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How the game was lost...

  • Hit the damn rim DC

    Votes: 30 40.5%
  • Curry foul +1 on Matthews to put Mavs up 4

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Refs taking away Cuz's 4th quarter three for a foul against Belinelli

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • 10 turnovers by Cuz

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Uncalled offensive foul by Dirk on Collison

    Votes: 23 31.1%
  • Final defensive play

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Opening tip

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 9.5%

  • Total voters
    74
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1




Boxscore

Stats: 48min 31pts (13-20, 3-3, 2-2) 5reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Summary: there wasn't much going for a half+ again, but we hung in there and down the stretch we had a second big weapon

Gay ( A- ) -- badly missed his first jumper again, and throughout the first half was wincing and shuffling like he was in some pain. Still, he was making more good plays than he has in some time, although still little off his own dribble. Mostly he was catching balls off the spot ups, and running the floor to get finishes. But he hit an in rhythm three. Added a nice cut and post hook, made another nice play with a good steal and breakout. Through the third it was more of the same. Rudy was doing just enough not to be an impediment, but Boogie barely had a second weapon. Finally hit a relatively classic Rudy shot in the early 4th with a little jumper in the paint, and suddenly he became a major presence down the stretch, a significant second option teaming with Cuz to make this one of the better games of the year. He tied the game with a turnaround over Williams with 4:20 to go. Hit a late pullup with 2:40 to go, another pullup to put us up 4 with 1:50 to go. And when he hit the monster 3 late in the 2nd OT to make it a 7 point lead it looked like he had hit the game sealer and the stupid Dallas streak was finally over. Not to be of course, but it was big welcome back game as Rudy finally joined the renewed spirit here.

Stats:16min 12pts (4-4, 1-1, 3-3) 6reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Summary: possibly a key player here, as he brought great energy from tipoff and played above his head. Forgotten about late though.

Acy ( A+ ) -- gave us a great burst of energy in the early going that may have helped us establish the idea that we weren't going to go away, came back to reprise that role in the 3rd, and then unfortunately was forgotten about for all but one play in the big stretch battle (and on that one play in OT he snatched a strong d-board) Made some huge hustle plays, and punctuated everything with his emphatic dunks. Even added a corner three on the kick from Cuz. I plussed him here because you are going to see 12pts in 16 minutes out of Quincy just about never, and in the early going he was one fo the spiritual leaders of us putting up a fight.

Stats: 49min 35pts (15-30, 2-6, 3-6) 17reb 4ast 6stl 1blk 10TO
Summary: so so very close. SO close. Hit the shot to send it to OT and tried to carry us to victory, would have been a signature game.

Cousins ( ) --

Stats: 19min 4pts (2-5, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 3ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Summary: maybe he was playing hurt, but feels like the whole roster is passing him on the depth chart just with grit.

McLemore ( D ) -- the good news? Becoming better at setting other people up with passes than at shooting. The bad news? Becoming better at setting other people up with passes than at shooting. Provided no offense again, missed his threes again, and this on a night when we badly needed the shooting for 3 1/2 quarters. He did score a coupe of times on assisted hoops using his athleticism, including one nice catch and adjustment on the errant alley oop pass from Collison. But that was it. He set up Cuz, he set up Acy, it wasn't quite a complete nothing, but having perfect form on your jumpers only matters if you take them, and make the ones you take. More problematically, the Mavs and Wes Matthews know Ben, and they attacked his weaknesses, trapping him when he handled, and Wes worked him over with his superior strength. And so down the stretch of one of the better games we've played in recent years, in a double OT battle that would have been huge for us, Ben McLemore had lost his spot on the floor to undrafted 6'3" tweener guard Seth Curry, who at least brought a balls out scrappy defensive presence to the floor. D for disappointing. Where's the damn fight?

Stats: 47min 14pts (6-14, 0-4, 2-3) 4reb 12ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Summary: not quite enough offense for most of the game, and shaky decisionmaking late in it.

Collison ( ) --


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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 43min 14pts (5-17, 4-13, 0-0) 9reb 3ast 3stl 0blk 0TO
Belinelli ( B ) -- you look at the numbers and all that might jump out is the rebounding -- Marco is the weeniest of all possible Kings rebounders, but while waiting and waiting and waiting for his offense to come together Marco got very much in the spirit of things and put forth a major effort on the glass getting in front of bigger bodies and chasing down boards. And then of course the end of the game happened, and in the final minute of regulation it was Marco stepping forward to do what we hoped he would do and knock down two huge HUGE threes off well designed plays to set us up to tie it and send it into OT.

Stats: 17min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Koufos ( D ) -- and one night after providing us with a huge boost against the Thunder to get the win, Kosta came out in this one, with no WCS, with Cuz coming off a huge and long night the game before, and he got his butt handed to him by Javale McGee, forcing Cuz to put in an even longer night this time. Just was not able to compete with McGee's verticality, and got stripped in the post by him ala what was happening to Boogie -- is this some new Carlisle voodoo? Mavs centers, not known for quick hands, must have stripped our centers 7-8 times, and a lot of them were clean. In any case, little help here.

