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#91
Seems that NO will match. It's definitely overpaying, but I guess they don't want to lose him for nothing considering he was the main piece back in the Paul trade.
 

hrdboild

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#92
Gordon to the Suns huh? I didn't see that coming. But New Orleans gave up a lot to get Gordon. It's going to be tough for them to sell tickets next year if they don't match that offer sheet and let Gordon go for nothing.
 
#93
Gordon to the Suns huh? I didn't see that coming. But New Orleans gave up a lot to get Gordon. It's going to be tough for them to sell tickets next year if they don't match that offer sheet and let Gordon go for nothing.
Suns need a new face when Nash leaves and they also have a glaring hole at SG. If they can't get Gordon, IMO, we should try to offer them Thornton (a poor man's Gordon without D), for Dudley and Lopez. Dudley could fill nicely our SF spot while Lopez could boost up front if JT leaves. Then we resign TWill and claim Calderon after his amnestied.

We get:
PG - IT/Calderon/Jimmer
SG - Evans/TWill/Garcia
SF - Dudley/Salmons/Honeycutt
PF - TRob/Hayes
C - DMC/Whiteside/Lopez
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#94
Suns need a new face when Nash leaves and they also have a glaring hole at SG. If they can't get Gordon, IMO, we should try to offer them Thornton (a poor man's Gordon without D), for Dudley and Lopez. Dudley could fill nicely our SF spot while Lopez could boost up front if JT leaves. Then we resign TWill and claim Calderon after his amnestied.

We get:
PG - IT/Calderon/Jimmer
SG - Evans/TWill/Garcia
SF - Dudley/Salmons/Honeycutt
PF - TRob/Hayes
C - DMC/Whiteside/Lopez


All of these wild contracts might highlight actually why we end up NOT moving Thornton. He's comes incredibly cheap compared to other 20pt scoring guys right now. There are reasons for some of that, but I don't even want to hear about how Eric Gordon is worth twice as many $$ as Marcus.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#95
Suns need a new face when Nash leaves and they also have a glaring hole at SG. If they can't get Gordon, IMO, we should try to offer them Thornton (a poor man's Gordon without D), for Dudley and Lopez. Dudley could fill nicely our SF spot while Lopez could boost up front if JT leaves. Then we resign TWill and claim Calderon after his amnestied.

We get:
PG - IT/Calderon/Jimmer
SG - Evans/TWill/Garcia
SF - Dudley/Salmons/Honeycutt
PF - TRob/Hayes
C - DMC/Whiteside/Lopez
Last time I checked Gordon wasn't exactly Doug Christie out there on D
 
#97
Hawks are shredding contracts right now. It might mean Josh Smith is available for an expiring and a pick. He could probably work out at the three.
Smith could work out at the 3 besides the fact that he can't shoot consistently and chucks up a lot of wasted shots. He does offer defense and rebounding. But the Hawks will not deal him. That Joe Johnson move and Marvin Williams for Harris move were great moves that the Hawks did. I wish the Kings unloaded somebody for Harris instead of having to guess if its IT or Evans at the point.

Josh Smith is one of Howard's closes friends. He is the draw. They got Harris which makes either Teague or Harris expendable with Horford for Howard but probably only if Howard signs a max deal before being traded.

In terms of the Nets, they are real suckers over there.
 
#98
Suns need a new face when Nash leaves and they also have a glaring hole at SG. If they can't get Gordon, IMO, we should try to offer them Thornton (a poor man's Gordon without D), for Dudley and Lopez. Dudley could fill nicely our SF spot while Lopez could boost up front if JT leaves. Then we resign TWill and claim Calderon after his amnestied.

We get:
PG - IT/Calderon/Jimmer
SG - Evans/TWill/Garcia
SF - Dudley/Salmons/Honeycutt
PF - TRob/Hayes
C - DMC/Whiteside/Lopez

Is there a rumor Calderon will get amnestied? Because I thought the Raptors really liked him since he fit well in their Euro ball type style. I'd assume Calderon will just go to the bench if they get Nash but his minutes will still be in tact since Nash doesn't play excessive minutes unless it is in important games. They will probably just let Beyless go to whatever team offers him a contract in that scenario. Not a huge fan of Robin Lopez but the trade for him and Dudley make sense. It just doesn't really excite me to lose Thornton for that though.
 
#99
Camby's peeps have also said today he's got a list of 5 teams he's interested in, and the ket factor is that they are all contenders.
I am guessing Celtics and Heat are really high on that list, maybe Pacers too. Doubt the Kings are contenders, especially with the Maloofs leaching off the team.
 
