Apparently the rules state you can still catch and shoot with 0.3 s, so I don't know why he would tell all the players to pack the paint.
[Game] Game 9: Sacramento Kings @ Memphis Grizzlies, 11/13/14
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Apparently the rules state you can still catch and shoot with 0.3 s, so I don't know why he would tell all the players to pack the paint.
Yeah, the refs sure are helping the Knicks and Lakers win games...
SacTownGrantFan
Bench
And the ball was tipped by Hollins.
kingjatt
Starter
On a whim? Seriously?
What's laughable is people acting like thirty-odd minutes of bad defense can be hand-waved away by a questionable call, just because it happened to be particularly visible.
yeah on a whim, remember dallas? runs happen every night, the NBA is filled with amazing talent.
no whats really laughable is people saying a call is questionable and saying it was particularly visible in the same sentence. It was obvious incompetence by the refs which is unrelated to the play prior. Memphis fought hard to come back just as the kings fought hard to build the lead, that is a separate issue from the two missed calls on that final play.
Again its just my opinion.
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
Yeah, the refs sure are helping the Knicks and Lakers win games...
I never said they did.
They are still getting more media coverage than the Kings are, despite the difference in records though.
ElRey
Starter
Chuck Hayes got traded as part of a package to make a big trade work, not as an individual trade. Would any team want JT himself? We've been trying to trade him since last year. If we could somehow trade JT, I will be dancing that day! lol
I just wish Z-Bo's shot would have gone in and we could have lost this game with some dignity.
I give more credence to Kayte and Doug in this instance because they're the ones who've played the game, dealt with the frustrations, etc. Of course, I am totally struggling with 2002-flashback at the moment, so my POV is definitely suspect.
And you think that happened on a 'whim', do you? I'm not sure you know what the word 'whim' means.
Ah, I see now, it's a comprehension issue. Happy to explicate.
There was nothing inconsistent about the syntax of my sentence: I was not using "visible" as a synonym for "obvious." I meant "visible" as in, "a lot of people were watching it." The play was "particularly visible" because it was the last play of the game; and, since it was a one-point game, this causes many people to erroneously believe that this play, and this play alone, decided the outcome of the game. The play was "questionable" because there was some question as to the outcome of the play.
Hey, it's a free country; you have the right to your incorrect opinion.
Those two phenomena may be mutually exclusive, but I'm disinclined to go through however many hundreds of box scores to try and find out. I'm willing to wager, however, that in neither of their respective careers did they played through a stretch where they lost to a team playing without it's two best players, and then blew two 20+ point leads, in successive games.
That's what I mean by 'diminishing returns': there's a point at which "character building" becomes "spirit breaking." And, for a team that's gone through as much as this one has, I'm willing to speculate that that line is pretty damned fine.
fansinceday1
Starter
So your trying to argue that that last play, of a 1 point game, DIDN'T decide the game? Are you serious? It's the DECIDING PLAY. I guess I'm just erroneously believing that that was the deciding play...................
Way more went into that loss than that one play. That much is undisputed. What I am therefore 'arguing' is that it's facile to try and dilute the essence of the loss into that one play.
kingjatt
Starter
Runs happen suddenly? does that make it better? doesn't disprove my overall point.
oh and there is no question, (in my opinion) backed by video, the clock started late and the ball changed trajectory after being tipped and the call was incorrect due to incompetent officiating not due to any other play or plays that are unrelated to that call.
Yup ill stick to it.
If it were unquestionable, it would have been overturned in review. We wouldn't even got to the point of appeal. Personally, I think that the argument that the clock did not start is a much stronger case than the argument that you can't get a shot off in 0.3. Which, frankly, is false.
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
The thing is, the Kings won that game. It just isn't official. The NBA could even have the two teams replay the last 0.3 seconds. But it's about a 5% chance they do something like that.
Try a 0.00000000005% chance.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Heck, I'd settle for the NBA just saying "whoops" and letting it be. Simply carrying on like the situation was carried out perfectly isn't going to work.
Chubbs
Starter
You can get a shot off in 0.3. However, he did not accomplish that.
kingjatt
Starter
based on all of the replays, photos etc its unquestionable, the refs just blew it big time and did not conduct a proper review, we saw them spend more time on a foul call in the 1st quarter of a game here at sleep train than they did on that call. the kings can chose from multiple arguments to base their appeal, that's how badly and obviously it was blown.
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This is the likeliest outcome. Mike Bantom will release a statement that amounts to, "My bad."
fansinceday1
Starter
Geez thats just a kick in the nuts. "Whoops, we screwed up, sorry. But the play stands."
Id rather they just completely ignore us.
PHXSUNSFAN
Bench
Lol so Courtney Lee makes it here but missed that same shot on the biggest stage? Ok.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
He had less time to make it in that video.
jaysutton2003
G-League
I think the loss the way it happened will make the players stinger and hungrier.
Who the hell cares if the Kings played like crap after a BS Foul and tech was called on Cousins? The Kings DESERVED to win this game fair and square. It's amazing how much people talk down our team! This should've been our W...but I hope it wakes up the 2nd unit. When Cousins isn't out there, our entire team is a complete mess.... bench needs to step up. Especially Sessions and Stauskas.
randymoss1881
Starter
Love what kenny smith said.
We found out how to play the right way for us and it's working we just need to learn to finish. That's a positive we atleast know with a bench we are a playoff team.
We found out how to play the right way for us and it's working we just need to learn to finish. That's a positive we atleast know with a bench we are a playoff team.
Showtime
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They deserved the loss. They blew a huge lead in the second half, bricked two FT's at the end of the game (even the Grizz announcers thought it was over), and then totally blew coverage and an 'oop. They did everything they could not to put a W on their record tonight. Winners find way to close out 50/50 games.
We didn't deserve the loss. This was a win. I guess we need Mike Perara in the house for the refs. It's like telling me we didn't deserve the W vs the Suns, so it doesn't count. It all counts. This should've been our W. Stupid refs.
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
They don't even need to "help" us win. Just do their damn jobs right and we win.Yeah, the refs sure are helping the Knicks and Lakers win games...
Pretty sure i'd be unemployed if i made errors of this magnitude
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