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[mac]

I went back and did the calculations and when Tyreke began the year as a pg (first 29 games), he had a shooting percentage of .413. Based on his annual shooting percentage (and because I don't want to do the work to figure out his post pg shooting), it looks like his shooting percentage was far higher after the position change than before.

Umm this has been said many times. Reason behind it? Well, Tyreke taking less shots, an improved jumpshot, getting a lot of his touches only in transition/ when he cuts and is wide open for layups. Part improvement/maturity from him and part him not being given the ball to create his own shot.

 

[Glenn]

At the beginning of the year the enitire team was shooting around 41% or below. The only person shooting well was JT. Everybody began to shoot better as the season progressed.



Edit: JT was at 52%, Cuz was around 45%, Tyreke and Thornton were about 41% and then everyone else was under 37%. The TEAM was a mess and blaming this on one player makes little sense. The entire team besides JT was shooting poorly and without looking, I will bet money that almost all the players began to shoot better except JT who was steady as they go. I remember all these numbers as I posted it before and it was ignored. It has been a charming 3 month debate about IT vs Tyreke and before that simply Tyreke and his lack of improvement but the elephant in the room is that the entire team has been playing poorly except JT, of all people. Cuz is exciting but still is shooting under 50% and although at this point of his career that doesn't bother me, it still is not good.

I have my theories about why we focus on Tyreke but Tyreke doesn't determine the play of the entire team. Except for those who (naturally) have some ego involved in the IT vs Tyreke debate, I hope we all are rooting for him AND IT as they both have some unique talent. I personally think we need a more clever coach to deal with Tyreke's unusual skillset but that decision has already been made by the Maloofs.

Now I can't stop. The problems have always started at the top which is characteristic of almost all companies. Poor owners lead to poor coaches lead to mismanagement of the players leads to a putrid team. Picking out minutiae is interesting and at times exciting to debate but in the end nothing is going to happen with the present ownership. This may seem harsh as the people I respect the most are in this long standing debate and I have learned something but does any of this make any difference?

 

[Section 101]

Umm this has been said many times. Reason behind it? Well, Tyreke taking less shots, an improved jumpshot, getting a lot of his touches only in transition/ when he cuts and is wide open for layups. Part improvement/maturity from him and part him not being given the ball to create his own shot.

He took at most 1-2 less shots. He was improved in his shot selection. Less jumpers when pounding the ball and less 3pt shots as the shot clock ran down. Now if you want to give him more shots in the right position that's fine. But putting him back as the PG is not the right way to get him more shots. It will just be more of the old pull up jumpers.

 

[Spike]

The problems have always started at the top which is characteristic of almost all companies. Poor owners lead to poor coaches lead to mismanagement of the players leads to a putrid team. Picking out minutiae is interesting and at times exciting to debate but in the end nothing is going to happen with the present ownership. This may seem harsh as the people I respect the most are in this long standing debate and I have learned something but does any of this make any difference?

Ultimately, I'm in your boat when it comes to change. We do need the right coach. It's like people complaining about brussel sprouts who have never had them rendered in bacon grease. Delicious stuff, right there.

 

[Spike]

But putting him back as the PG is not the right way to get him more shots. It will just be more of the old pull up jumpers.

You don't know that. In fact, in the past few games when he was the PG on the floor, he rarely did any of what he was being criticized for earlier in the year. It's like people don't want to acknowledge growth...

 

[Padrino]

You don't know that. In fact, in the past few games when he was the PG on the floor, he rarely did any of what he was being criticized for earlier in the year. It's like people don't want to acknowledge growth...

its the same old **** with this particular contingent. they've been long convinced that tyreke cannot succeed or grow beyond their tremendously limited view of his skillset, despite every piece of actual, tangible evidence that claims otherwise. many seem so disturbingly convinced that just because they say tyreke cannot, he will not, as if they hold some much loftier position of prognostication than the rest of us mere mortals who choose not to debate in absolutes. i ceased arguing the point a couple of weeks ago, as my grad student workload became too weighty to support the writing of any further responses to the inane babble of a horrendously vocal minority. i don't foresee but an occasional lift of that embargo, either, as it requires much more energy than one would think to argue with a doll and its eternity of repeated drawstring utterances...

 

[bajaden]

Ultimately, I'm in your boat when it comes to change. We do need the right coach. It's like people complaining about brussel sprouts who have never had them rendered in bacon grease. Delicious stuff, right there.

The sprouts or the grease?

 

[bajaden]

its the same old **** with this particular contingent. they've been long convinced that tyreke cannot succeed or grow beyond their tremendously limited view of his skillset, despite every piece of actual, tangible evidence that claims otherwise. many seem so disturbingly convinced that just because they say tyreke cannot, he will not, as if they hold some much loftier position of prognostication than the rest of us mere mortals who choose not to debate in absolutes. i ceased arguing the point a couple of weeks ago, as my grad student workload became too weighty to support the writing of any further responses to the inane babble of a horrendously vocal minority. i don't foresee but an occasional lift of that embargo, either, as it requires much more energy than one would think to argue with a doll and its eternity of repeated drawstring utterances...

Gee, I missed your posts! Well said by the way... Now back to my crystal ball..........