This already is frustrating to watch.

1) Seeing team put a premium on defending with Hibbert/Asik offers.

2) Seeing the market value for bigs being set and JT will most likely get a substancial offer.

3) Even a team like Minn is rumored to be after Brandon Roy, Jamal Crawford, Greg Steisma and Batum. That's aggressive and wanting to improve.
This team is owned by the Maloofs. Not sure how you wouldn't expect it to be frustrating? I even fear that Evans and Cousins will bolt when they get the chance and you can't really blame them. Minny always has looked to contend if they had the right piece in place. They have Rubio and Love and if it wasn't for injuries would have been in serious contention for a West playoff spot. So of course they will go all out.
 
JT, IMO, is a better player than Asik. So there is a good chance that his agent would make this amount as JT's floor. If that's the case, I can't see the Maloofs holding on to JT.

They're more likely to trade with Houston to get one of their dozen PF with possibly IT or Outlaw as the trade piece.
Maybe no one in the NBA has taken notice of Kings players so we can keep JT.........
 
Since Dragic has a good chance of leaving the Rockets, I think this is the time to pursue Lowry. The Rockets now need a PG. Throw in Jimmer/IT with MT and maybe Salmons/Greene/Garcia/Hayes for Lee and Lowry.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
Since Dragic has a good chance of leaving the Rockets, I think this is the time to pursue Lowry. The Rockets now need a PG. Throw in Jimmer/IT with MT and maybe Salmons/Greene/Garcia/Hayes for Lee and Lowry.
I really think you need to lighten up on the alcohol, get sober, and then read what you just posted.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
Since Dragic has a good chance of leaving the Rockets, I think this is the time to pursue Lowry. The Rockets now need a PG. Throw in Jimmer/IT with MT and maybe Salmons/Greene/Garcia/Hayes for Lee and Lowry.
First off, you can't trade for a free agent (Lee). Second, if the Rockets need a point guard, why would they trade their borderline all-star up-and-coming one for an undersized one, one of our superbloated deals (Donte's no longer on the team by the way, so I have no clue why you've listed him there) and yet another two-guard? They already have Martin and just spent a lottery pick on Lamb. I know Morey has recently been on a streak of sorts but that would make no sense unless. Third, why would we do this deal?
 

hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
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Isn't Houston about to give Linsanity a $30 million dollar contract? That pretty much guarantees he's the starter doesn't it? And I'll continue to believe that Lowry is on the trading block until I hear otherwise. They were shopping him like he was going out of style the week of the draft. On the other hand, like Brick said earlier I'm a little more hesitant to offer Thornton in a trade now since his relative value is getting better by the day.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
Hawes resigning with the Sixers. 2 years 13 million dollars. A bargain compared to Asik.

Wonder if that deal is more in line with what JT will get
 
Hawes resigning with the Sixers. 2 years 13 million dollars. A bargain compared to Asik.

Wonder if that deal is more in line with what JT will get
i hope so. a deal like this seems a little more reasonable. maybe add a team option 3rd or even 4th year at around 6 million/year
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
Isn't Houston about to give Linsanity a $30 million dollar contract? That pretty much guarantees he's the starter doesn't it? And I'll continue to believe that Lowry is on the trading block until I hear otherwise. They were shopping him like he was going out of style the week of the draft. On the other hand, like Brick said earlier I'm a little more hesitant to offer Thornton in a trade now since his relative value is getting better by the day.
I really don't know if Lowery is on the block now or not. Supossedly Houston had a deal in place with Dragic, but that seems to have fallen through. I can't see them trading Lowery until they've aquired a legit PG to take his place. I don't know if they would consider IT in that catagory or not. Its no secret that Lowery wants out, but he's under contract right now, so what he wants is immaterial. Remember, they were doing everything they could to land enough first round picks to aquire Howard. Thats by the wayside now, so they may be looking at Lowery in a different light.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
Hawes resigning with the Sixers. 2 years 13 million dollars. A bargain compared to Asik.

