mode. Now the drawbacks were that it was a poor shooting night, and he just has a helluva time on defense against this team. Not sure why. In any case, we started off trying to hide him from Westbrook in the early going, and we got hurt by it as the Thunder, probably ready for the tactic after having seen us only a week ago, immediately went to Seflaosha for a three from the perimeter, and then one from inside as he got the +1 on the postup. Not much IT could do on the latter giving up nearly a foot in height and 40lbs. On the other end thugh was racking up early assists, and it greased the offense with him as the passer whiel everybody scored at ridiculousy efficient rates. After briefly leaving for Jimmer, was reinserted for the final play of the first quarter with only 3 seconds left, and raced up court and hit a three to beat the buzzer and give us a 40pt first quarter. In the second quarter again showed an inability to stay in front of Westbrook, and meanwhile the offense ground to a halt wiht the reserves in, and IT wasn't able to revive it. Played a quiet third, but near the end of the quarter showed good feel as we started to really struggle, and so he treid to step forward offensively for his oly real push of the night to break the OKC run. Had multiple shots blocked at the rim as he startd getting TOO aggressive -- guess it was his turn against this team this time. We had him on Cook for some reaon in the 4th and just got shot over.
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Donald Sterling (LA Clippers) -- where to even begin on The Donald? Both cheap, and if the numerous lawsuits and stories surrounding him are true, a racist. The West Coast Donald won't rent his apartments to hispanics or blacks, has been sued numerous times for secual harrassment, and even has a philsophy regarding how to socialize with prostitutes, he's prone to parade women through his lockerroom to show them the "beatuiful black bodies" in the shower, when his coach developed cancer he refused to cover the out of network treatment costs, leading several former players to step forward to cover the cost, and oh, he spent the first 30 years of his Clippers ownership simply refusing to spend the money it would take to win. Then when they finally did start winning this season, he tried to throw out the most dedicated fan hs losing franchise had ever had because they all of a sudden had bandwagon fans wiling to take those seats.

Fredette ( C- ) -- in in the late first and made nice fullcourt pass on the break to JT for a layup. One of the few highlights however. Started to struggle as the Thunder surged back in the second, getting stripped, blocked. Only minutes after half came in the final minute when it was time to play the desperation hit a three and foul game.
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Frank McCourt (LA Dodgers) -- Step 1 Buy team for $450mil, finance mostly with debt. Step 2 Appoint your darling wife CEO of team. Step 3 Accuse darling wife of sleeping with her driver, lock her out of her office, and file for divorce. Step 4) engage is ludicrously ugly and ridiculously expensive (I swear if I ever earn a billion dollars you could not get me to marry somebody for all the tea in China) divorce costing hundreds of millions of dollars. Step 5) have storied 100+ yr old team file for bankruptcy. Step 6) sell team for $2 billion. Step 7) Laugh all the way to the bank.
 
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Garcia ( D ) -- not ale to slow cook in the early 4th and fouled him shooting a 3pt shot. Hit a big three in the mid 4th, but it was basically the only thing he did. He missed 3 other threes, they were his only shots. he grabbed no boards. Did have one nice help block. But basically an empty bit of nothingness as his wildly inconstent play is just eternal.
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Harry Frazee (Boston Red Sox) -- The owner of the Boston Red Sox in the early years of the 20th century, Frazee was not a baseball man, he was a theater man. And so in order to finance his theatrical enterprises he decided to sell off one of his players to another team. The player? Babe Ruth. The team? The archrival New York Yankees. It would be like the Maloofs drafting Michael Jordan and then selling him to the Lakers to finance their reality TV shows. Oh, and for you non-Statesiders, Babe Ruth was kind of a big deal in baseball. Selling Babe Ruth would be pretty much the same thing as a soccer team selling Pele. To have done it for reasons that had nothing to do with baseball... This BTW was the event that both triggered the beginning of Yankees domination of MLB, as well as the infamous "Curse of the Bambino" which was alleged to have hung over the Red Sox for 90 years afterward. If you're very young you may only remember the Red Sox as winners. But for nearly a century they were perennial also rans who always found a way to come up short. That was the curse, supposedly.

