We haven't agreed on a few things lately, but you're 100% spot on with this one... Sure he HAS been our best player, but I have a feeling that is going to change this year with the maturation of our twin towers JT and Spence, and the addition of hopefully rubio or another good PG to free them up even more. more then a few teams could use his talents... I say we start listening...
I don't agree wit the Brick man that often but I really do have to side with him this time on Martin. Martin is a good scorer, but he doesn't seem to be much of a difference maker. He cannot bring his team back from a deficit nor be relied on to hit a game winner for you. The dude just kind of scores, and nothing much. If he scores a lot, great...if he doesn't, then you're in trouble.
Back to Evans. He has great ability to get to the rim and finish that will draw help defense leading somebody open be it open 3pt, cutter, or one of the bigs getting an open dunk. His Defense is my biggest eye opener. he is quick enough to guard pgs and big enough to guard sgs and can hold his own against bigger guys if he gets switched.
Anyway I am ok with Rubio, Evans, Thabeet at #4 anybody else we should trade down a bit.
Anyway I am ok with Rubio, Evans, Thabeet at #4 anybody else we should trade down a bit.
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just depends on what kind of SG you want.... their both very different players... Kevin Martin is top 10 scorer...and a pure shooter...sorta Peja like with his shooting% and ability to score off of cuts to the basket... problem is Martin doesn't do much of anything else
Evans is BIG and MEAN on offense and defense... "a bully" like the scouts have been saying... he has great ball handling, and ability to create for himself and although not a pure PG he does well at creating for his teammates. He has a crazy wing span 6'11!!! and just flat out has a much better and balanced all around game... obviously just not the jump shooter as martin.
a name that i haven't heard in awhile is Bonzi Wells... he was a Big SG and kinda hogged the ball... but he didn't hurt his teammates while doing it. It was just his type of game.
Salmons and Artest forced it and were mental to some degree. Im not gonna hate players that "NEED" the ball to do well. its just about them doing it at the expense of the team and with Evans its not possible to see yet how he will play... in college he was told to score and score a lot.
Evans is BIG and MEAN on offense and defense... "a bully" like the scouts have been saying... he has great ball handling, and ability to create for himself and although not a pure PG he does well at creating for his teammates. He has a crazy wing span 6'11!!! and just flat out has a much better and balanced all around game... obviously just not the jump shooter as martin.
a name that i haven't heard in awhile is Bonzi Wells... he was a Big SG and kinda hogged the ball... but he didn't hurt his teammates while doing it. It was just his type of game.
Salmons and Artest forced it and were mental to some degree. Im not gonna hate players that "NEED" the ball to do well. its just about them doing it at the expense of the team and with Evans its not possible to see yet how he will play... in college he was told to score and score a lot.
In a few ways Evans is already better than Martin. He's bigger & stronger without the toothpick legs & ankles. They both can attack the basket, but Martin is more likely to pull up and take a short jumper or try to create a foul. While Evans is more likely to finish at the rim. Evans is a better ballhandler than Martin, though not as good as the better PG's. And, Evans plays better defense.
Martin shoots better than Evans. But, Martin's shooting has improved since he entered the league, and there's no reason to believe that Evans can't do the same. Big tall guys can run the offense, whether it's the Princeton with the High Post Center with Hawes or Miller, the SF/PG like Hedo for the Magic. or Magic for the Lakers.
A Playmaking PG needs to have the ball to make Plays. If Evans can make plays for his teammates plus be a offensive threat, he can be as effective as any other PG, plus he can play SG and defend both positions. Versatility has always been the mark of GP picks. And, potential is the key. If Evans can play the PG now, and develop to the point where he can challenge Martin, he will be the most valuable player on the roster.
Martin shoots better than Evans. But, Martin's shooting has improved since he entered the league, and there's no reason to believe that Evans can't do the same. Big tall guys can run the offense, whether it's the Princeton with the High Post Center with Hawes or Miller, the SF/PG like Hedo for the Magic. or Magic for the Lakers.