Stats: 36min 6pts (2-7, 2-3, 0-0) 3reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
Curry ( B ) -- in for Ben on the normal rotation, and in the early going did what Ben could not, and knocked down two spot up threes. That would be the last time he scored, and yet only the beginning of his story in this one as he played another 30 minutes in this game, never scored another point, and yet made a contribution as the "other" guy in our scrabbled together five man lineup that dueled the Mavs down the stretch. And how he did it remains a marvel, because at 6'3" and not especially athletic, he's been earning minutes, and tonight squeezed out Ben entirely for the second half of the game, but making himself into a scrappy gritty defender. There are physical limitations, but he's really putting in an effort, and this is a guy who's biggest NBA question mark was "who's he going to guard?" Now, when you did notice him late it was for the things he did not accomplish, but I suppose expecting nothing you can hardly be disappointed. Made a really boneheaded play with 48 seconds to go in regulation when he fouled Matthews on a breakout as the only King back, and touch fouled him, letting him have a +1 that put the Mavs up 4, and us needing a Marco sighting to survive. Then got overwhelmed by Dirk on the switch with 24 seconds to go to get the Mavs back up 3. And at the end of the first OT, out of all our guys it was Seth Curry who ended up with the ball for the first game winning attempt, and he missed a midrange jumper that any Curry should make. Still, as I said, he earned the last spot in the lineup by scrapping, he has some ballhandling ability, and while he's only modestly talented, he can knock down an open three. Knowing Karl's history Ben had better start to show something.

Stats: 14min 0pts (0-2, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Anderson ( INC ) -- bought us minutes and hustled on defense. It was enough.
 
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VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#6
I posted this in the game thread, but I'll repeat it here. DC was hit on the elbow as he shot - hence the airball. Not his fault. But hey, we'll all feel better when L2M points out the error tomorrow, right?
 
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KingMilz

Guest
#9
The result did not concern me that's the type of effort i would be happy to go 0-82 with, I have been super unimpressed by Cousins year up till the past 3 games but today he showed a different side and props to him that was a terrific game to back up a brilliant performance in OKC.

The one thing that totally pissed me off was Karl cancelling a potential career game from Acy who guarded Dirk well and made everything he threw up only to be rewarded with a seat on the bench so we could play Anderson out of position and Rudy, Acy was monstering the offensive glass as well wtf George. He does this crap all the time to WCS and Acy two energy bigs that we can use and no matter how crap KK or anyone else is they always get theres while WCS and Acy earn time only not to play.

Great game of basketball can't complain with the Kings effort.
 
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#12
I went into this game expecting them to make excuses and take the loss as usual. Instead, we played buzzer to triple buzzer with heart and defense. Cousins somehow kept his head on and had a monster game, Rudy Gay and Belinelli seem to be waking up, and Seth Curry impressed with his defense. Yes, we lost on a lucky buzzer beater, but i'll take the huge moral victory.
GO KINGS.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#13
I was very pleased at Cousins self control. There were several times where he could have gotten very aggravated but he did not react. Somehow that switch that makes him lose it seems to have been turned off. He plays much better in this mood and if this continues we will see a much better Cuz and Kings. Something has happened and it has been fairly abrupt.

I can't get upset at this game. That shot was going to go in or out. This time it went in but if I remember correctly we have won a close game or two this year. Dirk shoved Collison harder than Curry shoved whoever it was. It was a mega clear out by a guy a foot taller than the other. It's not like Dirk needed the extra space. And ...... the last air ball shot by Collison was a foul. I expect a long analysis about how the Kings were screwed by whoever it was that analyzed that other game we won. Yeah, right.
 
#15
One question I have is should Seth start at SG? or Marco starts and Seth plays backup SG? Its pretty telling that Karl trusted Seth over Ben when it mattered. Ben has gotten every opportunity and just can't put it together. I would like to see what Seth can do with consistent minutes. His defense is pretty solid and he is a high IQ guy. I mean why start a guy that will get his 7 minute stint and sit on the pine the rest of the half?
 
#16
Does anybody have video of Collison getting fouled on the last shot?
Because he hardly seemed contested (DWill was way behind him when he went up), and dude couldn't even touch the rim - this loss is completely on him until I see video evidence suggesting otherwise.

edit: after thinking about it, Collison has cost this team dearly with his late-game mistakes. His inexplicable dropping of Rondo's pass in the last seconds of the game cost that game, as well. I really don;t think he should be on the floor in late-game situations - he seems like he doesn't have the personality/temperment for clutch situations.

But if he was fouled hard enough to completely miss the hoop and the refs missed it, it would be an auto-include in the NBA ref-overview if that isn't politically motivated.
In other words, if Collison was fouled that obviously, and it isn't pointed out by the NBA, than that entire process is corrupt.
 