Hayes ( D ) -- just another one of these empty games from Chuck. What an offseason we had -- here's hoping we do dramatically better this time. Almost threw a disastrous inbounds pass from the side heading into the halftimebreak, as he threw it back toward IT and Westbrook raced in stole it, and damn near laid it in before the buzzer. Back in in the 4th to spell Cousins and turned it over trying a backdoor cut. Another one of those nights where he was constantly getting rebounded over. I again almsot need a Hayes video refresher -- at 6'6" and groudnbound you SHOULD get rebounded over, but peviously he was a solid and ofttimes good rebounder. You just watch him now and wonder how that could be.
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Bill Wirtz (Chicago Blackhawks) -- nicknamed "Dollar Bill" Wirtz for his cheapness, Wirtz ran the Chicago Blackhawks, one of the "Original Six" of NHL hockey into the ground for decades. Eternally cheap with his players, he infamously went to war with his fanbase by refusing to allow Blackhawks games to be televised (his claim: televising them wasn't fair to season ticket holders). Combined with his unwilingness to actually pay for players, meaning one of the most storied teams in hockey never made the playoffs and national TV, he basically emptied the building with decades of bad teams adn no TV to reach new fans. Not terribly surprisingly, within 2 years of his death in 2007 his son Rocky had reversed most of the policy madness, and the Blackhawks finally won another Stanley Cup.

Greene ( C ) -- had a couple of highlight reel plays int eh 2nd after entering, including a big block soon after entering, and a big dunk on the break. Otherwise had good energy but dfid not get much done.
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James Dolan (New York Knicks & Rangers) -- an owner so stupid he ruined TWO franchises, I'm goign to stick with the Knicks, who have not won a playoff game in a decade, over the Rangers, who have only made the playoffs twice in a decade, because I am more familiar with the Knicks woes. Let me tell you from somebody sitting right on top of it: its pathetic. So James Dolan. Former hard partying scion of wealth. He likes to meddle. A lot. He also likes yes men. A lot. He has gone to war with the New York media, which actually bad as he is has nonetheless resulted in waves of negative publicity beyond the pale. Not understanding basketball he threw gobs of money at stacks of players, thinking that he could just buy a title. Then he became fascinated with the idea of big names. He hired Isaih Thomas (the lesser one) to be his GM. Then he hired Larry Brown to be his coach, in maybe the biggest travesty I have yet seen. As things got worse, he instituted a non-criticsim decree that would make Jerry Reynolds blush, canning anybody who said anything negative about his teams, and barring any reporter who wrote a negative story. This included sacking Marv Albert, who had only been doing Knicks games for 40 years by that time, for mentioning that the sucktastic Knicks did indeed suck. More recently he overruled his management and coach, again, to make the Melo trade happen. A year later his GM and coach are gone, another year of turmoil has gone by, and we'll see if the Knicks recent hot streak gets them out of the first round this time.

Honeycutt ( INC ) -- just in for the final minute
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What happened to TWill? Didn't hear about an injury? Did anyone else?

Thought we played pretty well for the most part, and if the game was managed properly, probably come away with a win. Whether everyone wanted a win tonight is a different story.
 
What happened to TWill? Didn't hear about an injury? Did anyone else?

Thought we played pretty well for the most part, and if the game was managed properly, probably come away with a win. Whether everyone wanted a win tonight is a different story.

I think they mentioned he was struck by "food poisoning" but I'm not sure. I do know Grant said at one point that he wasn't available.
 
Gotta go with Jason in the poll. He continues to show improvement and Clifford Ray continues to prove that he's worth every single $$$ he's being paid.
 
Gotta go with Jason in the poll. He continues to show improvement and Clifford Ray continues to prove that he's worth every single $$$ he's being paid.

