kingsboi
Hall of Famer
Anthony Black should be the target, he's just waiting to blossom as a full time starter
Fischer: Kings willing to trade anyone except Keegan and Nique
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I think the only way we get him is in a Domas deal and I would be good with that. Would have to start working on getting salaries matched up in a deal and know that Orlando gave away first rounders to Memphis but guys like Black are who we should be pinpointing in any Domas deal
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
I don't see Orlando parting with Black for a Sabonis deal. he's getting better and better with more playing time and they can get better value in return, but I see no reason for Orlando to part ways unless they can't afford to sign him to an extension because of Paolo and Franz contracts
I just don’t see how they could make the money work? Maybe some complex multi team trade.
Trading LaVine, for taller, much worse LaVine, albeit, at 40% the cost is certainly something
Depends what the rest looks like, but like you said, i want 30+ MPG for Nique. If this LaVine deals accomplishes that, without us taking back longer term money, id be in
MizzouKing
Starter
Or in other words, What would make trading for a buck make cents?
MizzouKing
Starter
I'm on Team Keon also, but part of me wonders if the more knowledgeable professionals haven't seen some deficiencies in his game that we don't. If that were the case, it would make sense to make the moves (or lack thereof) that make his contract super desirable, while limiting his playing time to reduce the chances that interested parties will see it too.
Or they could just be giant boneheads...
Shaqfuey
Bench
Even though it's all relative on the Kings, there are defensive deficiencies despite being viewed by many as a plus defender. Keon can be bullied by larger guards and blown past by quicker guards. His "recovery" is to foul. He's outstanding at anticipating and playing the passing lanes, but he's not Davion Mitchell as an on-ball defender.
BuddyBuckets
Bench
The problem is he isnt a RFA. In the case of a Kuminga, Thomas, etc.. We saw that these guys didn't have a massive market last year, and then their teams tried to get them to sign for discounts.
Well Keon was already in that potential position last deadline. We could have opted him to a RFA, and allowed the market (when no teams had cap space btw) to set the price. At worst we would have had him back for MLE money. At best, maybe some team friendly 3/30 type deal.
This was mismanagement, and still is. It's going to sting like all the rest of them when hes locked into the top 6-7 of a solid playoff team and we are watching him on NBC in May
I still think it might be hard to trade Lavine midseason, given the contract and all of the potential cap restrictions for teams. But if you could manage to pull off three trades we have been hearing about, I think it is a successful first step:
1) Domas/Keon for a Kuminga/Moody and draft capital package
2) Demar for Collins
3) Russ for second round draft capital
You suddenly have a midseason roster of:
Collins/Max/Eubanks
Kuminga/Precious
Keegan/Moody
Lavine/Clifford
Schroeder/Monk/Carter
That is suddenly a young, long, diverse frontcourt. The oldest guy (by far) is Collins, and he is only 28. Given what we have seen, I would love to keep Precious as a backup 4/5, given that he brings some grit to this team. The backcourt needs some work, but you would still be moving Lavine and hopefully Schroeder in the offseason, drafting a point guard, moving Clifford to the starting #2, and having Monk as a 6th man. Even better if you can pull off the Domas trade without moving Keon, but it doesn't seem like the front office values Keon in that way.
But still, you could go into next season (or at the worst), the following season (2027 season) with:
Collins/Max
Kuminga/Precious
Keegan/Moody
Clifford
2026 draft pick/Monk
You'd also have two relatively high second round picks from the 2026 draft, a 2027 First round draft pick, whatever capital you get from the Warriors, whatever capital (if any) you get for Lavine and Westbrook, and maybe one of Keon or Carter.
That is a longer, younger, and much easier team to root for.
1) Domas/Keon for a Kuminga/Moody and draft capital package
2) Demar for Collins
3) Russ for second round draft capital
You suddenly have a midseason roster of:
Collins/Max/Eubanks
Kuminga/Precious
Keegan/Moody
Lavine/Clifford
Schroeder/Monk/Carter
That is suddenly a young, long, diverse frontcourt. The oldest guy (by far) is Collins, and he is only 28. Given what we have seen, I would love to keep Precious as a backup 4/5, given that he brings some grit to this team. The backcourt needs some work, but you would still be moving Lavine and hopefully Schroeder in the offseason, drafting a point guard, moving Clifford to the starting #2, and having Monk as a 6th man. Even better if you can pull off the Domas trade without moving Keon, but it doesn't seem like the front office values Keon in that way.