Wonder if that deal is more in line with what JT will get
I think the money per year is about right, but I'm sure that JT wants a four year deal, and the Kings probably do as well.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I really don't know if Lowery is on the block now or not. Supossedly Houston had a deal in place with Dragic, but that seems to have fallen through. I can't see them trading Lowery until they've aquired a legit PG to take his place. I don't know if they would consider IT in that catagory or not. Its no secret that Lowery wants out, but he's under contract right now, so what he wants is immaterial. Remember, they were doing everything they could to land enough first round picks to aquire Howard. Thats by the wayside now, so they may be looking at Lowery in a different light.
Dragic leaving = Lowry stays

BUT

Linsanity coming = Lowry leaves


Basically Lowry wants to start. If the Rockets sign anybody else to start, Lowry will need to be moved. Now if the Rockets aren't able to sign anybody else, I suppose its possible Lowry might still need to leave if he's serious about not being able to work with McHale (who despite being a very knowledgible and jovial TV analyst appears to be pretty good at pissing players off as a coach). But if the Rockets have to move him under those circumstances, you would have to give them a starting PG back, which in this case would likely mean IT.
 
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Dragic leaving = Lowry stays

BUT

Linsanity coming = Lowry leaves


Basically Lowry wants to start. If the Rockets sign anybody else to start, Lowry will need to be moved. Now if the Rockets aren't able to sign anybody else, I suppose its possible Lowry might still need to leave if he's serious about not being able to work with McHale (whodespite being a very knowledgible and jovial TV analyst appears to be pretty good at pissing players off as a coach). But if the Rockets have to move him uynder those circumstances, you would have to give them a PG back, which in this case would likely mean IT.
Hayes for Lowery !
 
Morey is going to keep shuffling the deck until he can wheel and deal his way to get a star. So far he's come up empty, but Lowry has to be one of his most meaningful pieces to facilitate that goal. Until then they are a heap of middling vets and prospects. No all-stars, no high draft picks. Ugh.

If they sign Lin and can't get another star maybe an IT + Hayes + ? might bring back Lowry. Would be a huge boost for us IMO and finally solidify the back court. Add in AK and all of a sudden everyone can play good to great man D.
 
Dragic leaving = Lowry stays

BUT

Linsanity coming = Lowry leaves


Basically Lowry wants to start. If the Rockets sign anybody else to start, Lowry will need to be moved. Now if the Rockets aren't able to sign anybody else, I suppose its possible Lowry might still need to leave if he's serious about not being able to work with McHale (who despite being a very knowledgible and jovial TV analyst appears to be pretty good at pissing players off as a coach). But if the Rockets have to move him under those circumstances, you would have to give them a starting PG back, which in this case would likely mean IT.
Lowry has publicly stated that he does not want to play for Kevin McHale. Lowry will be traded.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
I hate the lakers...so very very much
Question remains of how much Nash has left in his tank though. He wasn't necessarily as good last season as he was before. Combine that with Kobe, Gasol, and Artest all entering the declining years of their careers and it remains to be seen how things will work out, especially considering the fact that both Kobe and Nash need the ball in their hands to be effective.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Lowry has publicly stated that he does not want to play for Kevin McHale. Lowry will be traded.
He can publicly state all he wants, but unless the Rockets either sign another PG (and with Nash off the market Lin might become a bigger Knick priority again) or get a starting one back in trade, they are not going to move him. So depending on free agency we might have to approach any such deal knowing IT and Hayes is the price.
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
Jason Jones
Latest word is the Kings' multi-year offer to Jason Thompson would start with a salary of about $6 million in the first year. As I expected, more than Chuck Hayes, less than Marcus Thornton. Still working on the specifics of the deal. Well maybe I'm full and I'll take a nap instead.



So, 6M per year and probably goes up a little. Not too much. About as high as I'd go. Will be interesting to see if JT gets better offers. Also Jason Jones has got to be the laziest beat writer in the league. No kidding he'll take a nap. All he does is sleep on the job.
 
Jason Jones
Latest word is the Kings' multi-year offer to Jason Thompson would start with a salary of about $6 million in the first year. As I expected, more than Chuck Hayes, less than Marcus Thornton. Still working on the specifics of the deal. Well maybe I'm full and I'll take a nap instead.



So, 6M per year and probably goes up a little. Not too much. About as high as I'd go. Will be interesting to see if JT gets better offers. Also Jason Jones has got to be the laziest beat writer in the league. No kidding he'll take a nap. All he does is sleep on the job.
he's a laker fan, what do you expect?
 
Jason Jones
Latest word is the Kings' multi-year offer to Jason Thompson would start with a salary of about $6 million in the first year. As I expected, more than Chuck Hayes, less than Marcus Thornton. Still working on the specifics of the deal. Well maybe I'm full and I'll take a nap instead.



So, 6M per year and probably goes up a little. Not too much. About as high as I'd go. Will be interesting to see if JT gets better offers. Also Jason Jones has got to be the laziest beat writer in the league. No kidding he'll take a nap. All he does is sleep on the job.
Somewhere between 6-7 million per would be about as high as I would go as well.