Maybe we should sign Clifford to play a little PF for us next year...just kidding...sort of...
 
I went with Nashstocktonson....or whatever his name was. That's some Tebow-esque love right there. No comparison to the Big O, though. Guess he isn't that good after all... ;)
 
I went with Nashstocktonson....or whatever his name was. That's some Tebow-esque love right there. No comparison to the Big O, though. Guess he isn't that good after all... ;)

There might be some intentional slighting of OR going on. After all, he did kinda point out that the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes (so to speak).



















And in case anyone takes this seriously, I'm just kidding around folks. I do not for an instant believe Grant and Jerry would do anything to insult Big O. They looked at him with something most closely resembling reverence, which might explain why Grant was pretty much speechless. They knew full well they were in the presence of greatness.
 
Starters get A- but bench managed to come in and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. 7 points from our bench? Embarrassing. But what choice was there? This was winnable then Thunder bench, perimeter shooters mainly, again, did in Kings starters. Ugh,.
 
I wish we could have used tonight's starting lineup for twenty or thirty games. Would it have worked? A 6-9 SF that can hit a shot anc contribute rebounds, etc. and allow Evans to play the two and Thomas to play PG. But who's to know. Heck, maybe even Salmons for Outlaw in that group. Never tried. Since we haven't found a solution this year, it'll be starting over from scratch next year. Ought to be fun though.
 
I didn't catch most of the game tonight.. Did Outlaw play some decent man defense?

Better than Durant's stats would indicate actually. Same guy, same team, against whom he shot 0-6 and let Durant have a monster near triple double last time. But both teams looked like different people out there.
 
I cannot really explain the Travis Outlaw I saw tonight. He gave constant defensive effort and was even aggressive going to the rim. For most of the year, Trout has been sitting at the 3pt line waiting to shove it up and barely noticeable otherwise.
 
I have come to the conclusion that Isaiah Thomas would rather feed Travis Outlaw than Tyreke Evans. Oh well, a well played game and at this point the losses don't hurt as much.
 
I have come to the conclusion that Isaiah Thomas would rather feed Travis Outlaw than Tyreke Evans. Oh well, a well played game and at this point the losses don't hurt as much.

You mean he passed to the guy that was wide open instead of the guy they were covering? That's what smart PG's do.
 
You mean he passed to the guy that was wide open instead of the guy they were covering? That's what smart PG's do.

Umm no. They were equally "open" or "covered". In fact, on one particular play we actually set a screen to free up Evans. Thomas took a look at Evans, then passed it to Outlaw on the other side of the court.
 
Umm no. They were equally "open" or "covered". In fact, on one particular play we actually set a screen to free up Evans. Thomas took a look at Evans, then passed it to Outlaw on the other side of the court.

I'd rather pass to Outlaw for a 20-footer than Tyreke.
 
The Outlaw thing completely freaked me out. He looked good... at everything.

He was getting a lot of deflections, shooting well, picking his spots, cutting the the hoop off the ball, rebounding .. insane.

It is a longshot, and I mean L O N G S H O T, but maybe he's starting to come around? a little bit? He's young enough. And I don't mean he's a long term starter, but maybe he won't suck up 4 mil of cap room over the next 3 years all while giving us absolutely nothing.

I read a blurb the other day about Outlaw possibly playing for our summer league team, which of course would be stupid and somewhat counter productive when I'd rather have Honeycutt getting SF minutes in the summer league, but on the other hand at least it shows some dedication to the game. He came into the year with a broken hand, which meant he didn't have a lot of time to work on his game over the summer or get ready for training camp.

Maybe he'll be productive for us. Maybe.
 
Physically, there's no reason Outlaw can't be the perfect forward on this team. He can run, catch and shoot, and has the length and shown ability to be a weak side shot blocker.
As far as bad long term deals, there could be worse.
 
