Evans makes verbal commitment to Pelicans

[Uncia03]

Let the Pelicans mess up their own team now.

Put it this way, there is absolutely nothing preventing this from working out for us now except we ourselves making a bad decision. Send our front office on a vacation to Tahiti and let me take over for the week, and we win. We have Reke effectively locked up for a set number ($11mil), we know exactly how much other cap space we have, and since I am playing with Vivek's money not my own, you can add another $7.5mil of space to the remaining total when I amnesty Salmons. AK47 just got a call from me.

I will say that if I was a NO fan I'd not be at all happy about this situation.
Basically you're going to be forced to relinquish all of your rights to your free agents and trade away a play (Lopez) for nothing in return...all so you can be at the mercy of a team who's coach wants the player back and which player says he wants his team to match.
And if he joins your team he either is going to play at his worst position (SF) or come off the bench.

As for the Kings...I'm very happy.

By keeping quiet on the situation that figure of $11m never got any higher. The last thing you wanted was a bidding war...and you were able to avoid it. So it's up to you to decide if it's worth $11m to keep your 2nd best player who hasn't hit his prime yet...and since you know the exact amount...it gives you the time and information needed to try to bring in other FAs such as AK or work a trade.

 

[Mojo]

I'm sure the Pelicans will figure something out, not really concerned about that part. If they release Lopez, that's around 5 million cleared right there. They would only be a one or two off after that and could just trade Vaquez or somebody for a future second.

 

[Glenn]

Very good article. So the Pelicans need to shed $6 mil before July 10. Perhaps they know how but it seems difficult to me. What if they can't free up the cap space for Tyreke? Then what happens to the deal? Perhaps if they can only shed $4 mil it drops the offer sheet by $2 mil. This is where the real capologists need to jump in.

It blows me away that after all the fretting about how we fit Tyreke and Iggy under the cap, Tyreke signs an offer sheet with a team that needs to get under the salary cap by July 10. Seems to me that if the Pelicans can't do it, there must be some punishment from the league. Please folks, don't tell me Arn Tellem wasn't aware of this situation. Why have they been dicking around all this time when they couldn't make the deal? I will be super pissed if this hurts us.

Seems like their offer sheet should be null and void and then what? Do we negotiate with Tyreke? How? Perhaps our FO thinks the Pelicans can't make good on the offer sheet and that's why the silence. It sure explains why Tellem wanted the Kings to make an offer. It gets him off the hook.

I guess the obvious answer is that we get him for 4/44 on our terms. Whatever terms the Pelicans inserted to make it difficult for the Kings would be tossed into the trash heap.

 

[Uncia03]

Regarding the conspiracy theory, the leaks would be coming from Reke's agent, trying to get the Kings to panic and "outbid" the Pelicans when all they have to do is match. Agents are always the big winners in bidding wars, especially if they conned a team into one over a restricted free agent. Your question of "who benefits" is right, but your conclusion is frankly Maloofian.

From a 'leak' perspective this is my take as well.
There is absolutely nothing stopping the Kings from telling Tyreke that they will sign him right now for 11.5m/year. And from all accounts...if they did that, he'd sign with them with-out hesitation.

I see the leak as coming from Tyreke's agent...to make the Kings FO believe that it would be in their best interest to lock up Tyreke now for just a bit more money...rather than matching the offer.

With that said...if the inconceivable happens and we don't match...then it would be pretty clear that these leaks were coming from the Kings FO.

 

[Section 101]

Very good article. So the Pelicans need to shed $6 mil before July 10. Perhaps they know how but it seems difficult to me. What if they can't free up the cap space for Tyreke? Then what happens to the deal? Perhaps if they can only shed $4 mil it drops the offer sheet by $2 mil. This is where the real capologists need to jump in.

It blows me away that after all the fretting about how we fit Tyreke and Iggy under the cap, Tyreke signs an offer sheet with a team that needs to get under the salary cap by July 10. Seems to me that if the Pelicans can't do it, there must be some punishment from the league. Please folks, don't tell me Arn Tellem wasn't aware of this situation. Why have they been dicking around all this time when they couldn't make the deal? I will be super pissed if this hurts us.

Seems like their offer sheet should be null and void and then what? Do we negotiate with Tyreke? How? Perhaps our FO thinks the Pelicans can't make good on the offer sheet and that's why the silence. It sure explains why Tellem wanted the Kings to make an offer. It gets him off the hook.

Could very well be they don't think they can trade Lopez and won't waive him to clear the space. But they don't have to have the cap space until he signs. The same situation happened with Batum. The Wolves didn't have the cap space, but they got the offer sheet. They were able to create the cap space after they could sign him.

