Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
In order to avoid future problems however, I suggest that if anybody else makes a similar boo boo in the future, that bozzwell shall automatically be awarded this for his next pick:
"Classic" Ride Draft Thread - DRAFT COMPLETED!
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In order to avoid future problems however, I suggest that if anybody else makes a similar boo boo in the future, that bozzwell shall automatically be awarded this for his next pick:
In order to avoid future problems however, I suggest that if anybody else makes a similar boo boo in the future, that bozzwell shall automatically be awarded this for his next pick:
Just making sure I read that right. Mua ha ha!
When VF gets back it would be nice to get a clarification on whether or not Bozz's original pick would be allowable had he picked a year other than 2008. I'm not sure we ever reached a resolution on that one.
bozzwell
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In order to avoid future problems however, I suggest that if anybody else makes a similar boo boo in the future, that bozzwell shall automatically be awarded this for his next pick:
Says the guy who burned a pick on hairdresser car (M3)...
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Says the guy who burned a pick on hairdresser car (M3)...
Hey, not my fault that you are a fan of the other luxuxy car company.
I mean nothing quite says luxury like merging with Chrysler, right?
Focusing on the luxury aspect is selling BMW short, performance has always been the real reason to go with a Bimmer.
But I wouldn't hold the Chrysler merger against Merc - that's the one American brand I'd still consider buying today.
But I wouldn't hold the Chrysler merger against Merc - that's the one American brand I'd still consider buying today.
Gary
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2005 Nissan NISMO Skyline GT-R (Z-Tune)
With an 8000 RPM redline this was a screamer. I actually came REALLY close to importing one of these to the USA, but it wouldn't have been street legal since it is right hand drive (like the cars in the UK). The GT-R Z-Tune has an amazing 500hp 400tq with all wheel drive. Anyone who has driven cars like the WRX STi or the Mitsu EVO will tell you AWD kills anything when you launch it correctly. The model in this post has a twin turbo inline 6cyl engine which can easily be tuned to over 1000hp with a few minor adjustments.
With an 8000 RPM redline this was a screamer. I actually came REALLY close to importing one of these to the USA, but it wouldn't have been street legal since it is right hand drive (like the cars in the UK). The GT-R Z-Tune has an amazing 500hp 400tq with all wheel drive. Anyone who has driven cars like the WRX STi or the Mitsu EVO will tell you AWD kills anything when you launch it correctly. The model in this post has a twin turbo inline 6cyl engine which can easily be tuned to over 1000hp with a few minor adjustments.
Löwenherz
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All right, I've resisted long enough (one whole round) and now I'm spiralling into the dark precedent set by Madame Gadget.
Bigfoot (2005 Ford Super Duty)
There are literally more than a dozen "Bigfoots" out there and I don't even know which one is pictured above, but I suppose I'll take the most recent 2005 Ford Super Duty with a 572 c.i. Ford Hemi and 66 by 43 by 25 in. tires.
And plainly put, while G3 has her explosions and rocketery, I'm of simpler tastes ... just driving onto and crushing the abandoned cars left over in my desolate city will be enough joy for me.
Of course, I'll also have the option to take this monster outside the city limits for a little off-roading. And what child of the 80s didn't at one time dream of being behind the wheel of the mighty Bigfoot?
(rhetorical ... no hand raisings!
)
Bigfoot (2005 Ford Super Duty)
There are literally more than a dozen "Bigfoots" out there and I don't even know which one is pictured above, but I suppose I'll take the most recent 2005 Ford Super Duty with a 572 c.i. Ford Hemi and 66 by 43 by 25 in. tires.
And plainly put, while G3 has her explosions and rocketery, I'm of simpler tastes ... just driving onto and crushing the abandoned cars left over in my desolate city will be enough joy for me.
Of course, I'll also have the option to take this monster outside the city limits for a little off-roading. And what child of the 80s didn't at one time dream of being behind the wheel of the mighty Bigfoot?
