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LWP777
Guest
A 76ers fan forum had a poll like this and 54% of the fans gave the grade a C, D, or F.
What do we think?
What do we think?
Kings Faithful
Starter
I'd give it a B+. I still think Spencer could develop into something good but at the same time though I don't think he would fit with the future outlook of our team in any case. Dalembert is also a great addition, even if only for 1 year. Good for our cap situation as well.
jimbodan
Bench
I'd give it a B, maybe a B+. Dalembert is an expiring contract and provides exactly what we need in the meantime. Nocioni was in a gotta go situation so getting rid of him was very good. I'm a little hesitant to give up on Hawes already, even though I wasn't a big fan of his I'm just afraid he is still young and talented enough to put it all together someday. Then again I think it was really time for a change of scenery for Spencer it just didn't look like he got it here.
It also hurts us a little bit this current off season in regards to free agents, since we only have about 15mil to spend now, but on the other hand the odds of us getting a max player anyway were slim to none to begin with and this move clears salary next off season which could end up being far more beneficial.
It also hurts us a little bit this current off season in regards to free agents, since we only have about 15mil to spend now, but on the other hand the odds of us getting a max player anyway were slim to none to begin with and this move clears salary next off season which could end up being far more beneficial.
I gave it an A, because Nocioni needed & wanted to go, I think Hawes' upside is doubtful, and his game doesn't fit with our apparent direction anyway. We got someone well suited to our needs, and he's an ender to boot. I'm sure that the Kings just became a better team. Not so sure that Philly did as well.
'89 Kings Fan
Bench
Absolutely an 'A'. Maybe Hawes' problem is a different coach every year, but he still had not seen any meaningful improvement since his rookie year. Plus I thought it was going to be impossible for us to move Noc's contract. It is ironic that we end up with Dalembert after the trade rumors back in the day for Hedo->Dalembert and they we ended up instead with Brad Miller.
kingofthejungle
G-League
A
Petrie gets my full endorsement. Tremendous deal. Nocioni was a malcontent with a toxic contract and Hawes' work ethic and general reliability was a liability. Dalembert provides the Kings with the low post defensive presence they have sorely needed and is an expiring contract to boot. I'm extremely impressed by this deal and think Petrie will somehow improve to A+ status if he manages to draft Cousins with the 5th pick and either Crawford or Varnado with the 33rd.
Imagine, for example:
Evans/Udrih
Garcia/Crawford
Greene/Casspi
Thompson/Landry
Cousins/Dalembert
Could you imagine a playoff-bound Kings team (see above) with about 20 million bucks left over to spend in free agency?
Petrie gets my full endorsement. Tremendous deal. Nocioni was a malcontent with a toxic contract and Hawes' work ethic and general reliability was a liability. Dalembert provides the Kings with the low post defensive presence they have sorely needed and is an expiring contract to boot. I'm extremely impressed by this deal and think Petrie will somehow improve to A+ status if he manages to draft Cousins with the 5th pick and either Crawford or Varnado with the 33rd.
Imagine, for example:
Evans/Udrih
Garcia/Crawford
Greene/Casspi
Thompson/Landry
Cousins/Dalembert
Could you imagine a playoff-bound Kings team (see above) with about 20 million bucks left over to spend in free agency?
Agreed all the way around.
I do feel just a bit sorry for Spencer, however. I wouldn't wish Phily fans on anyone.
kennadog
Dog On It!
No kidding! If he ever thought Kings fans were tough, he may be in for a very rude awakening.Agreed all the way around.
I do feel just a bit sorry for Spencer, however. I wouldn't wish Phily fans on anyone.
(Good to see you VF.
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Dreadnought
Bench
I disliked Spencer and I hated Nocioni. Dalembert is at worst, an expiring contract. This is a winning trade in all aspects for us. I'm even open to the idea of resigning Dalembert to a short, cheap contract if he decides he likes it here. I hope this does not impact GP's need to get a young, dominant center.
If anything, I think this trade emphasizes the need for the young, dominant center...and I suspect Petrie wants to be able to bring our future center along more slowly than what happened with Hawes. I'd like to see Sammy D. mentor a rookie and teach him all about defense, shot blocking, etc.
