Desert Island Music Draft Thread *** draft is over ***
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I missed out on A Rush of Blood to the Head earlier, which has my two favorite Coldplay songs on it (Clocks and The Scientist). Even so, I cannot go without some Coldplay on my island, and this album has several outstanding tracks.
Coldplay - Parachutes - 2000
Don't Panic, Everything's Not Lost, Shiver, and Yellow are all really great tracks. Some of Coldplay's finest work.
Coldplay - Parachutes - 2000
Don't Panic, Everything's Not Lost, Shiver, and Yellow are all really great tracks. Some of Coldplay's finest work.
Again, you need to read more carefully. That is part of the things it has in common with other double albums. All double albums are counted as a sale of each album when you buy it. Just like this one. (Having each sale of a double album count as 2 is the driving reason behind why any double albums are even made)
And again, Slim, where in the definition of double album do they have to be released at the same time? In the end, they form together for one album. Also, your rules state nothing in particular about double albums and how they can or cannot be drafted. If you are enacting a rule where a double album can only be selected if it is released simultaneously, then I'll abide by it.
I see I pretty much can't win here as the whole team has showed up, so I'll make my decision in the morning. I'd just like a little bit better reasons.
And again, Slim, where in the definition of double album do they have to be released at the same time? In the end, they form together for one album. Also, your rules state nothing in particular about double albums and how they can or cannot be drafted. If you are enacting a rule where a double album can only be selected if it is released simultaneously, then I'll abide by it.
I see I pretty much can't win here as the whole team has showed up, so I'll make my decision in the morning. I'd just like a little bit better reasons.
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For the same reason I could only choose one Lord of the Rings movie in the movie thread? 
They were filmed at once and intended to tell one story, but released at different times and you had to "buy" each separately.
They were filmed at once and intended to tell one story, but released at different times and you had to "buy" each separately.
I have a good example, but I can't use it as it would tip my hand on my next few picks, but I'm agreeing with the majority here. Regardless of the concept, the albums were in separate distribution. Their sales were not combined, so I don't see why they should be combined as a pick. Also, the movie argument is about as solid as it gets.
The closest thing I had to a double album on my list was GNR's Use Your Illusion I+II. Thought about trying to argue it (and would have moved the twain up in my queue), but the fact was despite sharing a name and being released upon the same day (I know, I got them that morning) they were typically sold separately (not always as I was going to note) and their sales were recorded separately as well. So figured no double album.
Ok now this makes more sense to me. I was trying to understand what other double albums had been drafted here that were released under similar circumstances. I clearly am not hip to what artists are considering "double albums" since the day they used to release them at the same time in the same packaging.
I'm going with Tesla - Five Man Acoustical Jam
Gotta give some love to bands who started locally.
Five Man Acoustical Jam was a live album released in 1990 by the band Tesla, using acoustic guitars instead of electric guitars which hard rock/heavy metal bands such as Tesla were known for. The biggest hit from the album was the song "Signs", a cover version originally from the band Five Man Electrical Band, who also had a hit with the song.
Gotta give some love to bands who started locally.
Five Man Acoustical Jam was a live album released in 1990 by the band Tesla, using acoustic guitars instead of electric guitars which hard rock/heavy metal bands such as Tesla were known for. The biggest hit from the album was the song "Signs", a cover version originally from the band Five Man Electrical Band, who also had a hit with the song.
OK, I already have one album by Dido, but I want the other as well:
Dido - Life for Rent (2003)
Not going to say too much here, as according to allmusic.com:
So reread what I like about No Angel, and it applies here, too.
And a bit from wiki about the album:
I am still trying to fit in probably my favorite band of all in some ways, but am trying to figure out the best way to do so.....
Dido - Life for Rent (2003)
Not going to say too much here, as according to allmusic.com:
So reread what I like about No Angel, and it applies here, too.
And a bit from wiki about the album:
I am still trying to fit in probably my favorite band of all in some ways, but am trying to figure out the best way to do so.....
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The success of this album also led to MTV's Unplugged series, so those who picked recordings of those concerts owe Tesla some thanks.
Although it seems that Tesla never got as big as they should have outside Sacramento, whenever I turn on the metal station on my XM they always seem to be raving about how awesome Tesla was. Nice to see them getting all their due 20 years later.
Although it seems that Tesla never got as big as they should have outside Sacramento, whenever I turn on the metal station on my XM they always seem to be raving about how awesome Tesla was. Nice to see them getting all their due 20 years later.
I believe that was only the case for certifying albums as platinum. That didn't apply to the Billboard charts, and an album like London Calling wouldn't have charted twice like the SoaD albums or Use Your Illusion I/II which were released separately precisely so G'n'R could claim to be the first band to debut albums at 1 & 2 on the charts simultaneously.
Also you couldn't buy the other double albums on the list separately if you only liked one of the discs.
