Early look at 2014 (split)

[Entity]

I just don't buy that Mac would not be better in his 2nd year of college and that the highschoolers are tauted as superstars yet. ok so he dropped to 7 to the suprise of Millions of people. Cuz was thought to be 1 or 2 and he dropped. I doubt i will keep up with it much but keep me informed as to how many of them shoot 47% and 42% from 3.

but to draw a true comparison lets use the high school stats.

B. Maclemore 28.8pts 6.1ast 12.5reb 2.6stls 2.2blks 57% 40% 3pt

A. Wiggins 23pts 2.5ast 11reb 2.4stls 2.6blks 58% 35% 3pt

just saying if you want to compare lets compare using like competition

 

[bajaden]

I am fascinate each year by the posters that automatically know that a highschool kid is going to be "the next lebron". has not happened yet btw. curious who had this precious tag last year after the 2012 draft? I think it was Tony Mitchell. 2nd round pick if i'm not mistaken.

Ahhhh, I don't think anyone called Tony Mitchell the next Lebron...He did have a very encouraging freshman year at North Texas, but fizzled his sophmore year. Not all his fault though. North Texas brought in a new headcoach, who really changed things up, and asked Mitchell to play more on the perimeter. But at no point did anyone think he was going to be a superstar. I had him pegged as a possible Kenneth Faried type. An undersized but extremely athletic PG with a high energy level.

 

[bajaden]

I would without a doubt swap McLemore now for Wiggins next year. There's literally no doubt in my mind. Maybe you wouldn't, but that says more about your own bias than anything else. Wiggins is not going to be better than LeBron, but he has legit superstar talent. As in an elite level player, in the company of the top 5 players in the NBA. Meanwhile you are making it out to be an outrageous claim to rate Wiggins higher than a number 7 pick in a weak draft - someone who hasn't even stepped foot on an NBA court. I think I know who the crazy one is here.

BTW, that's not a criticism of McLemore. I really like him. But Wiggins he is not.

I also would trade McLemore for Wiggins. Wiggins is as good an athlete as McLemore, and has zero holes in his game. If you haven't seen him play, then you shouldn't comment, because he's special, and I don't say that about very many players.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

I just don't buy that Mac would not be better in his 2nd year of college and that the highschoolers are tauted as superstars yet. ok so he dropped to 7 to the suprise of Millions of people. Cuz was thought to be 1 or 2 and he dropped. I doubt i will keep up with it much but keep me informed as to how many of them shoot 47% and 42% from 3.

but to draw a true comparison lets use the high school stats.

B. Maclemore 28.8pts 6.1ast 12.5reb 2.6stls 2.2blks 57% 40% 3pt

A. Wiggins 23pts 2.5ast 11reb 2.4stls 2.6blks 58% 35% 3pt

just saying if you want to compare lets compare using like competition

**** I would give up Vasquez Mclemore and IT for Wiggins.

Wiggins handle seperates him from Mclemore.

Wiggins is also canadian so im biased, because we looked up to Joel Anthony before..

 

[Dreadnought]

As a huge Ben mclemore fan, Andrew wiggins is going to change the nba. Him, Jabari Parker, and Julius randle will be akin to Lebrun, Carmelo, and wade. I would make that trade in a heartbeat.

 

[bajaden]

i saw all that shooting over a 5'7 white SF backed up by a 6'3 center in most of his games. then he scores 7 points when he plays an all star game against more equal talent.

Just so you know, Wiggins played against all the top US talent in the country at the Jordan Brand Classic, and at the Nike Summit game. He went up against Parker, Julius Randle, the Harrison Twins, Aaron Gordon, Dakari Johnson, etc. He's a proven comodity. Now you can have your doubts. Thats fine, but this post you made is a joke! The only thing that can keep Wiggins from being a star, is injury. And trust me, he won't be the only star that comes out of this class. Randle is a beast. A 6'9" PF with a huge wingspan, that can handle, shoot all the way out to three pt range, rebound, block shots, and score in the post. I don't like comparisons, but he reminds me of a young Chris Webber with his explosiveness.

 

[bajaden]

all I said was Maclemore would be top 5 talent next year. I got bashed for that. My bad. I didn't realize that the kid had reached his ceiling. I still don't understand where I am bias though as if i got something out for Wiggins?

I won't argue with you about McLemore being a top 5 pick next year, because if he had stayed in school another year, and improved some of his weaknesses, he probably would have a chance at being a top 5 pick next year. Depending on the teams picking needs. But if the projected top in next years draft had been in this draft, McLemore would have slid even further down the board along with everyone else.

 

[bajaden]

Everybody needs to at least pretend to be civil. It's hotter than Hades in Northern California right now, temperatures and emotions are high because of the Evans trade and other related discussions, and people are getting on each other's nerves. Could we just TRY to maintain a modicum of civility?

