Hadlowe
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The big question for me is whether that is a legitimate improvement in his shot or if he is having an extended good streak and will come back down to earth as the season progresses.
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The big question for me is whether that is a legitimate improvement in his shot or if he is having an extended good streak and will come back down to earth as the season progresses.
Thornton, McLemore, future pick for Noah and Cousins' best friend Dunleavy.
Bulls get a young guy in McLemore, save $4 mill over the next 2 years, which would save them more if they are in the luxury tax. They get to hopefully tank for a lottery pick this year. And they really shed salary when guys like Love, Hibbert, Brook Lopez, Kyrie and Rubio could be on the open market.
Bulls get a young guy in McLemore, save $4 mill over the next 2 years, which would save them more if they are in the luxury tax. They get to hopefully tank for a lottery pick this year. And they really shed salary when guys like Love, Hibbert, Brook Lopez, Kyrie and Rubio could be on the open market.
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KingMilz
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We better off getting Gibson he's a elite defender and has some nice post moves and a jumper, plus fits next to Cousins cause he's highly athletic long body to.
TheBadGuy
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What the team needs right now is a perimeter defender, JT can hold his own against all-star caliber post players/big men.I've always had a man crush on Noah. So I want him !
He's still a terrible help and weak side defender. Plus Noah will actually communicate.
A lot of us around here wanted Noah all along. Shame he was taken the pick before we ended up with Hawes, but that's the way it goes.
We aren't gonna get Noah. That's one of those things that only happens in fantasy leagues.
TheBadGuy
Bench
Do you think the Bulls would trade Noah to the Kings? Do the Kings have any players except Cousins that the Bulls is interested? If I were the GM of the Bulls I wouldn't give my best big man in exchange for some scrubs.
A lot of us around here wanted Noah all along. Shame he was taken the pick before we ended up with Hawes, but that's the way it goes.
We aren't gonna get Noah. That's one of those things that only happens in fantasy leagues.
Also a shame that Hawes didn't work out for us here with those excuses for coaches that we had. Defense aside, one could argue that a Hawes/ Cuz frontcourt could be very reminiscent of Webber/Divac, with some unique differences of course.
Hadlowe
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MassachusettsKingsFan
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A lot of us around here wanted Noah all along. Shame he was taken the pick before we ended up with Hawes, but that's the way it goes.
We aren't gonna get Noah. That's one of those things that only happens in fantasy leagues.
Always find it interesting to go back and look at the whole 'Hawes' thing. You know, he's actually a decent player. Still only 25. 14 PPG, 9 REB, 1.6 BLK, 3 AST and .436 from 3.
He's not Noah, but he's also not bad. Not a terrible pick for GP. I think we gave up on him a little too soon.
whozit
Starter
Just make sure every year is a contract year.
Hadlowe
Starter
I am not opposed to stretch 4's on principle, but I do not like stretch 5s whether they be named Sabonis, Perkins, or Hawes. Part of a big man's job is to clean up the misses and you can't do that when you're the one throwing up junk from the perimeter.
CruzDude
Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
Well, not so sure about that. Perimeter defenders at PG/SG yes. Biggest need I see is for a rim defender, a shot blocker who alters layup drills and can score 5-10 pts. What we hoped Ndiaye would become. Someone to complement Cuz. JT is 2/3 of what they need. Gimme a JT with hops and rim protection.
From my GM/Coach couch, beer in hand, lets see what Jimmer and McCallum can do gaining bigger minutes. Jimmer shows better defense than IT right now and we know nothing about McCallum yet. Kings are rebuilding with youth. They are youth. To develop they both gradually need minutes on the floor. Its all about developing a defensive culture which will take a year and a half minimum no matter who the Kings have. I think Gay, DWill and Acy will come along as a nice core group as well. Maybe even Outlaw.
Hadlowe
Starter
A couple of minor quibbles.
Jimmer's defensive stats are still pretty bad. I think he is generally in the right place defensively but he lacks the athletic ability to actually make the defensive play. At best, he is a "team defense" guy, but that doesn't work so well when the team defense is breaking down at 2 other positions on the floor. On the Spurs, he would probably be fine (Gary Neal is a slower Jimmer and did fine there last year in ten-fifteen minute stints.) On the Kings, his weakness is just amplified.
McCallum looked good in summer league and preseason on defense, but his garbage time minutes have not been impressive at all, small sample size notwithstanding. My enthusiasm is somewhat tempered there.
I like what Gray and Acy bring off the bench, depending on matchups. Two very different looks as backup bigs. If Acy were a few inches taller, I would want him starting right now. As it is, he might take minutes from JT down the road, but he'll have to show he can pull down rebounds at a better rate. Defensively he is no slouch, so I have hope there.
And yet Hawes is leading the Sixers averaging 9 rebounds in 32 minutes (after Cousins our next leading rebounder is JT who would average about 8/32). Also not really junk when you consider that he's shooting almost 43% from 3... IMO his coach knows his strengths and has found a way to utilize them. Back to the topic..
GoodOldDouwe
G-League
I would love Hinrich on this team, he'll be a free agent after this year. Hinrich is a leader, who's tough as nails, very good defender, good shooter and a solid playmaker. He could be the guy that starts games, with someone like IT coming off the bench. The only downside are his injury problems, he has been in and out of the line-up the last couple of years, missing 22 games last year and already missed 8 this year. In my opinion, looking at his skills (defender, leadership, experienced), he would be the perfect fit for this young team.
Hadlowe
Starter
He has also lost a few steps over the last couple of injury-plagued years. He isn't the defender he once was and is a nullity on the offensive side of the court. Much of that is covered up by the strength of Chicago's defensive schemes and their talented defensive wings and big-men.
I like Hinrich as a player, but his days as a starting point guard are probably over.
Chupacabra
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bajaden
Hall of Famer
Not counting the current season, over the last four seasons Noah has averaged playing in 6o games out of 82 games, and that's not counting playoff games. He's been injured every year in the last four years, and will probably be injured again this year. He's 28 years old going on 35. He's not durable, and its not going to improve as he gets older. If I don't have to give up much to get him, fine, but I'm not giving up young players with potential to get him.
And I'll say this for the last time. So pay attention! We can't trade any of our first round picks until we finalize the deal we made, trading our first round pick to Cleveland.
Can still trade a future pick though.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Not until the 2018/19 season. Unless of course we find a way to finalize the deal we made with the Cav's. One way or the other.
re: Noah and draft rights
Wonder if Chicago, Cleveland and the Kings could work a deal that moves the Kings' draft rights Cleveland has to Chicago, along with Bynum and the option to end his contract (thus saving Chicago money) while sending Noah to the Kings, while the Kings send a Thornton or JT package to the Cavs.
Wonder if Chicago, Cleveland and the Kings could work a deal that moves the Kings' draft rights Cleveland has to Chicago, along with Bynum and the option to end his contract (thus saving Chicago money) while sending Noah to the Kings, while the Kings send a Thornton or JT package to the Cavs.
And why would Chicago give up Noah?
You can talk about moving Noah in trades but to think we'd get him for chump change is just silly. Even if Chicago wants to get rid of him, they're gonna be able to do better than a draft pick and a player who might or might not even start on other squads.
It would be part of an overhaul for Chicago. They could move Noah and Deng, be able to trade for Asik, get the Sac draft rights, dump salary with Bynum, and add someone like Thornton or Lin to carry scoring for the season. They could maybe even get another pick out of Cleveland for Deng.
TheBadGuy
Bench
Why would the Raptors trade Lowry for MT? I think the Raptors doesn't need another scorer because they already have DeRozan which is far better than MT.
