Grades v. Grizzlies 03/08 - Kings Win 85-82

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Bricklayer

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Peja ( B- ) -- got off to another shaky start, but was actually being put into the high post position and doing a nice job distributing. Then on a play in which he almost made another turnover by bouncing the ball off his knee, he chased it down and recovered to hit a LONG 35ft three pointer that ignited him. Stole the ball and dunked the next possession and settled in. Played a solid game on both ends of the court for 3/4, fought pretty well on defense, and picked his spots on offense. Some good signs early from Peja -- rebounding was still weak, but he's starting to find his teammates in scoing position (as opposed to just giving it up passively), and he again showed a little of Reggie Miller in his game by screaming and kicking and basically flopping his way to the FT line. That's very annoying in an opponent, but makes guys much harder to guard. Never really a threat to take over the game, but gave us just enough offense to let our defensive hustle carry the day. Had him up in the A-/B+ range with about 15min to go in the game, but his grade really plummeted with his play from the late third onward -- James Posey in particular began to really really squeeze him, and Peja responded with a bunch of forced off balnce shots and bad turnovers.
Songaila ( B- ) -- nice solid first half in support of the Evans/Skinner hustle duo. Worked hard, was uncommonly strong on the glass for Darius, and still settled down to stroke his jumper. Started to attack the middle in the third, but less effective down there than he had been from the outside. Had a rough end to the third, when he and Bibby combined for some careless turnovers, and he was moved over to center alongside Corliss and Peja -- the Grizz started to dominate the middle with that alignment. And really looked like he was lacking confidence with his play in the 4th quarter
Skinner ( A ) -- the makings of a Sacto cult hero here. He is playing the game that Massenburg could only talk about last year and giving us the first active interior presence we've had since Keon. Got off to a tremendous start and set the tone for us in a remarkable first half where we, the Sacramento Kings, grabbed 17 offensive rebounds in a HALF. Slowed down a bit in the second half, but remained the strong and steady heart of our interior throughout the game. More than just a numbers things for him tonight -- Brian Skinner is not talented enough to get numbers to singlehandedly beat anybody. But tonight he did something more critical and along with Mo seemed to set a tone for the entire TEAM, and that's huge.
Evans ( A ) -- came out and proved that Sunday was not a fluke. Hit the boards HARD, and was extremely active on both sides of the floor. He and Skinner together in the starting lineup have changed the culture the last two games. Less effective in the second half than the first, and started to miss his shots, but still finished the game with 14 rebounds and numerous hustle plays. Now the question will be what happens when Brad and Cat get back?
Bibby ( A- ) -- This was a pretty quiet game for three-quarters -- the hustle guys were dominating the game, and Peja was chipping in points here and there, while Mike was just biding his time. But with the team dead in the water on offense, it was Mike who finally stepped up to unmire us after we had one of the coldest offensive streaks in recent Kings memory in the late 3rd to early 4th. We went FOREVER without a made FG, and then Mike decided enough was enough and hit three straight all by himself. Excellent leadership there -- but Mike was basically the only guy on the floor who hit anything for us for a whole QUARTER -- think it was Mike 10pts, rest of the Kings 1pt. Made a bad bad play in the last two minutes turning his head to allow the tying layup, but then turned right around to hit the monster clutch shot at the buzzer to win it. Grade shoots way way up for the fourth quarter -- not even so much that he was great the whole quarter, as that he was ALL we had. Without Mike we lose this game off a historically bad 4th quarter collapse. His team, his responsibility now, and he came through. Big ups.
Williamson ( C+ ) -- came in in that ugly Peja/Corliss forward tandem, and it worked well during the first half -- this was where the absence of both of the Grizz PFs really helped us tonight -- rather than Darius vs. Gasol and Corliss vs. Swift :eek: we got Darius v. Cardinal and Corliss vs. Ryan Humphrey, who he was just too strong for. But in the second half an attempt to return to that lineup was disastrous -- Corliss could get nothing going, forced shots, turned the ball over, and on one play inexplicably tried to take Big Jake Tsakalidis one on one at the end of the third -- uh, Corliss, you may be the Big Nasty, but Big Jake has you by about 6 inches and 50lbs.
Martin ( B ) -- came off the bench and kept the ball rolling defensively and with his athleticism. Could not match Mo's great boardwork, but helped keep the energy high from that OG spot. In the second half we tried to bring him back in to give Mo another breather, but he was immediately victimized by the much stronger Posey in the post, and Rick brought Mo right back in.
Ostertag ( B+ ) -- some ragged moments, but basically came in and picked right up where Skinner left off blocking shots, doing all the dirty work. Did all of that, really contributed, and yet once again no second half run -- instead we elected to go with the super small Darius/Corliss/Peja at the end of the third, and it did not work at all.
House ( INC ) -- brief first half stint, did not do much. Was reinserted on the final play, but played no role.