(rhetorical ... no hand raisings!
)
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Okay, I am going to completely ignore that last pick as if it was never made. Does not mean I know exactly which way I want to go here. Just means I am studiously ignoring that...thing.
Löwenherz
Starter
You know, sometimes your words ... they hurt
Oh well, I'll feel better after I pancake your V8 Interceptor
bozzwell
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Hey, not my fault that you are a fan of the other luxuxy car company.
I mean nothing quite says luxury like merging with Chrysler, right?
1. I like Chrysler.
2. You do realise that BMW's are now produced in what used to be East Germany, by "grizzled" veterans of car manufacturing who gave the World Wartburgs (World's only 2 stroke "sedan") and Trabants (see below)?
6th
Homer Fan Since 1985
1. I like Chrysler.
2. You do realise that BMW's are now produced in what used to be East Germany, by "grizzled" veterans of car manufacturing who gave the World Wartburgs (World's only 2 stroke "sedan") and Trabants (see below)?
Oh, that is too funny!
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
2005 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Coupe
See this should make Bozzwell happy -- a Chrysler product from the branch of DaimlerChrysler that actually knew how to make sports cars -- Dodge.
A low mean 500hp V10 powered piece of headturning car art, this is precisely the type of completely impractical toy I would never own in real life. But this ain't real life. This is the apocalypse baby! And you gotta love a production coupe that still features "double bubbles" in the roof over the heads of the driver and passenger to make room in case they want to wear helmets. Almost went for the first generation of this car, that was so stripped down and focused on racing there was no radio, no air conditioning, no anti-lock brakes -- nothing except a big engine and a gas pedal. Would have taken me back to my first car.
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GoGoGadget
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I flirted my way into a ride in one of these a few years ago and, other than the usual comfort issues one encounters when mixing sportscars and long legs, me like. If I were picking any new cars, this definitely would have made my list. Maybe a year or two earlier, though, as I was most fond of the very first body style.
My short and to-the-point response would be "No." It's one thing to pick different years of things like the Corvette. Once a very original and unique car has been selected, however, it seems a little redundant to allow minor variations.
I'd say let's wait and see. If this actually comes up at some point, we can discuss it then.
GoGoGadget
All-Star
Okie doke. Looking over my list, I've got just a couple more rounds before I get into the more quirky and (hopefully) safe picks. These early rounds, though... always hard to make a decision when you know that the car(s) you didn't pick likely won't make it back to you. Of the more well known cars I've got coming up, though, this is the one I would be saddest to lose. My fourth pick:
1955 Porsche 356 Speedster -- The first time I saw this car in person, I think I actually swooned. That's reason enough to want one.
1955 Porsche 356 Speedster -- The first time I saw this car in person, I think I actually swooned. That's reason enough to want one.
I'm fine with that, it does change my draft strategy somewhat. And I'd point out that we have had 2 Mustangs selected that are part of the same generation.My short and to-the-point response would be "No." It's one thing to pick different years of things like the Corvette. Once a very original and unique car has been selected, however, it seems a little redundant to allow minor variations.
I'd say let's wait and see. If this actually comes up at some point, we can discuss it then.
pdxKingsFan said:
So are you protesting one of the picks?
There are like a bazillion cars out there to pick from. My personal opinion is that if you're finding a way to pick another version of a car that's already been drafted, you (used in the generic "you" and not meaning you pdxKingsFan) might want to just look at a different car.
I created this thread so people could have fun and was very glad some car neophytes got involved. I just don't want it to get too technical because that takes all the fun out of it.
I'm not a car savant or anything. I know what my favorite cars are, of course, and I do have a good memory - having lived through most of the automotive era.
Not at all, just that the original rules were year by year so now I am a little confused. It is why I've avoided modern cars at the top of my list, since year to year distinctions are a lot less major than they were up to the mid-70s.