A Playmaking PG needs to have the ball to make Plays. If Evans can make plays for his teammates plus be a offensive threat, he can be as effective as any other PG, plus he can play SG and defend both positions. Versatility has always been the mark of GP picks. And, potential is the key. If Evans can play the PG now, and develop to the point where he can challenge Martin, he will be the most valuable player on the roster.
Kevin's contract is extremely reasonable other than his injury concerns. He doesn't do much but he does score well and if we trade him there really isn't anyone who will step up to the plate. While Martin is extremely efficient, Evans is not. Martin will never be the #1 option on a championship team but if you can surround him with some players and some how make him a 2nd option I think he'll be great. He's like Reggie Miller without the clutch. He scores at about the same efficient clip as Reggie used to do. Reggie didnt' do much else other than scoring.
Evans is very inefficient when scoring at the college level eventhough he does goto the hole a lot. His shooting form is easily the worst of the guards who are projected to be in the lottery. Evans Orating and TS% were very low for someone projected to go as high as he did. Also he had a ton of TOs. I think he's a very boom or bust pick just like most Memphis players have been over the year. According to ESPN, Memphis and Louisville are some of the riskier places to draft players from. Memphis did have Rose last year but other than him and Penny 15 years ago, nobody has come out of that program and they've had a ton of busts (Wagner, Williams, etc.).
I think Evans has a small chance in being great but has a huge chance of being a monsterous bust especially for going in the top 5 of the draft. I guess he could end up being the next great wing but will have to see. I don't think he's a viable PG option in the NBA though and if your drafting him to be that, I think your going to be disappointed. You'll notice that when the Tigers put him at PG, it also co-insided with their win streak. But if you take a look at their schedule, they had 3 tough games after that point, Gonzaga, UT and Missouri on their schedule. In 2 of those 3 games they won--but it wasn't due to his stellar play. In the Mizzou game he was actually unstoppable--but I digress that his stellar play and Memphis's stellar play co-insided with a chance in schedule which was mostly against CUSA teams--none of which made the NCAA tourney.
Evans is very inefficient when scoring at the college level eventhough he does goto the hole a lot. His shooting form is easily the worst of the guards who are projected to be in the lottery. Evans Orating and TS% were very low for someone projected to go as high as he did. Also he had a ton of TOs. I think he's a very boom or bust pick just like most Memphis players have been over the year. According to ESPN, Memphis and Louisville are some of the riskier places to draft players from. Memphis did have Rose last year but other than him and Penny 15 years ago, nobody has come out of that program and they've had a ton of busts (Wagner, Williams, etc.).
I think Evans has a small chance in being great but has a huge chance of being a monsterous bust especially for going in the top 5 of the draft. I guess he could end up being the next great wing but will have to see. I don't think he's a viable PG option in the NBA though and if your drafting him to be that, I think your going to be disappointed. You'll notice that when the Tigers put him at PG, it also co-insided with their win streak. But if you take a look at their schedule, they had 3 tough games after that point, Gonzaga, UT and Missouri on their schedule. In 2 of those 3 games they won--but it wasn't due to his stellar play. In the Mizzou game he was actually unstoppable--but I digress that his stellar play and Memphis's stellar play co-insided with a chance in schedule which was mostly against CUSA teams--none of which made the NCAA tourney.
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Trading Kevin Martin makes sense if you get a quality player in return and a draft pick. I'm not sold on trading a guy that gets 25 points a game and can get to the line anytime. He doesn't play defense but I think that'll change with Westphal. We need Rubio just for the reason that he's a pure point guard and it'll please every Kings fan on the globe. I'm not 100% sold on Rubio but he is what the teams needs.
I do think they need to trade Noc and have Greene play. Sign/Trade McCants. Get some stuff done. This team is young and ready to play.
I do think they need to trade Noc and have Greene play. Sign/Trade McCants. Get some stuff done. This team is young and ready to play.
The first thing that I think about when comparing Martin to Evans is the reverse pivot move. That's the move that Martin has been working on for the last three years, the move he's been unable to come close to perfecting, the move in which he repeatedly either travels or turns the ball over. Evans can do that in his sleep. He probably could do it in jr. high school.