Adelman ( B ) -- whew! Very happy to come out of this one with the win -- maybe a little karmic payback for all of the blown calls last month. Huge huge shot by Bibby, but I can see the Grizz's argument. Not sure myself after seeing the ball tipped on the inbound, but for once here we got the tough call. We won as the anti-Kings. Hustle hustle and hustle, but the shorthanded offense fell completely apart late in the game. Nonetheless all season long we've been clutch, and here it was one more time -- what is that, half a dozen last second hits this year? Pretty remarkable really. Brian Skinner and Mo Evans deserve huge credit here -- last two games those guys have tried to singlehandedly (ok, doublehandedly) turn around our entire softy culture. You can see tonight that that's not going to be enough by itself in the end, but if it can just bleed over to our offensive players we'll be in good shape. So why only the "B" here? Because as hard as we played throughout the game, we collapsed down the stretch, and I think Rick may have inadvertently had a hand in it. Our starting 5 were playing this game HARD, but Rick went with them almost the whole way in the second half again, and I think they just ran out of steam. It would be one thing if the bench sucked in the first half, but it didn't. Acquitted itself quite well in our best quarter of the night (the second). To not try to buy some more time with Tag and Martin didn't make much sense -- our two key players of the night were Skinner and Mo, but they were less effective late than they were early, and big big minutes may well have been a part of that. I'm sure Rick was thinking that he couldn't bring in Tag with the team struggling on offense, but he always thinks that. And maybe if he buys a few minutes with Tag or Martin, the main guys come back with more energy to score later once they return. Anyway...we won down three major players (although Memphis was in the same boat), so can only complain so much. :D
 

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great grade.. was expecting something harsher for PEJA after his last quarter performance...

i would give bibby an A just for those clutch shots in the fourth quarter...
 
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Bricklayer said:
peja - and he again showed a little of Reggie Miller in his game by screaming and kicking and basically flopping his way to the FT line. That's very annoying in an opponent, but makes guys much harder to guard.

he shud do more of that in the 4th quarter.. with all the mugging thats going on.. (didnt watch the game... got that from the game thread)
 
I didn't read any of the grades. I scrolled down to Mike Bibby just to see what grade you gave him, and how you can't give him an A+ is beyond me. Making the game winner shot is automatically an A+.
 
Bibby had a pretty quiet game for most of the way. I remember thinking about how he wasn't having to score with all the inside work getting done, then the 4th quarter happened.
 
the always fair Brick with the grades....good job!

Bricklayer said:
Now the question will be what happens when Brad and Cat get back?

i was thinking the EXACT same thing as i was reading the comments about Mo's grade....i guess we shall see when they get their butts back in the lineup...

woohoo! im just so happy with the win...and glad that Mike bailed us out in the 4th...phew
 
I really dont care we blew the lead, we won, i liked how Bibby steped up and made his shots when they counted... cant wait to have Brad and Mobley back...
 
Bricklayer said:
Now the question will be what happens when Brad and Cat get back?

