Grades v. Lakers 12/26/09
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There's a difference though in the way they run sets. Tyreke does not dribble around looking for teammates to set up. Beno DOES. Tyreke generally walks up and looks to make his own move or just dumps it off w/o really anyone moving while they LOOK AT HIM. With Beno it's him moving from side-to-side and all over as his teammates look to get open so he will GET THEM THE BALL. Totally different. In ultimate crunch time (at this point dealing w/ #13 rook) I'd rather have Beno getting into the offense fast as he always does and Tyreke off the ball in most match-up situations.
Oh bullbleep. Laker fans start buying their tickets for the Laker appearances in Sacramento the day the schedule comes out. Why? Because a lot of Laker fans here in Northern California only get a chance to see their team twice a year. Kings fans used to do the same to the Warriors in the Bay Area. What goes around, comes around.
Sacramento citizens do support their team, to the best of their ability. We're coming off a 17-win season. The Lakers are the reigning champs.
Sacramento citizens do support their team, to the best of their ability. We're coming off a 17-win season. The Lakers are the reigning champs.
"I'm cool with it - we're still learning".
Taking perhaps the two best teams in the NBA to overtime is so far advanced from where we were last year, and where most poeple had us going into this year.. it is ridiculous.
I sure hate seeing the finger pointing - we don't need to throw Tyreke, Coach, or anybody else under the bus.
The Kings are going to have a V shaped recovery it is going to be just fine. I'm actually so excited I did not have any idea we would be this good this year.
Taking perhaps the two best teams in the NBA to overtime is so far advanced from where we were last year, and where most poeple had us going into this year.. it is ridiculous.
I sure hate seeing the finger pointing - we don't need to throw Tyreke, Coach, or anybody else under the bus.
The Kings are going to have a V shaped recovery it is going to be just fine. I'm actually so excited I did not have any idea we would be this good this year.
Its different because of the difference in their abilities, Tyreke creates open team mates because he can get to the hole so well, Beno doesn't have that natural ability so he sort of probes the defense and moves the angles around, which is why he winds up getting a lot of mid range pull ups.
With Tyreke you space the floor right and When Tyreke penetrates the defense has to collapse and the ball gets kicked and rotated around the floor. Which is one of the reasons our 3 point% is so unbeleivably high this year, because we've had good spacing with good shooters and Tyrke forces teams to collapse.
With Beno more movement is required to create shots so you see the offense look more like the classic Kings offense. If you just space the floor for Beno his man just defends him straight up. Where Beno thrives is in exploiting the space created through his team mates movement.
It's not really fair to say Tyreke is only driving to score because he pops the ball out to shooters a ton.
As far as ultimate crunch time goes, I enjoy watching a complex well drawn up play by the coach as much as the next guy, but I'd also be foolish not to appreciate that most of the iconic wins and moments and championships in the NBA are created by having a superior talent take the ball and win. The question is whether you believe Tyreke is that sort of superior talent, I definitely do, and obviously based on the last week coach does as well.
With Tyreke you space the floor right and When Tyreke penetrates the defense has to collapse and the ball gets kicked and rotated around the floor. Which is one of the reasons our 3 point% is so unbeleivably high this year, because we've had good spacing with good shooters and Tyrke forces teams to collapse.
With Beno more movement is required to create shots so you see the offense look more like the classic Kings offense. If you just space the floor for Beno his man just defends him straight up. Where Beno thrives is in exploiting the space created through his team mates movement.
It's not really fair to say Tyreke is only driving to score because he pops the ball out to shooters a ton.
As far as ultimate crunch time goes, I enjoy watching a complex well drawn up play by the coach as much as the next guy, but I'd also be foolish not to appreciate that most of the iconic wins and moments and championships in the NBA are created by having a superior talent take the ball and win. The question is whether you believe Tyreke is that sort of superior talent, I definitely do, and obviously based on the last week coach does as well.
I'm actually happy Westphal is concentrating on Tyreke instead of our record.
Face it, we're not going to win the title, or even make the playoffs this year. Its best to get our franchise player in these tight situations so he can learn and grow used to it. Westphal is looking down the road right now, focusing on development. I'm glad he is.
Face it, we're not going to win the title, or even make the playoffs this year. Its best to get our franchise player in these tight situations so he can learn and grow used to it. Westphal is looking down the road right now, focusing on development. I'm glad he is.
Come on now, Reke had 3 clutch games within a week prior to the cavs game. He is a rookie, even vets like kobe have 6 for 28 games more times than you think. kobe in this game alone had a few not so clutch moments. Reke will learn what he needs to do in the clutch after this. This will slow down for him just like the rest of the game.
Ok, I repeated it but...
You have to admit Reke was CLUTCH in the final second against Milwaukee. Maybe he's better on the road than at home
I think it's all about match-ups at the very end. Reke is not in the league of Kobe or LeBron as good as he is at age 20 - but who is? D-Wade, Melo... that's about it. Against Milwaukee in final second was matched up against fellow rookie Jennings who he went by and then it was breaking down slow foot Bogot. No sweat for Reke Havoc. A little different trying first to breakdown Kobe and if you could get that done then on into the lane with twin-towers Gasol and Bynum protecting the rim
The rook is learning and in the meantime Coach W seems content to have him take his lumps out there on some nights while on others marveling at his talent as an amazing "basketball player."
