Draft Flynn at #4 then trade up using #23 and #31

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How bout Trading up using 23+31 for two top 10 PG's

If Rubio is not going to happen.... Then how about drafting Flynn at the #4 then using our other picks to trade up for either Jennings, Holiday or Curry...

that way we have more than doubled our chances of finding a "winner" at the PG spot and could even have the PG spot on lock down for years to come if the other can be a decent back up.... or maybe a solid trade asset

I used Flynn as the #4 now but honestly it wont be for another few weeks till we kinda know the order for these PG's.... right now their all about the same rank to me... Flynn seems to really be rising up draft boards fast right now... and I think Holiday will start to fall. Curry might be the combo PG we could only dream Douby could be...

If we could walk away with 2 of the top 10 PG's I'd forget all about the lotto.
 
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i think using 23rd and 31st to trade UP to get flyn is much better..

at 4 hes pretty much a reach..

heres an idea

trading with the wiz

kt greene 31st and beno for songalia stevenson haywood and 5th pick

we get 4 and 5 picks easy...

a pick at the 4, 5, 23rd,

wiz will relinquish themselves of darius, haywood, and stevensons contract. get a back up point in beno, get a prospect in greene and a 31st.. while we get a servicable back up center and forward.. and a fifth pick.. arenas wont wait for a prospect to grow and take his minutes.. they want to compete no doubt
 
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i've Been Saying All Along That I Think Gp Is Using This Pick To Fill A Need At Pg.

Thus, It Does Not Make Sense To Trade Down. Teams Picking From 6 To 8 Are Also Looking For Pg, So How Can You Trade Down? Go Down To #9 And Pick The Leftover? Swap Pick With #6, #7, Or #8 So That Team Can Pick The Better Pg? The Logistics Doesn't Work.

If We Do Trade Down, It Basically Means Giving Up On Drafting A Pg. If I Have To Guess What Gp Is Trying To Do, My Guess Is He's Trying To Trade up.

And Oh, Don't Trust The Mock Draft. They're Never Accurate At This Point In The Game. If The Kings Like Flynn Then You Can Bet That Min, Gs, And Ny Like Him Too.

Totally Agree!!!
 
Again, Flynn is serviceable--I think he'll end up somewhat like what TJ Ford is right now in the NBA--but he isn't quite the passer, rebounder, or stealer Ford was--he's much more efficient in scoring, though. I think both of them balance out in the end. Ford was drafted 8th by the Bucks, and he's arguably better than what Flynn could be, so it's really reaching to be drafting for Flynn even if he pans out.
 
Again, Flynn is serviceable--I think he'll end up somewhat like what TJ Ford is right now in the NBA--but he isn't quite the passer, rebounder, or stealer Ford was--he's much more efficient in scoring, though. I think both of them balance out in the end. Ford was drafted 8th by the Bucks, and he's arguably better than what Flynn could be, so it's really reaching to be drafting for Flynn even if he pans out.

I would disagree with this assessment. The main reason Ford hasn't been successful in the NBA is his lack of shooting. When you can't hit an outside shot as a PG, it greatly decreases the effectiveness of the rest of your game.

Flynn is already a better scorer than Ford. If the rest of his skills are anywhere near those of Ford, he will be a very good PG in the NBA.
 
I would disagree with this assessment. The main reason Ford hasn't been successful in the NBA is his lack of shooting. When you can't hit an outside shot as a PG, it greatly decreases the effectiveness of the rest of your game.

Flynn is already a better scorer than Ford. If the rest of his skills are anywhere near those of Ford, he will be a very good PG in the NBA.

One other thing I would like to point out. There's a better than even chance that Flynn will play more games per year than Ford has. Flynn is one tough dude and very durable. Ford is always one drive to the basket injury waiting to happen.
 
I may be selling Flynn short a little by comparing him unfavorably to Ford (as baja said, because his career won't be spliced with injuries I think he'll gain a little more traction in his development) but let's not throw Ford under the bus here either--when he was healthy, wasn't a bad player at all--he's a very solid starter who can irritate defenders with scoring, quickness and passing when he put his mind to it. Flynn is absolutely of the same mold, and I think he'll enjoy a similar success to Ford. A good scoring point guard.

Telemachus, actually Ford's been quite successful in the league, and I think you're underestimating his lack of shot--he's a very good free throw shooter and shoots well within a 15 foot radius. He plays his style of game very well, and if it weren't for his injuries I think he would arguably still be with his first team--the Bucks--right now.

My problem was always where Flynn would be drafted--I have little doubt that we wouldn't getting optimal value if we take Flynn at #4. He's a good scoring point (only Nick Calathes and Ty Lawson are better scorers/passers in the college game) and like Ford, a far preferred slasher who gets to the line, and that should translate to the next level because he fits the breed of today's waterbugs. He's also an underrated passer--I've said this before. But a point guard who barely tips 6 feet and lacks deep range shouldn't be drafted this high, unless they're Chris Paul or Allen Iverson--and he's not. He's not as intelligent or as great a passer as Paul, not as prolific offensively or strong-willed as A.I., and in addition tends to get out of control and plays questionably on the defensive end. Ultimately, I don't mind taking him, but at a lower pick--I think he'll be drafted between #8-14, so we can take him there along with another player or draft pick--that's more reasonable with his talent level and potential.
 
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Telemachus, actually Ford's been quite successful in the league, and I think you're underestimating his lack of shot--he's a very good free throw shooter and shoots well within a 15 foot radius. He plays his style of game very well, and if it weren't for his injuries I think he would arguably still be with his first team--the Bucks--right now.

Calling Ford unsuccessful was probably the wrong choice of words. I was more comparing his career to what his expectations were.

I actually liked Ford's game a lot coming out of college. My only knock on him was he lack of a shot outside of about 12 ft. I said at the time that he wouldn't amount to much if he didn't improve that area of his game. To his credit, he did improve his range out to about 15-18 ft, and that is when he became a credible starter IMO.
 
You don't draft two players at the same position in the top 10. They would both need a lot of development time and there would also pretty much have to be a veteran there so it just wouldn't work out.
 
alternatively we could grab mills with one of our later picks and add a different type of PG to complement our rotation
 
i think flynn would be perfect for us and those who are saying its a reach at 4, its not really flynn will easily be drafted in the top 10 if you look at all the players between 4 and 10 they are all the same, potential with hopes of upside and this draft isn't strong enough there is no way a team is going to trade up for the 4
 
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