So here are some questions this leaves for me: Does Bozz's 1975 Porsche 911 pick now exclude all 911's between 74-89, even certain special editions? Does Gary's 2008 Novitec Ferrari exclude me from picking a different year F430 straight from the Ferrari factory, or one from a different tuner?
Dude, You're really making this much more complicated than I ever intended. Primarily I think it should go Year-Make-Model. As far as bozzwell is concerned, he didn't realize the Bugatti had been picked previously if I'm reading things correctly so the rest of the stuff should be irrelevant.
As far as you picking a different 911 than the 1975 already selected, feel free. If it's a different year, I personally see no problem but I think you're splitting hairs as I'm not sure what you're hinting at.
My advice? Make your picks. If people object, we'll deal with it then. I think you know where I'm coming from and what would most likely be considered a stretch of the rules as I originally intended.
As I said above:
As far as you picking a different 911 than the 1975 already selected, feel free. If it's a different year, I personally see no problem but I think you're splitting hairs as I'm not sure what you're hinting at.
My advice? Make your picks. If people object, we'll deal with it then. I think you know where I'm coming from and what would most likely be considered a stretch of the rules as I originally intended.
As I said above:
Hope that clarifies it a little. If you like, we can discuss this further via PMs but I'm really NOT so much a car expert I can actually judge some of the really technical points.
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Here are the rules, as posted in the OP:
If you want to pick a car that is pretty much identical to one someone else has picked, my thought would be it's up to you to prove it's so different as to be ... well ... different. And not a variation only some kind of incredible car geek (and I mean that in the kindest possible way ) would appreciate.
I'll be honest. I personally am not that up on current cars. I really prefer the older models. If someone else wants to jump in here with their two cents, feel free BUT I really didn't want a lot of rules I'd have to interpret.
If you want to pick a car that is pretty much identical to one someone else has picked, my thought would be it's up to you to prove it's so different as to be ... well ... different. And not a variation only some kind of incredible car geek (and I mean that in the kindest possible way
) would appreciate.I'll be honest. I personally am not that up on current cars. I really prefer the older models. If someone else wants to jump in here with their two cents, feel free BUT I really didn't want a lot of rules I'd have to interpret.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
this was kind of my interpretation. there has been a shift in that I think once upon a time the changes in body style came much more often, wheras today cars will often have 5-7 year runs with the same body. But not sure why that should change things much, other than perhaps just meaning that there are more viable options the further back you go.
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Sorry, wasn't trying to make things confusing. I swear. Most of the cars I want are pretty unique!
No problem. You're obviously a real connoisseur of cars. I, on the other hand, belong to the "Oh, isn't it purty?" category. If I make too big a mistake in a ruling, just let me know.
GoGoGadget
All-Star
Just to throw in my couple pennies, I was under the impression that year/make/model meant just that.
For instance, since VF already picked the 1957 Ford Thunderbird, I could still technically take the 1956 Ford Thunderbird that was already on my list, despite the fact they're nearly identical. Don't know that there would be much of a voting advantage in taking a car that is essentially the same as someone else's pick, and the similarity in this case has been reason enough for me to take it off my list, but the rules (as written) don't seem to disallow it.
For instance, since VF already picked the 1957 Ford Thunderbird, I could still technically take the 1956 Ford Thunderbird that was already on my list, despite the fact they're nearly identical. Don't know that there would be much of a voting advantage in taking a car that is essentially the same as someone else's pick, and the similarity in this case has been reason enough for me to take it off my list, but the rules (as written) don't seem to disallow it.
Hey Gary, do you believe that a stock Ferarri 430 is different than your tuner version?
I don't want it, but I would hope the last remaining 430 on earth isn't the product of some Germans that think they can make a Ferarri better than Ferrari can. But if that's the case I guess you're just going to have to live with that.
I don't want it, but I would hope the last remaining 430 on earth isn't the product of some Germans that think they can make a Ferarri better than Ferrari can. But if that's the case I guess you're just going to have to live with that.
