Donte Greene officially gone?
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Kingsguy881
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Yeah. I'm kinda thinking. Must have a promise from another team then.
SCKingsfan
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Does this suggest a trade has been agreed to?
kingjatt
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just like the rest of our young guys, not properly developed or coached or utilized. not given the chance to make mistakes and go thru going pains on the floor without getting yanked.
he will be a fine piece somewhere else. he's a 6'10 forward with guard like skills who can defend for stretches and has a few years under his belt, not to mention hes gonna be cheap.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Helps that he's only 24 too.
I know there's been a lot of comparison between Donte Greene and Gerald Wallace, but Donte is not Gerald. I, too, liked Donte but I just don't think he ever took things seriously enough. It never seemed as though basketball was a passion to him, as much as it was a fun job. I wish Donte well, but do not have a problem with him not being made a qualifying offer.
Not at all. He's a free agent, we can't trade him except in a sign-and-trade, which is highly, highly unlikely.
Best of luck, Donte, wherever you land!
kennadog
Dog On It!
Exactly the way I feel. I really like Donte and wish him all the best.
I'll never forget that he saved that woman from drowning in the American River. Turned out he'd been a lifegaurd as a teenager. I'm sure she was thankful that Donte was in Sacramento.
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LWP777
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Please. He had numerous shots. He's just not very good.
The Hammer
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Donte will go on to be a very fine player in this league, and still has a chance to be all star level. The coaching he received here was a joke. There was no leadership in the organization. Essentially, his coach and his leader was George Maloof. Not gonna go very far in the situation.
To those who say he didn't have the killer instinct. I think you're wrong. He improved tremendously on D, and showed a killer defensive instinct. Offensively, players have different styles that work for them. Some guys are just more loose, joking, by nature, doesn't mean they don't care, don't work, or don't want to win. That's just their personality.
I have no doubt that he'll land with a team that will develop him properly. I would not be surprised to see him end up on the Spurs, or the Thunder.
To those who say he didn't have the killer instinct. I think you're wrong. He improved tremendously on D, and showed a killer defensive instinct. Offensively, players have different styles that work for them. Some guys are just more loose, joking, by nature, doesn't mean they don't care, don't work, or don't want to win. That's just their personality.
I have no doubt that he'll land with a team that will develop him properly. I would not be surprised to see him end up on the Spurs, or the Thunder.
The Hammer
All-Star
You need more than "shots". You need a structure. You need committment from a coach, over time. Not just random bits of playing time, or even stretches of games where you start. Please. Every coach who was here was more interested in keeping their job in the short term than developing players over the long term. Guys don't come into the league ready to go anymore. One year college players drafted mid to late first round are going to need guidance for a couple years, and consitency. Donte never got that.
I wouldn't expect a tweet like that unless Petrie told him that he had no chance in hell of being resigned. I guess the Kings want the cap space. He was a good bench warmer, like Brockman... It's sad to see him go.
Oh yeah, he's gone because we're stuck with Travis Outlaw.
Oh yeah, he's gone because we're stuck with Travis Outlaw.
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uolj
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LWP777
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Excuses, excuses! I can list dozens of players who developed and became studs even with crappy coaches/organizations. You just have to persevere. Donte played on a lousy team who desperately could have used him if he was a solid player. He would have had to find a way to stick. Look at IT, look at Thornton, look at Twill. They have all flourished and have established themselves in the league now. Donte was never able to do that. Like others have said, he never had the killer instinct or work ethic. He's always been a poor decision maker on the floor and never developed a consistent shot. He was able to do a lot of things average to below average. In order to stick in this league you need to at least excel in ONE category.
Just because he's 6'10 with "guard skills" doesn't mean he's going to blow up on another team. I think he will land somewhere and probably end up with the same type of role and produce the same type of results. Good luck to him though. Always seemed like a pretty good kid.
Exactly!
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Let's keep in mind that Gerald Wallace never developed for us even with a good coach.
The Hammer
All-Star
Player X should have done, could have done, etc. Well, you know what those are? Those are excuses from the coach's point of view.
Good point about Wallace and Adelman. Adelman was a good coach, but not so good at developing players. Also, we didn't need to expose him in the expansion draft.
PurpleHaze
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"Buckets" never could deliver them on any kind of consistent basis. For all the "he could have been, he might one day be," Greene isn't even a streaky shooter, he's a terrible NBA shooter.
I agree.
The only thing is he might not land on a team that will develop him properly. He will still be a bench warmer. The Kings have already ruined this kid's career by not developing him properly. Teams might see him as mediocre as best.
The Hammer
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I could also see the Pacers, Celtics, or even Warriors pick him up. All three organization have strong ownership, GMs, and are not filled with total retards in the ownership >> coaching ranks. I could also see the Mavs picking him up. Basically, any intelligent team.
kennadog
Dog On It!
While I agree we haven't had great coaching, you can't rely on that solely, anymore than you can rely on teachers to make you successful in life. I do not think Donte will turn into a star. Hopefully he can become a more solid role player on another team. As I've said, I wish him all the best.
I wish we hadn't exposed Wallace in the expansion draft. On the other hand, at a time when nothing ever came out of that team's (Vlade, Weber, etc.) locker room, no body calling anybody out publicly, there were definite reports from sources and reporters that Wallace was a pretty lazy rookie. I think it took being exposed and ending up on another team to open his eyes.
I wish we hadn't exposed Wallace in the expansion draft. On the other hand, at a time when nothing ever came out of that team's (Vlade, Weber, etc.) locker room, no body calling anybody out publicly, there were definite reports from sources and reporters that Wallace was a pretty lazy rookie. I think it took being exposed and ending up on another team to open his eyes.
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I didn't even mean to suggest Donte wasn't partially at fault here. He did have opportunities to seize the position if he beat out everyone else. But looking back, the impression I get overall is that I don't really know how good Donte can be because in the three years where he was with the team (and not in the D-league) he would ride the bench for long stretches even after he played a great game. Westphal seemed to freeze out guys he wasn't happy with and wasn't very good about communicating to them why. But actually, with Donte it almost seems like playing time was a direct result of what everybody else did, not what he did. He might need the change of scenery to find his niche, and I hope he does cause he's a likable guy and he clearly has NBA talent if he figures out how to refine it and use it. There's no animosity directed toward the organization or Donte from me. It just didn't work out for him here.
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