Chupacabra
Starter
I gave the trade an A. Like a few stated before me, this move cleared up the logjam at sf, gave minutes to our young wing players, addressed a HUGE need for the team, and added a nice chunk of cap room next year. Very deft move by Petrie. I like.
sactownsgreatest
Prospect
Great job by Geoff Petrie! We get a veteran big man that is tough, can play defense, and get those rebounds and not to mention is a nice guy off the court with all the charity stuff to Haiti. We lose Spencer Hawes a soft and inconsistant big man and Andres Nocioni the over payed , i want to get out of sacramento getting 2 DUI's. Now if we get Demarcus Cousins we have a very tough front court to compete with the elite teams. Grade A-
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sactownfan
Guest
Spencer hawes!!!!! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sactownfan
Guest
NOOOOOO!!!! Say its not true!!!!!!
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I was wondering when you were going to appear.
King-Da-Yah
Starter
Your worst nIghtmare come to fruition right bud!?? Lol
Excited about having Sammy D in the mix. A- all the way on this trade.
spencer is going no where
I love this trade.
Spencer had 3 years. He has gone no where. What makes you guys think he's going to develop. He had the talent but lacks drive and motor. He is just not physical enough for center. He could have hit the weight room hard but chose to cruise. He's naturally not very strong and has no heart so he's going to ride the bench the rest of his career. I believe that Cousins could have the same problem but the difference is that Cousins is already big and strong: 290 lbs and 7' 6" wingspan.
Nocioni is a victim of his own failure. He can't shoot, can't drive and can't play defense so good riddance.
Dalembert is big and strong and can block and rebound so I think that he is more useful and Favors. Beautiful trade. This sets up for Cousins, a proven scorer. If we can't get cousins they Wesley would be perfect. We need outside shooter.
I love this trade.
Spencer had 3 years. He has gone no where. What makes you guys think he's going to develop. He had the talent but lacks drive and motor. He is just not physical enough for center. He could have hit the weight room hard but chose to cruise. He's naturally not very strong and has no heart so he's going to ride the bench the rest of his career. I believe that Cousins could have the same problem but the difference is that Cousins is already big and strong: 290 lbs and 7' 6" wingspan.
Nocioni is a victim of his own failure. He can't shoot, can't drive and can't play defense so good riddance.
Dalembert is big and strong and can block and rebound so I think that he is more useful and Favors. Beautiful trade. This sets up for Cousins, a proven scorer. If we can't get cousins they Wesley would be perfect. We need outside shooter.
The Hammer
All-Star
A
Why? You have to look beyond just the talent swap, which we still come out ahead on. There is almost NO downside to this trade for us, and it gives us HUGE options capwise next year, rids us of the responsibility of paying for Spencer--Dalembert is probaby going to command roughly what Hawes will next year, and who would you rather have? It also rids us of Nocioni who had unfortunately become a stinker, even though he's good guy. PLUS it addresses our biggest needs, interior defense, shot blocking. Love this move. Love it. And love the timing.
We traded the two guys that I think needed to go, we gained cap flexibility which could also be used as a major trade piece, and we have the likely option of resigning him at a reasonable price. We killed a lot of birds with this stone. Gotta give the props to the Petrie.
We really could not afford to wait around for Spencer anymore. He still might be decent, but let him get there on someone else's dime. We're in go mode.
Wow. There isn't really anything I don't like about this trade.
Spencer's a good guy and I wish him well. Noc has made his money.
Why? You have to look beyond just the talent swap, which we still come out ahead on. There is almost NO downside to this trade for us, and it gives us HUGE options capwise next year, rids us of the responsibility of paying for Spencer--Dalembert is probaby going to command roughly what Hawes will next year, and who would you rather have? It also rids us of Nocioni who had unfortunately become a stinker, even though he's good guy. PLUS it addresses our biggest needs, interior defense, shot blocking. Love this move. Love it. And love the timing.
We traded the two guys that I think needed to go, we gained cap flexibility which could also be used as a major trade piece, and we have the likely option of resigning him at a reasonable price. We killed a lot of birds with this stone. Gotta give the props to the Petrie.
We really could not afford to wait around for Spencer anymore. He still might be decent, but let him get there on someone else's dime. We're in go mode.
Wow. There isn't really anything I don't like about this trade.
Spencer's a good guy and I wish him well. Noc has made his money.
Chupacabra
Starter
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
And he will also eat the entire contents of their pantry.
ElRey
Starter
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sactownfan
Guest
Weren't you the one who came up with the nickname Soggy Waffles? hahah
no i wasnt and for everyone that deemed that name as "inappropriate" again i didn't create it and it seriously meant .... his game was as bland as soggy waffles
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