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bajaden

Hall of Famer
#17
This was a tough loss because of the way it happened, but it's not a loss that you hang your head over. It was a tough fought game by two teams that wanted to win. From that aspect, it was a fun game to watch. This is three games in a row where Cousins looked like a professional athlete in every way possible. He got his butt up off the floor and got back in transition. Any conversations he had with the ref's, he had during a dead ball situation. He wasn't perfect with ten turnovers, but other than that, it was one hell of a game by him. If I were grading the game I would have given him an A-, and that's only because of the turnovers, and a couple of times where he drove into triple teams.

Gay scored a quiet thirty something points, and finally looked like the Gay we all love. . He hit a big three when it was needed. Collison still over dribbles the ball. Curry played tough defense, which caused him to get five fouls, but at least the man he was guarding knew he was on the floor. You have to love Acy's energy. It's a shame they couldn't go home celebrating, but they have nothing to be ashamed of.
 
#18
The ticky tacky fouls Dirk got early on were pathetic. The no call on the offensive foul on Collison was a disgrace to the game. How does the league get away with this kind of bull****?

Oh and let's not forget the 4 point play they took off the board against us. What the hell was that???
They would have never reviewed that crap if it was Dirk taking the shot and not DeMarcus. The cards were stack against Sacramento the second that ball went up tonight. Games like these that really make me hate the NBA.
 
#23
This one hurts but in a very different way than usual : for once, I was not disappointed BY the Kings but was disappointed FOR the Kings players because I felt that they really deserved this win.
The hustle, poise and team play were incredible, especially considering the injured players and the fatigue.
All game long, I was thinking to myself "even if they lose, they are playing a heck of a game". First time for a very long time.
 
#24
We're more than a few sketchy calls in this game.......the 4 point play overturn was fishy. Dorks behavior was pretty over the top.....I don't care what respect the refs give him, how was he and Carlisle not T'd up. It was an offensive foul on Dirk....everyday, every game, except last night.

Worst part in all of this is Kings fans are the only ones who will talk about it.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#26
I was a bit surprised that the 4 point play was overturned when the whole reason Belli was knocked to ground was to get to Cousins to contest his shot.
I have long hated the idea of defenses being able to use "fouls", who's only purpose is to help an offense overcome defensive cheating, against the offense.

Its why I hate the Hack a Whoever. Its against the whole spirit of the game.

Its why they put in the breakaway foul rule.

And I really wish they would restore balance by simply giving the offense the ability to wave off a foul they don't want to receive. These fouls where the refs enforcing them actually damages the offense isn't right. Who cares if Belinelli gets run over? The only reason we, the offense, would care is if it caused us to miss a shot. Ironically by enforcing it, it did cause us to miss a shot.
 
#27
It is great to see competitive, entertaining basketball again.

I have no problem criticizing DMC when it is due. I also have no problem giving him a standing O when he goes beast mode like he has the past 2 games. It is seriously elite stuff.

I love what I saw on this road trip. I am hoping for 5-2 or even 6-1 in the next 7 games.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#28
And I really wish they would restore balance by simply giving the offense the ability to wave off a foul they don't want to receive. These fouls where the refs enforcing them actually damages the offense isn't right. Who cares if Belinelli gets run over? The only reason we, the offense, would care is if it caused us to miss a shot. Ironically by enforcing it, it did cause us to miss a shot.
"The ruling on the court was a loose ball foul against Zaza Pachulia. That penalty is declined... 83-82, Sacramento. Mavericks ball."
 
#29
I went into this game expecting them to make excuses and take the loss as usual. Instead, we played buzzer to triple buzzer with heart and defense. Cousins somehow kept his head on and had a monster game, Rudy Gay and Belinelli seem to be waking up, and Seth Curry impressed with his defense. Yes, we lost on a lucky buzzer beater, but i'll take the huge moral victory.
GO KINGS.
That's how I feel too. Yes, we lost in heartbreaking fashion. But we also are fans of a team that in the past would have lost by 10 or more at the end of regulation. That was just about everything I want to see from the Kings, minus the win.
 
#30
I have long hated the idea of defenses being able to use "fouls", who's only purpose is to help an offense overcome defensive cheating, against the offense.

Its why I hate the Hack a Whoever. Its against the whole spirit of the game.

Its why they put in the breakaway foul rule.

And I really wish they would restore balance by simply giving the offense the ability to wave off a foul they don't want to receive. These fouls where the refs enforcing them actually damages the offense isn't right. Who cares if Belinelli gets run over? The only reason we, the offense, would care is if it caused us to miss a shot. Ironically by enforcing it, it did cause us to miss a shot.
Totally agree with you there. I don't get why they don't do it the way its called in soccer. Let the basket count and maybe call a foul on the player afterwards. Its working with and-ones as well. Why make a difference based on whether the offensive player has started his shooting motion or not?