[Game] Golden State Warriors (6) @ Sacramento Kings (3) (WCDS Game 7, 3-3) 4/30/2023 12:30pm Pacific 3:30pm Eastern (ABC)
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They were pretty young. I know they had Gallo and Lou but Trae, Collins, Huerter, Capela(26) and I think Bogdan was 27. There was Reddish and Onkongwu.
I wasn’t suggesting our young guys could regress like I wasn’t talking about Atlanta’s young players regressing(even though a lot of theirs did)…I think basically all the Kings top players still have their best seasons ahead of them…even a steady guy like Domas has a lot of things that will be unlocked over the next couple of seasons.
I’m talking about keeping certain veterans around like Atlanta did and stagnating their growth…
Actually, forget Atlanta…
I’m merely trying to say I don’t think the Kings should bring HB back but I’m trying to say it indirectly for some reason.
I think they will bring him back simply because he might be a leader of the team, but I think doing so would greatly block some good possibilities for Keegan, the Kings building more depth at the wings, potentially bringing Vezenkov over or re-signing Trey. Which is why I referenced Atlanta and sentimentality.
But then again, Monte pulled the trigger of the Tyrese trade so maybe he’s not the sentimental type
I wasn’t suggesting our young guys could regress like I wasn’t talking about Atlanta’s young players regressing(even though a lot of theirs did)…I think basically all the Kings top players still have their best seasons ahead of them…even a steady guy like Domas has a lot of things that will be unlocked over the next couple of seasons.
I’m talking about keeping certain veterans around like Atlanta did and stagnating their growth…
Actually, forget Atlanta…
I’m merely trying to say I don’t think the Kings should bring HB back but I’m trying to say it indirectly for some reason.
I think they will bring him back simply because he might be a leader of the team, but I think doing so would greatly block some good possibilities for Keegan, the Kings building more depth at the wings, potentially bringing Vezenkov over or re-signing Trey. Which is why I referenced Atlanta and sentimentality.
But then again, Monte pulled the trigger of the Tyrese trade so maybe he’s not the sentimental type
I still think it's two trains of thought. If Monte wants to keep this as is? You have to bring back Barnes. You literally almost give yourself no other option. I can actually see Sasha leaving every other F on the team in the dust, but as a 27 year old rookie, you are definitely going all eggs in there. Monte has potentially 3 paths as a GM and that's all you can really ask for. His issue is time. He doesn't have a ton of it in terms of decisions because that cap will harden big time in the summer of 2024.
Also, one important distinction, which I'm very happy about and even slightly surprised to be able to say after just the first year with the new regime, is the culture we built under Mike Brown. We are a hardworking team where our players young and old respect each other, want the team to be successful, and work hard on their own to see it through.
This is why I think this roster won't be allowing this team to just take it easy and regress.
This is why I think this roster won't be allowing this team to just take it easy and regress.
I am talking CAP WISE. If Monte wants to be able to add without subtraction or even being loosey goosey as far as his roster in the interim then he's got to act sooner than later. In 2024 you'll have Fox and Domas taking up two max slots on your cap. If they'll be intending to add a big name then then they have to basically let Barnes go or sign him to a 1 year deal, expect player like Monk to be gone by that point, or trade Huerter and even then it's probably not much in the way of actual flexibility.
Suns fan here. Totally disappointed with the Kings loss today. by far my favorite team after the Suns. Hopefully the teams front office can bring in the piece/pieces the team needs to go farther. Huge accomplishment for the Kings this year. I know the fans are disappointed however, I enjoyed watching the team play. Kings will be getting great respect next year. Wear your Kings gear proudly!
Eh, I'm still hoping Monte shoots for someone like Siakam if he's going big. Or even Beal maybe. The benefit of LaVine is he might not hurt you much since he's probably replacing Huerter anyway. Or you could realistically even put him next to Red Velvet. Also, I would hope LaVine is gettable without touching Murray and/or maybe even Davion. IMO Siakam is the highest value target if the Raps are ready to finally quit F'ing around and get behind Scottie.
HB has not performed to the Playoffs level and that is not a secret. But he shouldn't be singled out because that would minimize two things, our other players' woe in this series, and the defensive effort the Warriors managed to put on us in general.
It might be easy to fall into hating HB like the Dubs fans reciting all his Playoffs woe, saying that HB can never make a decision-making final shot after Game 5 just because he had failed them before, forgetting all the last-minute shots he took.
This isn't NBA 2K Franchise mode.
It might be easy to fall into hating HB like the Dubs fans reciting all his Playoffs woe, saying that HB can never make a decision-making final shot after Game 5 just because he had failed them before, forgetting all the last-minute shots he took.
This isn't NBA 2K Franchise mode.
How many years is the question then? To me, I get Jason Thompson vibes with that plan. "Can't let this guy go". Uh, yeah you most certainly can. If this team were 58 wins I'm down. 48 with the teams behind teams 2 and 3 being right about their plan to bide their time is sketch as hell to me. Stagnate and you're probably stuck. I think that's an even worse gamble in terms of the low end. Sasha might be that good though, who knows. But if he is, Barnes and Lyles might be sitting over there on the bench with Holmes at some point.
The Kings will be in good shape, even if they retain Barnes, so long as they don't sign him to a long deal for big money. All they have to do on that front is make sure that they don't still owe him guaranteed money going into 2026. The more immediate concern is moving on from Holmes' contract, before his player option kicks in; that's the one that could impact the Kings' ability to extend Sabonis.
Ability to extend Sabonis? I don't even see that as an issue. That's going to happen at this point and it's going to cost big time. The issue is once you extend him or re-sign him, how do you add TO HIM and Fox. Almost nobody expected Monte to go all in on Fox but he did. Now that he did, it severely limits his abilities in some ways especially in terms of flexibility heading onward. I don't think anyone is expecting Monte to tear down this roster and it's feasible he can keep most of it intact while also making the next step kind of move. I'm going to give him enough credit to understand they did that on purpose. He's done well taking chances, now it's time to keep going IMO. Maybe LaVine, maybe Beal, etc. I do think not all the players in the mix are equal in terms of value though so it's up to a bunch of different factors. If Monte is deadset on keeping someone like Murray or Davion, or a pick here and there then it probably changes things. Maybe GM's think differently but I would imagine there is some gap in value between a Siakam and LaVine at this point.
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We are gonna have to tell him just how ready we are next year when he's sitting on the bench WATCHING the Playoffs.
We are gonna have to tell him just how ready we are next year when he's sitting on the bench WATCHING the Playoffs.
LOL, not sure if this is a joke but because you're not looking at the reason. I'm talking about assigning value to ancillary pieces to your roster and then watching them hamper your cap space. This all goes together. Would "Richaun Holmes" vibes, or "Kenny Thomas" vibes be more appropriate? I remember having some pretty direct conversations about moving Holmes last deadline too. Value is all based on result.
the bottom line is we don’t really have cap space anyway. If you don’t sign Barnes you have 20 mil to work with but who can you sign? The best potential upgrades are restricted free agents. Cam Johnson was traded in the Durant deal, would the nets let him walk for nothing? Grant Williams hasn’t been great this year, is he worth the 80 mil dollar gamble? I guess I just don’t see any freeagent options that for sure make us better. It has to happen through internal improvement (Plenty of the guys can get better), trades and the draft. I’m looking at 3 year deals, contracts that could still be moveable.
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