I know Wikipedia isn't a credible source, but if you were to look up London Calling (a double album) it would say it was the Clash's third album, Sandanista! (a TRIPLE album) would be labeled as their fourth album and Combat Rock is labeled as their fifth. Conversely Use Your Illusion I is listed as G'n'R's second album and UYRII is listed as their third. If you look up Mezmerize the Wikipedia entry calls it their fourth album and Hypnotize as their fifth.
Lastly - one of the rules of this draft is "original releases only" - so if you were to consider them a single double-album then by rule you can only pick the original release which is the first disc.
One humorous note about this - The Clash actually made London Calling a double album to screw over their record label (they required CBS to sell it at the same price as a single album and figured it would drive up costs).
Also you couldn't buy the other double albums on the list separately if you only liked one of the discs.
I know Wikipedia isn't a credible source, but if you were to look up London Calling (a double album) it would say it was the Clash's third album, Sandanista! (a TRIPLE album) would be labeled as their fourth album and Combat Rock is labeled as their fifth. Conversely Use Your Illusion I is listed as G'n'R's second album and UYRII is listed as their third. If you look up Mezmerize the Wikipedia entry calls it their fourth album and Hypnotize as their fifth.
Lastly - one of the rules of this draft is "original releases only" - so if you were to consider them a single double-album then by rule you can only pick the original release which is the first disc.
One humorous note about this - The Clash actually made London Calling a double album to screw over their record label (they required CBS to sell it at the same price as a single album and figured it would drive up costs).
I'll ignore that.
Should I have done?
Allmusic categorizes Tesla as rock; I don't listen to much rock, and could not say that I've listened to any rock that couldn't be described as mainstream. Also, please be advised that I'm not from Sacramento (or, indeed, anywhere in California), so while it may seem intuitive to you to have been familiar with what is a local band to you, for someone on the east coast, who's not a rock enthusiast in the first place, when should I have had occasion to have heard of them?
Should I have done?
Allmusic categorizes Tesla as rock; I don't listen to much rock, and could not say that I've listened to any rock that couldn't be described as mainstream. Also, please be advised that I'm not from Sacramento (or, indeed, anywhere in California), so while it may seem intuitive to you to have been familiar with what is a local band to you, for someone on the east coast, who's not a rock enthusiast in the first place, when should I have had occasion to have heard of them?
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I'm going with Tesla - Five Man Acoustical Jam
Gotta give some love to bands who started locally.
Five Man Acoustical Jam was a live album released in 1990 by the band Tesla, using acoustic guitars instead of electric guitars which hard rock/heavy metal bands such as Tesla were known for. The biggest hit from the album was the song "Signs", a cover version originally from the band Five Man Electrical Band, who also had a hit with the song.
Gotta give some love to bands who started locally.
Five Man Acoustical Jam was a live album released in 1990 by the band Tesla, using acoustic guitars instead of electric guitars which hard rock/heavy metal bands such as Tesla were known for. The biggest hit from the album was the song "Signs", a cover version originally from the band Five Man Electrical Band, who also had a hit with the song.
That was my next pick. Perhaps I should have gone with Tesla, but I'm not sure if Odelay would have been there when my turn came back to me. Back to the drawing board...
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Okay, who the bleep are you and what have you done with our Mr. S£im?
I'm sorry but I just wanted you to give me a better reason for why I couldn't make that pick. Instead of doing so, you moved on and pdx stepped up and gave the right reasons. I'd rather drop this issue now. If you must continue it, do it in PM.
What can I say; I'm not exactly known for letting matters drop around here.
You may well have, but the reason that I gave you was good enough. I'm not obligated to give you the "right reason according to tradepeja," or "the right reason according to pdxKingsfan," or "the right reason according to anybody else," quite frankly. The reason I gave you was the "right reason," and if you didn't like it, that's your problem.
And the reason why I'm posting this here and not in a PM is so that everybody else knows that this ruling applies to them, too. I'm doing this to avoid any further ambiguity or misunderstanding.
You may well have, but the reason that I gave you was good enough. I'm not obligated to give you the "right reason according to tradepeja," or "the right reason according to pdxKingsfan," or "the right reason according to anybody else," quite frankly. The reason I gave you was the "right reason," and if you didn't like it, that's your problem.
And the reason why I'm posting this here and not in a PM is so that everybody else knows that this ruling applies to them, too. I'm doing this to avoid any further ambiguity or misunderstanding.
Not big enough, apparently...
And, if by "unplugged," you are referring to MTV, it may be worth noting that I don't watch MTV. And, even if I were of a mind to watch it, it wasn't an option for me at that time: I was fifteen years old in 1990, and my parents were not of a mind to pay for cable. Especially since we lived in an area where we could get twenty-five channels (a lot for those days) with a clothes hanger, and forty with a half-decent antenna.