 

[Mad D]

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2013/07/03/what-happens-now/

I thought this was an interesting article from the Pelican Point of view

It lost me when it alluded that Sacramento is still going to be dysfunctional completely ignoring the new ownership and management. Also this user comment:

Wanna win? Come to Big Easy, we're willing to pay you. Wanna be stuck in mediocrity doing whatever you want and still lose games and waste your talent with the Kings? Good luck, and enjoy the regular season, 'cause we're about the playoffs here

 

[Glenn]

Could very well be they don't think they can trade Lopez and won't waive him to clear the space. But they don't have to have the cap space until he signs. The same situation happened with Batum. The Wolves didn't have the cap space, but they got the offer sheet. They were able to create the cap space after they could sign him.

So if they go through all the bother of creating the cap space and then we use the three days to match, then what? Is there an Oooops! clause? I presume if we match, they can reverse their moves or they are all contingent on the Kings not matching.

 

[Glenn]

Do the Pelicans really want a 6th man/SF for 4/44? I suppose they have it all figured out and I really don't care but it seems they are going to change their team in a major way change their team for a guy a lot of people here including don't think is worth it.

This idea that was floated by who knows who that they want a sign and trade for Vasquez and Lopez still doesn't change it for Tyreke as the third guard. I suspect they really think he is a SF. They obviously are seeing something I didn't see especially at the SF position. Is he a 4/44 SF?

 

[Uncia03]

So if they go through all the bother of creating the cap space and then we use the three days to match, then what? Is there an Oooops! clause? I presume if we match, they can reverse their moves or they are all contingent on the Kings not matching.

That is the crazy thing in this situation. NO has to make their moves to clear up the space needed to sign Tyreke. He can only sign once that is done.
So if we match...they lose out on both Evans plus anything they might have done to firesale assets to clear cap space.

Again...I really don't understand this at all from NO's point of view. DA can actually force them to lose assets for nothing by just staying silent and matching once Tyreke inks the deal.

 

[Glenn]

That is the crazy thing in this situation. NO has to make their moves to clear up the space needed to sign Tyreke. He can only sign once that is done.
So if we match...they lose out on both Evans plus anything they might have done to firesale assets to clear cap space.

Again...I really don't understand this at all from NO's point of view. DA can actually force them to lose assets for nothing by just staying silent and matching once Tyreke inks the deal.

I suspect there is a way they can reverse their moves or make them contingent on the Tyreke move but then they have a team with a nice number of them knowing they aren't wanted. They need to dump Lopez by Friday and I can't imagine they get a mulligan on that one.

 

[HndsmCelt]

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2013/07/03/what-happens-now/

I thought this was an interesting article from the Pelican Point of view

Nice read. SO time is completely on the Kings side here. I would be surprised if they do anything until after the 10th (other than reassure Tyreke they want him) If NO can't makes space the offer is void and the Kings are in the Drivers seat while Evans agent looks for another offer. If they get the scratch together fine Kings can match between the 10th and 13th. I really do not know what NO thinks they are doing here.

 

[hrdboild]

In 1971 I bought a near new Triumph Spitfire for $800 10 year ago I bought a project car for about 2K. It's all about market forces.

Yes and, as I said before, the assertion that Tyreke's deal is more money than Stephen Curry is making is flat not true. Curry signed an extension last summer for 4 years and $44 million. It's exactly the same.

 

[NewArena]

I'm actually hoping NO can get it together. I want us to match this offer as soon as possible so we can move on. It's not like we're giving the guy a max contract. I don't like the idea of us possibly negotiating with his agent for the rest of the damn month. We have other things we need to be worried about

 

[Uncia03]

I suspect there is a way they can reverse their moves or make them contingent on the Tyreke move but then they have a team with a nice number of them knowing they aren't wanted. They need to dump Lopez by Friday and I can't imagine they get a mulligan on that one.

There really isn't any way to reverse their move. Tyreke can't sign their offer until they actually create the room. Once he signs on the dotted line...they are stuck with any sort of moves they made to clear the space. When DA matches...they lose Tyreke....as well as any assets they traded to get under the cap.

Now they have some FA which they will have to release the cap hold on and that would make them all unrestricted free agents..and there wouldn't be any reason that they couldn't resign with the team as long as the team is under the cap.

But NO can't say have a trade in place with another team to clear space that is just pending. Any trades they would want to make would have to be proposed and then finalized by the league in order for that cap space to be officially freed up so that Tyreke can sign.

 

[Darth Divac]

Who will we be trading Cousins for????? Thompson and Gee from the Cavs???