Only 82 degree's here on the beach. Perfect weather! Whats the problem?

 

[bajaden]

I just don't buy that Mac would not be better in his 2nd year of college and that the highschoolers are tauted as superstars yet. ok so he dropped to 7 to the suprise of Millions of people. Cuz was thought to be 1 or 2 and he dropped. I doubt i will keep up with it much but keep me informed as to how many of them shoot 47% and 42% from 3.

but to draw a true comparison lets use the high school stats.

B. Maclemore 28.8pts 6.1ast 12.5reb 2.6stls 2.2blks 57% 40% 3pt

A. Wiggins 23pts 2.5ast 11reb 2.4stls 2.6blks 58% 35% 3pt

just saying if you want to compare lets compare using like competition

Well Cuz dropped for different reasons than McLemore. But that aside, you know as well as anyone here that stats just don't tell the whole story. You have to see him play. I stand by one of my statements, that there are just a handful of players that could keep Wiggins in front of them. Actually Randle did a pretty good job on one occasion in the Jordan Brand Classic. But Wiggins has Kobe like ability one on one. He's very very difficult to guard because he has so many weapons. Terrific ballhandler, and excellent passer. Its not often that you find a player with his kind of athleticism that has no obvious holes in his game.

 

[Darth Divac]

Well Cuz dropped for different reasons than McLemore. But that aside, you know as well as anyone here that stats just don't tell the whole story. You have to see him play. I stand by one of my statements, that there are just a handful of players that could keep Wiggins in front of them. Actually Randle did a pretty good job on one occasion in the Jordan Brand Classic. But Wiggins has Kobe like ability one on one. He's very very difficult to guard because he has so many weapons. Terrific ballhandler, and excellent passer. Its not often that you find a player with his kind of athleticism that has no obvious holes in his game.

I know. He could maybe improve his shot a little, otherwise he is a perfect all-around player with unimaginable athleticism.

 

[VF21]

Only 82 degree's here on the beach. Perfect weather! Whats the problem?

I never realized before that you have such a mean streak.

 

[Entity]

my bad Baja. I totally abandoned this thread. I didn't realize you were replying to me here. but uhmm....ok cool.

see i don't have a lockdown emotional stance on this subject. just said Bmac would still be good next year. thats pretty much the extent of my willingness to care. don't really care to argue it as noway it could ever be proven. wasn't expecting an argument out of it. but Im sure all this wiggins and next years draft info is important to somebody I am glad i could kick it off lol.

 

[Darth Divac]

Let's stop arguing, for once, and start talking about the prospects! A guy who really intrigues me is Dante Exum. Handle, court vision and passing ability of a PG, but size, scoring punch and athleticism of a SG. He's not at all a tweener; he's a guy who can line up at both guard positions extremely well and play either off the ball or on it. Just the sort of guy we need, in my opinion!

There, see? We've steered clear of argument and traveled into the safe waters of intellectual discussion!

 

[ParniValjak]

We just need to strike it BIG in the lottery next year and I sure as hell hope it happens to be a SF who can handle, create for himself (have the penetrating ability) shoot the ball and defend at an extremely high level. In other words I just described Wiggins

 

[Darth Divac]

We just need to strike it BIG in the lottery next year and I sure as hell hope it happens to be a SF who can handle, create for himself (have the penetrating ability) shoot the ball and defend at an extremely high level. In other words I just described Wiggins

Only problem is, the Lakers will in all likelihood be a lottery team next year, so no matter how low their odds are, they're winning the no.1.

Anyways, you also might want to consider Glenn Robinson III. He's jumper is slightly off, but otherwise he is exactly as you described.

 

[Entity]

well I just became more interested in this. Its obvious they want to build around Cousins and they want to get stud to go with him in NEXT years draft. We are not improving this season in fact could be worse. Soooooo.. who do we want Wiggins?

 

[Darth Divac]

well I just became more interested in this. Its obvious they want to build around Cousins and they want to get stud to go with him in NEXT years draft. We are not improving this season in fact could be worse. Soooooo.. who do we want Wiggins?

We have to stop banking on getting Wiggins. That's why I brought up GRIII and Exum; I want to discuss other prospects who we can realistically aquire.

 

[lwc]

While Wiggins is a superstar in the making, there are other players that will be good: Jabari Parker, Julius Randle, Marcus Smart, etc... Also, there are players that stayed in college that will be much improved: Alex Poythress (rumor around campus is that he grew at least two inches taller, but obviously a rumor), Willie Cauley-Stein, etc...

 

[Kingsfan23]

We should be competitive again in terms of record for this top pick. Look at the Western Conference, who are we better than? Maybe Phoenix.. depressing what we might see given the surge for tickets