Good grades. As for this little question, I think Mobley should come off the bench in the BJax role (around 30 min) with Bibby (38 min) and Evans (28 min) the starters.

As for the frontcourt, it's going to be harder to figure out minutes for Skinner, Thomas, Corliss, and Darius.
 
xrzn said:
I didn't read any of the grades. I scrolled down to Mike Bibby just to see what grade you gave him, and how you can't give him an A+ is beyond me. Making the game winner shot is automatically an A+.
well he turn his head and let Earl Watson blow right pass him to tie the game on the previous play.
 
swisshh said:
Bibby had a pretty quiet game for most of the way. I remember thinking about how he wasn't having to score with all the inside work getting done, then the 4th quarter happened.

yeah i remember one point in the game when he went to the FT line and they put is stat line at the bottom of the screen...and it said he had 10 points....im initial thought was "thats all"...even though he was indeed rather quiet offensively...i didn't really notice....and thats obviously because we were finding our offense in other places...
 
I'm pretty sure Cat will stay the starter... that's just Adelman's way. Mo's energy will be great coming off the bench.

Skinner's too for that matter... with the "energy" guys we have now, maybe we can start bringing back the term "the bench mob" :)
 
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I'm pretty sure Cat will stay the starter... that's just Adelman's way. Mo's energy will be great coming off the bench.

Skinner's too for that matter... with the "energy" guys we have now, maybe we can start bringing back the term "the bench mob" :)

Unless we go back to the days with the bench playing as many minutes as the starters, I'm not sure. I still say Evans is better suited toward the Christie role and Cat the Bobby role, but we'll see.
 
Bricklayer said:
Skinner ( A ) -- the makings of a Sacto cult hero here. He is playing the game that Massenburg could only talk about last year and giving us the first active interior presence we've had since Keon. Got off to a tremendous start and set the tone for us in a remarkable first half where we, the Sacramento Kings, grabbed 17 offensive rebounds in a HALF. Slowed down a bit in the second half, but remained the strong and steady heart of our interior throughout the game. More than just a numbers things for him tonight -- Brian Skinner is not talented enough to get numbers to singlehandedly beat anybody. But tonight he did something more critical and along with Mo seemed to set a tone for the entire TEAM, and that's huge.

Good point. Without any stats to back me up, I think Skinner is having much more of an impact than Keon Clark. As for Massenburg...well...let us not dwell on evil times...
 
PixelPusher said:
Good point. Without any stats to back me up, I think Skinner is having much more of an impact than Keon Clark. As for Massenburg...well...let us not dwell on evil times...

I agree and I think he's got a much better attitude about the whole thing.

:D

Team grade: B+

They could have made it a little less intensive if they hadn't gone stone cold for nearly 10 minutes, but all things considered they are definitely showing they're not going to roll over and play dead.

And defense? I saw defense!!! And offensive rebounding! And team play!!!

Good effort and another gutsy win we needed to begin to re-establish who we are as a team, at least for the short term.
 
Good grades. I think they were fair. Skinner and Evans played incredible, especially in the first half, while Bibby stepped it up in crunch time. A very good team effort that got a W.
 
Personaly I think things look to get better in terms of rebounds with Brad back in the line up. I suspect that Skinner will get plenty of time WITH Brad and Mo has secured big min at the 2 and 3. Now the idea of a hard nosed defense we will have to see how that works out. I have to be honest once Bobby is back I would NOT object to seeing Mo moved into the starting line up and sliding Cat to the bench if his game is not better. I suspect Cat has been playing with back problems and if so then when he gets back he may be palying a great game, but at the moment Evans is palying MUCH better.
 
I applaud a lot of Evans efforts but I have problems with his shooting from outside. I would like to see him go in for closer jumpers, instead of jacking up quick shots from outside.

I like his efforts on rebounding and his hustle. I just don't think he's a better offensive option than Cat.
 