Outlaw has one solid game all year and now you guys are acting like he's not so bad? Come on now people. Every squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Even bad players have breakout games now and then. This happens at the end of the year fairly often.

Remember when Lawrence Funderburke tore it up for the last couple games one year?

Remember Ike Diogu blowing up into a 20-20 monster for the last couple games a few years ago?

All our SF's are terrible with the exception of Salmons coming off the bench. They are 3 point chuckers that can't hit 3's. Outlaw was a terrible choice after coming off a couple of horrendous years. Do you guys really think he just magically turned the corner yesterday and now he's back to the Outlaw of 5 years ago?
 
Outlaw has one solid game all year and now you guys are acting like he's not so bad? Come on now people. Every squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Even bad players have breakout games now and then. This happens at the end of the year fairly often.

Remember when Lawrence Funderburke tore it up for the last couple games one year?

Remember Ike Diogu blowing up into a 20-20 monster for the last couple games a few years ago?

All our SF's are terrible with the exception of Salmons coming off the bench. They are 3 point chuckers that can't hit 3's. Outlaw was a terrible choice after coming off a couple of horrendous years. Do you guys really think he just magically turned the corner yesterday and now he's back to the Outlaw of 5 years ago?

I agree with you. It's been one game, just one game. He's been terrible all season long, I can't believe someone would think he is ok. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him and I really hope he finds a way to keep playing like yesterday, but I'm not so confident about that. He will still be in this team next year, but we better find a real starting SF if we want to get better.

By the way, before signing a new SF we need to dump a lot of the ones we already have. I believe Greene is gone. Considering we should keep T-Will, we still have Garcia, Salmons, Outlaw and Honeycutt. 2 or 3 of these players should go, but how? I'm sure the Maloofs won't amnesty Salmons. So, do you think we will be able to find a way to trade Garcia, Salmons and Outlaw? I don't think so, and that's why I'm afraid we won't go after any good SF.
 
I agree with you. It's been one game, just one game. He's been terrible all season long, I can't believe someone would think he is ok. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him and I really hope he finds a way to keep playing like yesterday, but I'm not so confident about that. He will still be in this team next year, but we better find a real starting SF if we want to get better.

By the way, before signing a new SF we need to dump a lot of the ones we already have. I believe Greene is gone. Considering we should keep T-Will, we still have Garcia, Salmons, Outlaw and Honeycutt. 2 or 3 of these players should go, but how? I'm sure the Maloofs won't amnesty Salmons. So, do you think we will be able to find a way to trade Garcia, Salmons and Outlaw? I don't think so, and that's why I'm afraid we won't go after any good SF.

That's a big question. It's one thing to acquire a player, quite another to unload one. There is a lot of baggage that needs unloading.
 
The Outlaw thing completely freaked me out. He looked good... at everything.

He was getting a lot of deflections, shooting well, picking his spots, cutting the the hoop off the ball, rebounding .. insane.

It is a longshot, and I mean L O N G S H O T, but maybe he's starting to come around? a little bit? He's young enough. And I don't mean he's a long term starter, but maybe he won't suck up 4 mil of cap room over the next 3 years all while giving us absolutely nothing.

I read a blurb the other day about Outlaw possibly playing for our summer league team, which of course would be stupid and somewhat counter productive when I'd rather have Honeycutt getting SF minutes in the summer league, but on the other hand at least it shows some dedication to the game. He came into the year with a broken hand, which meant he didn't have a lot of time to work on his game over the summer or get ready for training camp.



Maybe he'll be productive for us. Maybe.

Getting floor time in summer league usually isn't a problem. They could back each other up. Plus, many times veteran players won't play in all the games. Hey I plan on being there with Cruzdude and Uncia03. You ought to come, its a blast rubbing elbows with GM's and players. two years ago Uncia03 and I sat though one of the games with JT's mom and dad. Very nice people! The hard part is figuring out which game you want to go to when the Kings aren't playing. There's two games going on at the same time in both arena's.

I guess it would be a long drive for you!
 
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