Carmichael Dave innuendo, "We are officially at Defcon One"
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ninjabiscuit
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GM is don't believe is going to happen, personally, although I fervently hope so too. Coach: Please!
SacTownKid
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If you look at Karls coaching history one thing pops out at you and it's that he typically has played to his best players strengths and adapted his strategy accordingly. As long as Cousins and the group can get along with his personality because he is by no means a pushover in practice, then you don't really have to worry about his usage of star players. He's coached fast paced teams, slower paced teams, defense first team, pick and roll teams, motion teams, etc.
ninjabiscuit
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Same.
Siranthony
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My two on the current situation as I think I know it. IF Cousins is against Karl coming then he is not really serious about winning. Look I have worked for some difficult bosses. But I learned something from all of them. As much as I did not like it, I was very productive working for them. You just have to figure out what they want and give it to them and you are ok.
I LOVE Cousins. He can be one of the greatest to ever play. But if he can't stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen. Karl is a proven winner. We will win with him weather Cousins is here or not. This team needs a change now. I don't see how another 30 games of this can end well for this franchise.
I LOVE Cousins. He can be one of the greatest to ever play. But if he can't stand the heat he should get out of the kitchen. Karl is a proven winner. We will win with him weather Cousins is here or not. This team needs a change now. I don't see how another 30 games of this can end well for this franchise.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I told you before if you kept parroting management talking points in big bright bold colors I was going to delete those posts.
So, defending the Vivek/FO (by posting some credible sources/articles) and when clearly they are maligned by some posters is a NO in this board?
How can we have the other side's perspective then if you'll keep censoring those post that gives defense to those that are maligned?
How can we have the other side's perspective then if you'll keep censoring those post that gives defense to those that are maligned?
Forgive me in advance, but your conspiracy narrative is baseless and sort of paranoid/schizophrenic. Let me clear where Vivek/FO stands on this one base on credible articles out there already.
Vivek/FO were actually very high on Cousins even at the very start that they went ahead into signing him for extension, despite the reported reluctance of Malone on giving Cousins his contract extension. Unlike Malone, they are smart enough at the very start and already figured this franchise cannot go anywhere without Cousins's enormous talent. They did not have second thoughts - unlike Malone. The issue was actually mentioned as one of the number of cumulative reasons why Malone was fired. It does not make sense to think Vivek/FO does not want Cousins on the team, when all along Vivek defended the decision publicly to sign Cousins for contract extension.
Vivek Ranadivé speaks out on Malone firing
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2014/12/17/7409997/vivek-ranadive-michael-malone-firing
"I've been beaten before," he said. "They said that Seattle had won, and we would never be able to keep this team. People said that Cousins was toxic, and he was a cancer and we should get rid of him. They said that Rudy [Gay] was terrible, and even if he came, he would never stay. They said if Isaiah [Thomas] left, the team would fall apart. So look, I'm surrounded by really smart people, and they give me great advice. They call the shots, and I support them."
Michael Malone opposed extensions for DeMarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2014/...osed-extensions-for-demarcus-cousins-rudy-gay
Sam Amick is delivering the other side of the story, emphasis mine.
From Malone's reluctance to endorse the offering of contract extensions for DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gayto his preference that departed point guard Isaiah Thomas was re-signed in free agency to the pursuit of a new lead assistant coach during the summer, there were disagreements about personnel and style of play at every turn that brought them all to this tipping point.
And BTW, the hiring of Karl seems to be complicated "financially" and "timing-wise" according to my source. Cousins is willing to play for any coach I was told.
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ParniValjak
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According to carmichaeldave, its Gentry
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
That I believe is management's alternative. Same guy they tried to backstab Malone with, that Malone thought he had fought off with Corbin hire.
And gee just typing that, I wonder why we can't win on the court, when all our energy is spent playing office politics behind the scenes.
Siranthony
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I'm not an expert in any way. But I looked up Alvin Gentry. It appears he has 2 winning seasons out of 12 as a head coach. It's not very inspiring for me.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Three words: Lebron to Chicago
The Hammer
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I don't think I've seen an NBA team run this poorly (save perhaps Sterling... but that was actually on purpose)... really ever.
Chubbs
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This again?
I liked you more when all you posted was height of various players with and w/o shoes.
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randymoss1881
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My head will explode if we hire Gentry or Brooks.
NowImLost
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ParniValjak
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Too many chefs in the kitchen spoils the broth!
The politics is killing this franchise. I wish we could just hit a restart button and start again from 18 months ago. This is amateurs hour at its worst.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Chubbs
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Here's what is happening in my view.
Vivek broke his toy. He ****ing broke it. And now he has to ask nicely to play with it again.
If Vivek had his way, Mullin would have been coach already. Then the next guy was Mark Jackson, now it's Karl. Seems whoever he talks to last is the guy.
And now the rest of the owners, Boogie's agents, etc, they don't trust him to make decisions. He rushed into both hiring and firing Malone and it's been a disaster.
They're right not to trust him, and there should be pushback. When the owner allows devastating decisions to be made with no plan whatsoever, he stops getting to make those decisions without being questioned at every turn.
And right now it's very public. No more 'behind the scenes' in sac. All the junior high drama is playing out on Twitter for all to see. And it's ugly.
Vivek broke his toy. He ****ing broke it. And now he has to ask nicely to play with it again.
If Vivek had his way, Mullin would have been coach already. Then the next guy was Mark Jackson, now it's Karl. Seems whoever he talks to last is the guy.
And now the rest of the owners, Boogie's agents, etc, they don't trust him to make decisions. He rushed into both hiring and firing Malone and it's been a disaster.
They're right not to trust him, and there should be pushback. When the owner allows devastating decisions to be made with no plan whatsoever, he stops getting to make those decisions without being questioned at every turn.
And right now it's very public. No more 'behind the scenes' in sac. All the junior high drama is playing out on Twitter for all to see. And it's ugly.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Gamethreadotron 3000, is that you?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Vivek doesn't own that 60% majority on his own but rather as part of the pool of owners who all chipped in some cash. Sorta like people getting in on a timeshare in Hawaii except Hawaii is always raining and the timeshare is actually a cardboard box that Vivek keeps trying to light on fire.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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Gentry isn't a flashy name, but he's not a bad coach. He's not one that I would get upset over. He's not Mark Jackson or VDN.
Glenn
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Let's give it a chance. It's been a whole year and a half. I know I can sound impulsive but let's see. If Fegan dislikes the team, that is one thing but if he or Cousins dislikes Karl, that's another. If Boogie wants to continue with the reputation as an immature trouble maker, he's got the right agent and I wish him luck in future all star games and national teams.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Isn't the complaint with Karl and not Vivek?
macadocious
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Anyone worried about Karl dealing with Cousins needs to remember that he Coached GP successfully for many years.
Does anybody in the ownership group or FO management live in Sacramento? Right now, today, let's have the whole group sit down together in
Sacramento and work out a de ion before dinner tonight. Just remember this isaSacramento team we are talking about, and, yes, Sacramento is in the heart of Northern California. And just remember that I saw good, no, excellent basketball here 70 years ago. Make it happen again.
Hey, look outside, it's raining hard in Sacramento. Good things can happen oh ye harbingers of disaster.
Sacramento and work out a de ion before dinner tonight. Just remember this isaSacramento team we are talking about, and, yes, Sacramento is in the heart of Northern California. And just remember that I saw good, no, excellent basketball here 70 years ago. Make it happen again.
Hey, look outside, it's raining hard in Sacramento. Good things can happen oh ye harbingers of disaster.
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