VF21 said:
I applaud a lot of Evans efforts but I have problems with his shooting from outside. I would like to see him go in for closer jumpers, instead of jacking up quick shots from outside.

I like his efforts on rebounding and his hustle. I just don't think he's a better offensive option than Cat.

I would like to see EVERYONE on the team do that. We hoisted too many jumpers that clanged off the rim in the second half tonight.

Honestly, I don't think Evans stretches the floor enough to be a consistent starter. He should get big minutes as a six man, we could potentially have 3 six men (BJax, Evans, and Thomas). Things look pretty good, but we'll have to see how they gel as a team.
 
celt, too much pressure on BJ???? In all consensus, the Kings will not be a big splash in the playoffs. Really since any hope of rings has all but been tossed aside this year, no need to rush BJ, or any other player for the remainder of the year. Should the Kings elect to keep Jackson over the summer, he won't get much mileage from the ownership over some abreviated post-season. Rather his value will be determined over the last three (injury) years. Cat? I'm still undecided. Times I think Evans gets the nod. I'll go on a limb, sixers don't like Barne's, release Jackson and take Matt back in a heartbeat.
 
Better than Cat offensivly over all? No, Better than the Cat who was invisable in the last 3-4 games he played? yup.
 
bibby is the keeper at point, we agree on that? so who better fits his game as the "other" guard. Defensive minded, can shoot when needed, plays a hard attack the board style...... I'm just not convinced that Cat is the yang to Mike's Ying
 
I agree with these grades. Especially Skinner, and Adelman. Skinner, I think, has turned into the brightest point of this trade and between him and Mo they had the whole team going for rebounds. Adelman has to rest his starters more. I think in close games he gets afraid to take a chance with the bench but he needs to get over that. I think tag could have helped us in the second half.
 
he again showed a little of Reggie Miller in his game by screaming and kicking and basically flopping his way to the FT line

Maybe Peja took some lessons from Vlade?....:D

I applaud a lot of Evans efforts but I have problems with his shooting from outside. I would like to see him go in for closer jumpers, instead of jacking up quick shots from outside.

I like his efforts on rebounding and his hustle. I just don't think he's a better offensive option than Cat.

I agree...I think Mo is a very good inside player, and we need one of those. He should definitely not start before Cat....we need Mo's off the bench energy....
 
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Excellent grading, Brick. I don't see anything that I could even nit pick on. Almost everyone's grade could have been lower IF it wasn't a game where everyone showed up to hustle and work hard. And then there was Bibby...
 
Good Grades, but i think you overrated Peja. C+ at best. As ive said many times before (maybe not here), Peja is NOT getting it done at crunch time, and thats when it counts. The guy was the worst player on the court in the 4th quarter. Every time he started to dribble, the Griz would attack him and he would basically give the ball up. His shots were forced, un-reboundable, and ill advised. His flopping bs was exactly that. BS. He managed to grab a couple of boards when the ball bounced directly to him, but rebounding effort overall was subpar for the course. No lift whatsoever, its like he tip-toes in the paint. One on one defense was pretty good. But when the going got tough, when the clock started to wind down, Peja was WEAK!
 
Any Grades for the Time Keeper and Officiating (heh-heh) ???

Songaila ( B- ) -- nice solid first half in support of the Evans/Skinner hustle duo. Worked hard, was uncommonly strong on the glass for Darius, and still settled down to stroke his jumper. Started to attack the middle in the third, but less effective down there than he had been from the outside. Had a rough end to the third, when he and Bibby combined for some careless turnovers, and he was moved over to center alongside Corliss and Peja -- the Grizz started to dominate the middle with that alignment. And really looked like he was lacking confidence with his play in the 4th quarter


Makes one wonder if that change in position had anything to do with the entire team going into a drought. I couldn't figure out what was going wrong, other than shots not dropping and that stretch where they didn't get a shot-off in like 4-5 possessions in-a-row ... man, that was agonizing.








 
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