His name is
Omri.
Casspi.
And yes, he's starter quality. Was easily our 2nd best player last year.
His name is
Omri.
Casspi.
And yes, he's starter quality. Was easily our 2nd best player last year.
lwc
Starter
All of these Rondo rumors about meeting with all of these teams basically prove to me that Vlade made an offer and refuses to budge. Basically he said "here's what I'm offering. Go test the market and come back to me if you get a better offer and I'll consider whether or not to raise my original." Rondo seems to be desperate for the money more than the situation.
Granted, I'm never going to hate on somebody for going for the money especially in a profession where most people are done making money before they are 40.
Granted, I'm never going to hate on somebody for going for the money especially in a profession where most people are done making money before they are 40.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Sam Amick: On the Kings’ front, worth noting that they wasted no time in reaching out to free agent forward Ryan Anderson (9:01 am PT last night).
60 mins ago – via Twitter sam_amick
Sam Amick: The Sacramento native has interest in playing for his hometown team, but Kings just one of at least four serious suitors (Rockets another).
60 mins ago – via Twitter sam_amick
James Ham: Hearing that the Sacramento Kings are still in the mix for free agent Ryan Anderson.
60 mins ago – via Twitter James_Ham
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
3-big rotation. Anderson has been a 6th man for years.
But yes, the SF possibility looms just because we like to see Vlade trying to recreate the Golden era Kings and Anderson playing the Peja role.
White_Chocolate
Starter
I hope so
Hoovtrain
All-Star
Harrison Montague@harrisonmontagu
@teamziller @SactownRoyalty my cousin just saw vlade and Peja at the airport. On a plane for the next few hours.
Interesting. Wonder what Vlade is up to?
- Tom Ziller @teamziller 32m32 minutes ago
@harrisonmontagu Headed for where?
Harrison Montague @harrisonmontagu 29m29 minutes ago
@teamziller off to Los Angeles... The plot thickens
I thought @harrisonmontagu meant we were getting Barnes and Ellis
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
er, no, not really. Started strong. Went to pot late. Year before was interesting, but now there's a question how much of it was Karl's system too.
You could slot him in at SF as a roleplayer I think, but you better pick up a stud in the backcourt to make up for it. Or I suppose Anderson up front. But it still leaves us without anybody to pick up the slack when Cuz leaves. Bunch of roleplayers and spotshooters.
Until we trade for Monta or Dion at least.
Livinthedream
All-Star
I disagree that he is starter quality. Had a good year, yes. But it was also in a system that favored him.
Iced Espresso
Starter
Knicks and Bucks going to talk with Wade....
I guess with this type of money on the table anything is possible.
I guess with this type of money on the table anything is possible.
Marc J. Spears @MarcJSpearsESPN Along with Bulls, Rajon Rondo had previous interest in Knicks & Nets but both have landed PGs. RR also open minded about Kings-Cuz reunion.
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
I used to dislike the idea of Rondo returning... until I heard we were linked with Waiters and Anderson
The Pikmin Lord
Prospect
Omri Casspi is not a starting SF and never will be. He's a great roleplayer to have off the bench, and that's it. I know people are infatuated with his heart and hustle and tend to overrate him, but if your team is starting Omri Casspi at SF, you've got problems.
fansinceday1
Starter
Maybe headed down there to finalize a cousins trade?Harrison Montague@harrisonmontagu
@teamziller @SactownRoyalty my cousin just saw vlade and Peja at the airport. On a plane for the next few hours.
Interesting. Wonder what Vlade is up to?
- Tom Ziller @teamziller 32m32 minutes ago
@harrisonmontagu Headed for where?
@teamziller off to Los Angeles... The plot thickens
http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2016/07/01/report-raptors-met-ryan-anderson-friday/
It just says that the Raps were at a Beverly Hills hotel or somewhere meeting up Ryno.
Iced Espresso
Starter
Extorting gold bars from the Lakers before accepting?
Well people are thrilled about starting Crabbe next year so let's compare their numbers:
Casspi: 11.8 pts (48.1 FG%, 40.9 3pt%), 5.9 reb, 1.4 ast, 0.8 stl, 0.2 blk and 1.4 TO's in 27.2 minutes. PER 13.96, RPM +0.96 (16th amongst SF's)
Crabbe: 10.3 pts (45.9 FG%, 39.4 3pt%), 2.7 reb, 1.2 ast, 0.8 stl, 0.2 blk and 0.8 TO's in 26.0 minutes. PER 12.26, RPM -2.40 (68th amongst SG's)
So on almost the exact same playing time Casspi has better shooting%, scores 1.5 more points, grabs 3.2 more rebounds, 0.2 more assits, identical block and steals numbers, better PER and far better RPM.
