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Bricklayer
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Rasheed Wallace is 34 years old. Not to mention a rather extraordinarily overrated player at this point in his career (actually for most of his career). 13pts 7rebs? No thx.
upinsmoke
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
oh no, not that excuse again. That excuse has been tattooed to Sheed's *** for his entire career. It was the same thing in Portland -- they are such great rebounders that poor lil Sheedy Weedy can't grab any boards. He averages 6.9rebs a game over his 12 year career. He is simply a patheitc rebounder. Always has been.
That's a sidebar to the major issue -- he is old. And a tad nutty. Not what this team needs.
upinsmoke
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I would not be dead set on Sheed there are other options, still we never know how it will work out unless we try something. Miller is not going to be getting any better anytime soon. A side note is Elton Brand has not made a commitment to the Clips.
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sactownfan
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Although brad may be helping Hawes grow as a player i think if we could get a 1st round pick, a more promising young player, or get rid of Kenny Thomas or SAR.... i would like him to be traded.
But no way for Sheed
But no way for Sheed
upinsmoke
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The reason i mentioned him first is he has an expiring contract. Totally open to other options.
KCKingsCountry
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Some of you have some patience Miller can be traded off for a real superstar.
Heuge
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Miller for a real superstar...hmmm....not sure if I want to patiently wait for that.
bajaden
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I seriously doubt we can get a superstar for Brad. I'm sort of tired of the term superstar anyway. Its a term thats used a little too loosely. However, I do think we could get more than Wallace for him. I wouldn't want Wallace. As Bricky said, he's 34 yrs old and has never lived up to his press clippings.
There aren't that many good centers out there anymore. Shaq is at the end of his career. Olden may be the next great center in the west, but who really knows. Hawes shows promise. Kaman is pretty good. Camby is getting up there in age. Yao Ming is probably the best in the west and Howard is probably the best in the east.
My point is that Miller is a pretty good center when compared with the rest of the field. At least this year. Which is why it might be a good off season to trade him. Who knows what next year holds. If you can get some value for him, then keeping him around just to be a mentor to Hawes is an expensive luxury.
SacKings7
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Hence him being overrated. Nobody said he wasn't talented.
Aenadin
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How about we trade Miller To the Bulls for Tyrus thomas and some other filler to make the salary match throw in one of our second round picks too to entice em.... since ben wallace was traded they are lacking a center... and a passing center to match hinrich and gordon's shooting is a good combination in return we get a guy with a last nameThomas (that we will love 
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lol every thomas ive seen int he nba has been a joke... kenny thomas and isiah thomas lol they may share some genes some where
)lol every thomas ive seen int he nba has been a joke... kenny thomas and isiah thomas lol
they may share some genes some where
bajaden
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How about we trade Miller To the Bulls for Tyrus thomas and some other filler to make the salary match throw in one of our second round picks too to entice em.... since ben wallace was traded they are lacking a center... and a passing center to match hinrich and gordon's shooting is a good combination in return we get a guy with a last nameThomas (that we will love
lol every thomas ive seen int he nba has been a joke... kenny thomas and isiah thomas lol
I'm sorry, I just can't let this go by. I think that Isiah is an idiot when it comes to running a team or being a GM. But he was one great player, and certainly doesn't deserve to be paired with Kenny Thomas. Your talking about one of the top 100 players to ever suit up. By the way Kurt Thomas wasn't that bad a player.
LPKingsFan
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I could see Brad to the Pistons, but not for Sheed. It'd be for a combo of Maxiell and Dyess, with Antonio going to a 3rd team (Toronto, perhaps) and the Kings getting expirings alongside Max.
I could also see Brad going to Toronto outright. They've got nearly $13 million in expirings (Rasho, Garbo), the 17th pick, and possibly a spare PG (T.J. Ford.). They could also potentially use Artest or Salmons. I could see a deal being worked out here.
I could also see Brad going to Toronto outright. They've got nearly $13 million in expirings (Rasho, Garbo), the 17th pick, and possibly a spare PG (T.J. Ford.). They could also potentially use Artest or Salmons. I could see a deal being worked out here.
I'm not sure who would want him, but his value is high at the moment and his contract is bad for a rebuilding team. I think we should look to move him this summer if we really are serious about rebuilding. I still think he makes tons of sense as a 4 plaing next to Yao, and as Yao depth in case Yao gets hurt again.
upinsmoke
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Baron playing next to Artest
. Like Coach Theus said "we are currently the skinniest team in the league". What better way start to fix that, I hope nellie runs Davis out of town just like he has done with plenty of other stars and GP works his magic.
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AriesMar27
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i agree.... miller/thomas/williams to phx for shaq.... granted all their contract expire the same year but damn... why not?
Well we won't be after he and Ron talk Geoff into picking Daniel Artest in the second round!
Just kidding!
sure, then we can ship SAR/Mikki Moore/John Salmons to Cleveland for Lebron!
As for why not (since you asked):
1. Kenny Thomas is UNTRADEABLE. Any trade involving Kenny Thomas where we get anyone with a pulse back whose contract is better than Kenny's is fantasy. The only time Kenny Thomas will be tradable will be when his contract is expiring. So hold off on the KT trades for a couple years
2. Brad Miller won't net you a starter or star let alone a superstar. He's over 30. He's got a long and large contract. Although he had a bounceback year he has shown questionable passion for the game. He also can be considered a defensive liability. There are places that could use him, yes. All you could hope to get in return would be a draft pick and expirings or perhaps a collection of average talent like the Webber deal. Players that make what Brad makes perform at a much higher level than Brad does.
3. Division rivals generally don't trade.
4. Shaq Just got to the desert and is seeming to fit in well there. Also why would they bring in a guy who doesnt fit their system so they could improve defense and rebounding only to trade him for a guy who doesnt fit their system and makes their defense and rebounding worse?
5. Shaq showed this year he doesn't provide the same effort and intensity level on a loser as he does on a winner.
6. Shaq is old and will provide little to no benefit to a team that is not a contender. By the time the team is a contender he will be too old to help.
upinsmoke
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My view is if the kings are truly rebuilding and did trade bibby why not move Miller? Even if all that we can get back in return is a few draft picks it would be worth it, Miller is not even being a good mentor to Hawes with his on court behavior so might as well give Spencer the mins.
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