But still, you could go into next season (or at the worst), the following season (2027 season) with:
Collins/Max
Kuminga/Precious
Keegan/Moody
Clifford
2026 draft pick/Monk
You'd also have two relatively high second round picks from the 2026 draft, a 2027 First round draft pick, whatever capital you get from the Warriors, whatever capital (if any) you get for Lavine and Westbrook, and maybe one of Keon or Carter.
That is a longer, younger, and much easier team to root for.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Lavine in Milwaukee seems like a tough fit. I’d imagine if they were willing to do it they would want Lavine to decline his player option and sign an extension. Would Lavine want to do that given the Giannis situation? If Giannis asks for a trade in the off season that leaves the bucks with Lavine, Turner and Rollins. Not a great situation. If I’m Lavine I’m only declining the player option if I can land on a team with a pathway to success over the life of the new deal
Joshyjosh31
Starter
A trade is damn near impossible they’d have to send Portis/Kuzma and still add more salary at that point you’re trading your bench and only big men for Lavine, Giannis brother would end up getting 30min in this scenario
TaxMan
Starter
I got be honest, does Zach even care bout the Giannis situation? I don’t get the sense he’s going to round out his career chasing a ring. Seems like he might be perfectly happy on an ok team as long as he’s able to get his 25 points per game. If anything, seemed like he was happy to get out of chicago and back to the west coast (geographical speaking). Would he be happy living back in the Midwest for the next few years?
LT-Sac-Town
G-League
On the topic of a Derozan for Collins swap - wouldn't that be huge for us since that frees up cap next year and it would allow us to use that cap to help resign Keon?
ShastaKingsFan
Hall of Famer
If it was a proven competent organization that was scouting and evaluating him, you might have that in the back of your mind. With the Kings, I trust the overall impact and value that I see with my own eyes. I think we will see how a competent team can utilize him.
One thing is for sure,....scouts for better teams are interested in adding him to their rosters
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
He has all the money he could ever need, I’d imagine he would want to be on a good team for once. He’s only played for bad franchises, you’d think he would want to land on a team that could maximize his skill set
NewArena
Hall of Famer
LOL
NewArena
Hall of Famer
Eh, I wouldn't believe every report. It's possible people want him but I think people are getting a bit carried away here
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Yep, the new rules are going to factor in for sure. The main reason it will be hard for the Kings to trade LaVine is because with huge expirings the team trading them is almost always going to have to take a longer term deal back. Huge expirings never have great value for the team trading them for that reason, they usually decide the contract is most beneficial for themselves in the end.
Eh, they're giant boneheads.
Truly can't wait for the excuses when he goes and makes an all-defensive team for his next squad. Going to be heartbreaking
ShastaKingsFan
Hall of Famer
One of the excuses will be something along the lines of...."he just wasn't doing that when he played for us".
Yeah, go figure. They hardly ever allowed him to get in a rhythm....and the few times that they did, the team was always better for it.
NewArena
Hall of Famer
THIS! All of this and especially what I put in bold. I enjoy his game overall and I love when he gets hot from three but I'm not necessarily in love with him and feel like it'll be impossible to replace what he does well. I wouldn't mind keeping him and extending him on a decent contract but I don't know how realistic that is at this point
NewArena
Hall of Famer
I just haven't seen anything from him that screams "All NBA defensive team". Maybe in comparison to DeMar, sure, but that isn't saying much. Keegan is our best defender by a MILE IMO and it's not even close.
The question is what is a fair contract. I wish we played him expanded minutes to see if he is that guy, we've had the time to do it and nothing to lose. Would I rather have given him Schröder's money? Yes. Do I have concerns that a 4/80 deal could bite us? Also yes.
Caccia
Starter
Sadly, the trade rumors have eclipsed anything the Kings are doing on the court. I would like to see them run off a few wins just to shut everybody up. By the way, the head of this thread should have been amended to "Kings willing to trade anyone except, Keegan, Nique, and Max," per the GM, Mr. Owl.
fansinceday1
Starter
As a basketball fan, I can’t wait to see Keon on the Heat, warriors, or lakers.
The kings are so stupid sometimes it physically hurts.
The kings are so stupid sometimes it physically hurts.
fansinceday1
Starter
A lot of the “I like him but” Keon arguments strongly resemble a lot of what was said about Davion. Like ham just said on 1320, Keon is gonna go where he wants and he’s gonna have plenty of suitors.