[Game] Golden State Warriors (6) @ Sacramento Kings (3) (WCDS Game 7, 3-3) 4/30/2023 12:30pm Pacific 3:30pm Eastern (ABC)
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Impending failure of what KD trade? Last I checked they jumped from back in the pack to still in it. No, that shows you why sometimes "running it back" has some serious course alteration in the form of desperation on the horizon. The Suns are extremely fortunate their collapse came in a window where a KD was there to be had. For the teams that find the window closed? It's a long way down but a short ride. And the Gobert trade was laughed at by all sides the moment it went down. Bank on this, Monte wouldn't pull the trigger on a deal like that and NOBODY is advocating for that, but if anyone thinks that coming in with another all star added to this roster without having to sacrifice a Huerter, or a Barnes, or maybe even a Keegan or Davion as being anything other than a huge plus, well, it's a take. Monte set his own rules the day he said rebuilds ain't happening and now he has to keep going. It's worked thusfar. Playing it safe wasn't what got him to this point.
Re-signing Barnes becomes something of a culture question even more than it is about Xs/Os and strategy. Everyone in the organization from teammates and coaches up through the front office have been emphatic in praising Barnes for fostering positive locker room culture and being an invaluable veteran mentor.
What kind of message does it send to not only the young roster, but perhaps just as importantly, prospective free agents, to turn around and immediately kick that guy to the curb?
What kind of message does it send to not only the young roster, but perhaps just as importantly, prospective free agents, to turn around and immediately kick that guy to the curb?
Even at MLE for 4 years, what does that cap space look like when Huerter falls of the books? I think a selling point for Barnes could be something like the deal Harden signed with the Sixers where its wrapped into something that makes the team better with the expectation of he'll make it back in the long run. Barnes seems like that kind of Haslem style player that will help out when it comes to addition. Almost any deal that brings Barnes back straight across at a fair market value eliminates any major FA signing for the forseeable future anyway without trades. Once you have no reasonable space for a period of time because you re-sign players you have no reasonable space.
I'm down to resign Barnes if he's cool coming off the bench, and the contract reflects the reduced role. That role might be better for him, because he has a long history of disappearing when the pressure is on.
Hard to really dislike him because he's such a good guy, but we aren't going far with him as a starter.
Speeches are awesome, but 4/0/0/0/0/0 in a win or go home game with typical lackluster defense ain't it.
Hard to really dislike him because he's such a good guy, but we aren't going far with him as a starter.
Speeches are awesome, but 4/0/0/0/0/0 in a win or go home game with typical lackluster defense ain't it.
I agree that that is around his market value, but that wasn't really what I was asking. What I'm asking is, why are people assuming that that's what Barnes would ask for to stay? And my rationale is, Barnes has already gotten a ring, and he's already gotten a bag. If he's at a point where he feels like he still wants another of one or both of those, then he knows that the best way to get either is to leave Sacramento. I believe that if Barnes wants to stay with the Kings, it will be because he believes in what y'all are building, and he wants to be a part of it. And I think that he's smart enough to recognize that he can't do that if he re-signs for market.
There is no way that Cousins, even on his absolute best behaved days, would have kept his cool at any point in this series. There would have been a fight in game 2 and by fight I mean full out brawl. I defended Cousins for many years and I hate how his career has turned out (injuries, bad rep), but he would not have helped us. What a talent he was though. Such a shame he never really got out of his own way and of course the big injuries.
I'm not sure that Barnes is going to be able to command anywhere near $20M a year. Last offseason only six guys (Beal, LaVine, Harden, Ayton, Brunson and Simons) beat that number. Sexton, Nurkic, Dort, and Mitchell Robinson got between $15-20M. Portis only got $12M, Monk only got $10M. Barnes, at age 31 and coming off a 15.0/4.5/1.6 season feels like he should be coming in a lot closer to that $12-15M range than $20M.
What was the alternative? This was the danger of "running it back" and overpaying for someone like CP3 in particular. And heck, they made the conference finals! No first round exits there. C'mon we saw how tough it is 15 years ago or so and I'm gaining more respect for the non lean years Petrie by the day. Talk about a schooling in re-tooling. The great thing about having superstar level talent is that you can usually at some point find someone else to give you back what you gave up in some form. If Booker stays healthy and the Suns are topped out as fodder, some team will give the Suns a ransom back for Booker so I'm sure it'll work out if it's a question of the picks.
Agreed, the $20 mil per year was put out by someone else discussing a potential contract for Barnes or his potential replacement. Barnes made $18 mil this year, so I definitely don't see him getting $20 mil from anyone.
Oddly enough, I think HB's poor playoff performance may actually make it more likely he returns to the Kings on a team friendly contract. I can't see any team looking at HB and thinking, we need to sign HB, he's the "missing piece" to our championship puzzle. That being said, he will probably only get contract offers in the $12 mil per year or lower range.
HB's is worth more to the Kings than to any other team looking to add him in the off season. I just don't forsee any team throwing a real hefty contract his way. If the Kings can re-sign HB to a team friendly "starter/bench player" salary type contract, i.e. 2 or 3 years at $12 mil per, I think it could work out for both sides.
Oddly enough, I think HB's poor playoff performance may actually make it more likely he returns to the Kings on a team friendly contract. I can't see any team looking at HB and thinking, we need to sign HB, he's the "missing piece" to our championship puzzle. That being said, he will probably only get contract offers in the $12 mil per year or lower range.
HB's is worth more to the Kings than to any other team looking to add him in the off season. I just don't forsee any team throwing a real hefty contract his way. If the Kings can re-sign HB to a team friendly "starter/bench player" salary type contract, i.e. 2 or 3 years at $12 mil per, I think it could work out for both sides.
I wish that was the case and it’s what I would do if I was an NBA player in Barnes position. Ultimately his agent will get in his ear and remind him of injury risk and that the Kings will trade him the first opportunity they get if it improves the roster. Now you are playing out your 3 year deal with the Washington Wizards. I can guarantee Barnes will sign with a playoff contender whether it’s us or someone else however. He is a competitor.
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Seeing all this Curry did this nonsense in tweet and other highlights. "You ain't ready for this" mocks the beam, etc.
Like you just beat the Kings in the first round after 16 years out of the playoffs and you are a 4 time champ.
Guy is one of the best ever but a total embarrassment at the same time.
Like you just beat the Kings in the first round after 16 years out of the playoffs and you are a 4 time champ.
Guy is one of the best ever but a total embarrassment at the same time.
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