And I'm not saying that I don't like Crabbe or that I'm advocating for Casspi to be our permanent starter- but guys here are hyped about making guys with similar or lesser production starters so claiming he will never be a starter is ridiculous.
The difference between someone using facts to back up their claims and well.. not . Casspi is about an ideal fit as you can put next to a big like Cousins (Great spot up shooter, high energy, good defense, stays out of the way, great rebounder), but once again people only go by their perception of "Oh, there's no way Casspi's a starter" rather than what he actually did on the court.
Easily?
I'd maybe buy "arguably." And that's throwing all the shade at Rudy Gay and Rajon Rondo. "Easily?" Nah, I can't for that.
Well, stats really don't tell you the whole story here. Crabbe is ready to breakout from Lillard/McCollum. Casspi has been in the league for 7 years, and we already know what his role is. Hell, the reason why he left in the first place was because of the refusal to accept his role. The rest of his career after Sacramento really gave him a harsh reality check.
You can't just put up numbers without the context. It's really unfair to Omri too.
I think Omri can be a starting SF, but he'd have a lot of trouble on defense. He has the length to guard SFs, but he doesn't have the strength. If you ask him to bulk up, I think he'll lose a significant amount of quickness, which will hamper his ability to finish at the rim. Omri is a guy who really excels in the 2nd unit, because he's can play more freely. I don't know that he'd be able to play as loosely as he does with starters.
If Omri is our starting SF, we better have an elite PG or SG who can score. If we take Gay off our team, we arguably have no real #2 and #3 scoring option. DC is a fringe #3 scorer....
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
The difference is we are hyped for potentially getting Crabbe because he would fill an extreme position of need.
Noble
Bench
No way I would trade Gay for Monta or Stuckey. At that point just overpay for Rondo and keep Gay.
I honestly don't know why we want to mess up our 3-5 with Gay/WCS/Cuz, 2 out of the 3 are 20ppg players and the other one is a freak of nature athlete that can guard 3-5 at any point in the game. Those three would be our "core" and we should look to add to them. Both Cuz and Gay are Olympians, have very good half court games, and carry this team.
I honestly don't know why we want to mess up our 3-5 with Gay/WCS/Cuz, 2 out of the 3 are 20ppg players and the other one is a freak of nature athlete that can guard 3-5 at any point in the game. Those three would be our "core" and we should look to add to them. Both Cuz and Gay are Olympians, have very good half court games, and carry this team.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Do you notice the smart teams, Spurs, GSW, Cleveland have not made all these outrageous contracts to mid-tier Free Agents.
They are waiting it out and will pick up some smart Free Agent bargains after a week or two.
I think it is best to wait until the dust settles and pay players what they are worth, rather than overpaying just because you have cap space.
Please, Vlade, DON'T Panic. Please don't get caught up in this absurd spending and wait it out and spend wisely!!!
Bad contracts will handcuff teams for years to come, especially small market teams.
IN VLADE WE TRUST (I HOPE)!!!
I think there may be a difference between those teams and the Kings. I'm trying to think what it might be. Hmmm...
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
I think it goes back to what I was saying prior and people want us to make trades for the sake of making one just to say that "x" player will be better than "y" player and then when that isn't the case, end up with another disappointing season.
The Pikmin Lord
Prospect
Based on those stats, Crabbe's wasn't starting caliber last year either. He's younger, fills a position of need, and may be ready to break out so that's why people are somewhat high on him.
As far as Casspi's production goes, yes he's a great spot up shooter and high energy guy, but I also see him through the eye test as a low BBIQ, out of control player who forces the issue way too much. I also completely disagree about him playing good defense. I was just as frustrated with him last year as I was with some of the other guys.
Livinthedream
All-Star
The issue, especially with SG, is that you're not going to find someone significantly better than what we have in the FA market that is going to sign here. So you're either going to have draft and develop, or you're going to have to make a trade. Again, to trade for someone significantly better than what we have, you're going to have to give up something of value. Which will just create another hole. If we don't have time to develop a draft pick, then we're just going to have to decide where we want that hole in our lineup to be.
Kingfanpaul
Starter
7m7 minutes ago
Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixYS
New Orleans among the teams expressing interest in Rajon Rondo, league sources told @TheVertical. Rondo led the NBA in assists last season
Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixYS
New Orleans among the teams expressing interest in Rajon Rondo, league sources told @TheVertical. Rondo led the NBA in assists last season