And, if by "unplugged," you are referring to MTV, it may be worth noting that I don't watch MTV. And, even if I were of a mind to watch it, it wasn't an option for me at that time: I was fifteen years old in 1990, and my parents were not of a mind to pay for cable. Especially since we lived in an area where we could get twenty-five channels (a lot for those days) with a clothes hanger, and forty with a half-decent antenna.
willing to bet that this album would still be around for the 20th pick, but i'm starting to lose focus on order.
erasure - wild! (1989)
not sure how mainstream these guys are. the group is made of vocal dynamo andy bell and vince clark. i've listened to music from most of their albums, and this is one of their best collections. if you haven't heard of them (and that is highly likely, if you're not asian or didn't have an asian sibling growing up in the 80's!), give it a whirl. i hope you like it.
from wiki:
Although the album did not generate any entries on the Billboard Hot 100, Wild! is highly regarded amongst Erasure's fanbase as one of their best albums, containing now-classic songs like "Blue Savannah" and "Star." In the U.S., several songs gained exposure on college radio and three songs charted on Billboard's Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart.
In the UK, Wild! continued Erasure's mainstream success: it became their second consecutive number one album and four singles hit the UK Top 20. The album also charted well in Germany, where it hit number sixteen.
It was while promoting the Wild! album that Erasure launched the first of their many elaborately staged concert tours - this one featuring gigantic sets and props and several costume changes for band members Vince Clarke and Andy Bell, as well as several back-up singers and dancers.
erasure - wild! (1989)
not sure how mainstream these guys are. the group is made of vocal dynamo andy bell and vince clark. i've listened to music from most of their albums, and this is one of their best collections. if you haven't heard of them (and that is highly likely, if you're not asian or didn't have an asian sibling growing up in the 80's!), give it a whirl. i hope you like it.
from wiki:
Although the album did not generate any entries on the Billboard Hot 100, Wild! is highly regarded amongst Erasure's fanbase as one of their best albums, containing now-classic songs like "Blue Savannah" and "Star." In the U.S., several songs gained exposure on college radio and three songs charted on Billboard's Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart.
In the UK, Wild! continued Erasure's mainstream success: it became their second consecutive number one album and four singles hit the UK Top 20. The album also charted well in Germany, where it hit number sixteen.
It was while promoting the Wild! album that Erasure launched the first of their many elaborately staged concert tours - this one featuring gigantic sets and props and several costume changes for band members Vince Clarke and Andy Bell, as well as several back-up singers and dancers.
And now we're in the fun of the competition. All the strategy has been employed, the tears have been shed for the losses, the happy dances have been danced for the miracle pick ups, everything remaining on my list feels pretty secure. Of course, this may all be undue cockiness that will leave me crying at the keyboard again in a couple of rounds, but at this moment I feel good about it.
My next pick:
The Presidents of the United States of America -- The Presidents of the United States of America (1995) -- How to classify this band for those who haven't heard them... hmmm... Seattle dork rock, maybe? Don't know. Don't care, really. I just love this band. And I love this CD. There are few in my collection -- either the group going to the island, or my actual complete CD collection -- that make me as instantly happy as this CD does. It's unabashedly silly. The lyrics on this album focus on canned peaches, a misbehaving pet feline, an adventurous spider, an agoraphobic boll weevil, a sweet tooth that takes the form of a demon temptress, and an old ex-musician jamming on his back porch with a makeshift band that includes "fifteen hundred bass drum luggin' bug eyed monkeys." Yet, somehow, they still rock. And, as if all that's not enough (and it pretty much is), they've also made appearances on "Bill Nye the Science Guy," an accomplishment in and of itself worthy of several cool points.
My next pick:
The Presidents of the United States of America -- The Presidents of the United States of America (1995) -- How to classify this band for those who haven't heard them... hmmm... Seattle dork rock, maybe? Don't know. Don't care, really. I just love this band. And I love this CD. There are few in my collection -- either the group going to the island, or my actual complete CD collection -- that make me as instantly happy as this CD does. It's unabashedly silly. The lyrics on this album focus on canned peaches, a misbehaving pet feline, an adventurous spider, an agoraphobic boll weevil, a sweet tooth that takes the form of a demon temptress, and an old ex-musician jamming on his back porch with a makeshift band that includes "fifteen hundred bass drum luggin' bug eyed monkeys." Yet, somehow, they still rock. And, as if all that's not enough (and it pretty much is), they've also made appearances on "Bill Nye the Science Guy," an accomplishment in and of itself worthy of several cool points.
Heh, do you know what its actually about? I'm sure you do....and it can't be discussed on this board.
That's actually been debunked by the band, who say that the song is, in fact, just about peaches -- specifically a girl the lead singer used to have a crush on and the fact she had a peach tree in her front yard.
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