You have to admit Reke was CLUTCH in the final second against Milwaukee. Maybe he's better on the road than at home
I think it's all about match-ups at the very end. Reke is not in the league of Kobe or LeBron as good as he is at age 20 - but who is? D-Wade, Melo... that's about it. Against Milwaukee in final second was matched up against fellow rookie Jennings who he went by and then it was breaking down slow foot Bogot. No sweat for Reke Havoc. A little different trying first to breakdown Kobe and if you could get that done then on into the lane with twin-towers Gasol and Bynum protecting the rim
The rook is learning and in the meantime Coach W seems content to have him take his lumps out there on some nights while on others marveling at his talent as an amazing "basketball player."
I think Tyreke deserves a D tonight...hey Tyreke, just because the spotlight is on you doesn't mean you have to forget about the other 4 guys on your team to get noticed!
Edit: and as author of the RA&1 award, I give it unanimously to one Tyrele Evans...YOU my friend took the game to the playground and put a wrench in our offense when if mattered most...thanks a heap! Ok, back to practice now, por favor!
Edit: and as author of the RA&1 award, I give it unanimously to one Tyrele Evans...YOU my friend took the game to the playground and put a wrench in our offense when if mattered most...thanks a heap! Ok, back to practice now, por favor!
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I think Donte deserves an A-. He played relatively solid D on Kobe (until the 2nd OT, but the wheels had fallen off the proverbial cart at that point) and his play on the offensive side of the ball wasn't his usual assortment of shooting us in the foot mixed with sweet sweet Novocaine but instead more akin to an actual NBA player.
Our team just lost to the world champions. How many of you out there expected them to win tonight. Be honest. It took the Lakers two overtimes to beat a team of rookies and second year players and yet most of you are handwringing and moaning about laker fans and whatever crap. A 20 year old kid finally has a bad night after doing superman impersonations up to now, and now you all want to lynch him. Now Beno, who was the goat last year, is the new hero and resident point guard for the team.
Look, I know it was a hard loss. It would have been easier if they had just came in and blown us out. We would have expected that. Yes, it hurts, but in reality its just a loss no different than the loss to Minny last week.
I'll tell you the truth. I hate losing, but I can handle it. Because thats how you learn. You have to go through it. There are no shortcuts to sucess and winning. What I can't handle are quiters and whinners. I'll leave it right there because I don't want to get in trouble.
Look, I know it was a hard loss. It would have been easier if they had just came in and blown us out. We would have expected that. Yes, it hurts, but in reality its just a loss no different than the loss to Minny last week.
I'll tell you the truth. I hate losing, but I can handle it. Because thats how you learn. You have to go through it. There are no shortcuts to sucess and winning. What I can't handle are quiters and whinners. I'll leave it right there because I don't want to get in trouble.
But these are the Fakers! You must lose all sense of reality and be able to beat the Fakers on any given night, even if the Kings are a bunch of rookies with a new coach.
But seriously, being up by 7 in overtime and losing it just hard to swallow, as it would be against any team. But again, Kings are young and will make mistakes, you just got to live with it and take it just like they're how young and will do crazy things like make a 35 point lead comeback and win.
But seriously, being up by 7 in overtime and losing it just hard to swallow, as it would be against any team. But again, Kings are young and will make mistakes, you just got to live with it and take it just like they're how young and will do crazy things like make a 35 point lead comeback and win.
If we treat someone like a second coming, then we should receive like from second coming.
Perhaps an illustration might help. Michael Jordan. The NBA finals. Last game, final seconds. Paxton makes the winning shot. The people cheer! Where's instant replay? Let's see this winning shot again! Wait a minute. In slow motion, as the ball heads toward Paxtons waiting hands, we see somthing else in the distance, in the corner of the screen. It's Michael Jordan. He is falling to the ground! As Paxton releases the ball, Jordan is on the floor, his hands and legs flailing wildely. He is rejoicing! He is crazy with joy! We glance back. The ball is still in the air heading toward the net.
Michael knew!
I can repeat the story with Steve Kerr in the role of Paxton. Can you see the pattern?
And Jordan wasn't lesser player because he allowed somebody else to shine in some particular situation. No, that made him even bigger. This kind of situations show you his remarkable bball IQ. And that makes him different from Bryants, Wades, Carters and other great players.
And I would like to see Evans to follow Jordan, not Kobe.
So I'll be hard on his *** as hell!
Perhaps an illustration might help. Michael Jordan. The NBA finals. Last game, final seconds. Paxton makes the winning shot. The people cheer! Where's instant replay? Let's see this winning shot again! Wait a minute. In slow motion, as the ball heads toward Paxtons waiting hands, we see somthing else in the distance, in the corner of the screen. It's Michael Jordan. He is falling to the ground! As Paxton releases the ball, Jordan is on the floor, his hands and legs flailing wildely. He is rejoicing! He is crazy with joy! We glance back. The ball is still in the air heading toward the net.
Michael knew!
I can repeat the story with Steve Kerr in the role of Paxton. Can you see the pattern?
And Jordan wasn't lesser player because he allowed somebody else to shine in some particular situation. No, that made him even bigger. This kind of situations show you his remarkable bball IQ. And that makes him different from Bryants, Wades, Carters and other great players.
And I would like to see Evans to follow Jordan, not Kobe.
So I'll be hard on his *** as hell!
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