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jdbraver
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Is Brandon Roy done? I think we would have a good shot at him or arenas.
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Unless its for a vet minimum salary his knee can go at any time. Better off gambling on greg oden.
The thing is that the new CBA amnesty clause is going to have a two-tiered waiver system for amnesties. Tier 1: take him at full contract if you want him. Tier 2: Blind bid on the contract, top bid takes it. Both tiers are only open to teams under the salary cap (and presumably the bid cannot put them over the cap).
There aren't a lot of contenders with cap space, so if Roy is waived via amnesty, somebody who is not a contender (possibly us) is going to put in at least a minimum bid. (We don't know what a minimum bid is, but my guess is it would be at minimum contract level for the duration of his previous deal.) The Lakers/Heat/Mavs etc. won't really get a shot at him, because somebody else will take a cheap chance.
I agree that we would have a good shot at either Roy or Arenas, but the question is whether we have too much depth in the backcourt to really use them. We've got Tyreke, Jimmer, and Thornton (I assume he'll be back) who need minutes at the 1/2, Salmons is expected to do a lot of the 3, we've got Donte and Cisco who need a few minutes (and Isaiah and Honeycutt who should get a shot every now and then)...we've got a pretty full slate. Neither Roy nor Arenas would likely be happy in a highly diminished role, and they probably won't be effective enough for a big role. The price will end up being right, but it could backfire with an unhappy vet sulking in the locker room. Tough call.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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I'd take a flier on him, sure.
It may be better for us for him to sit a year out anyways. If he needs major surgury and we claimed him .. keep him on the shelf for a season while we figure out what we have in Evans, Thornton, and Jimmer. If he comes back healthy then it obviously would have been a good gamble.
I doubt a team will pay him big money .. In a low risk high reward situation I'd consider it.
It may be better for us for him to sit a year out anyways. If he needs major surgury and we claimed him .. keep him on the shelf for a season while we figure out what we have in Evans, Thornton, and Jimmer. If he comes back healthy then it obviously would have been a good gamble.
I doubt a team will pay him big money .. In a low risk high reward situation I'd consider it.
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Not sure where you are getting your info on amnesty.
This is from larry coon on espn.http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/CBA-111128/how-new-nba-deal-compares-last-one
Not sure where you think there's a conflict between Coon's description and mine. Coon is describing tier 2 and is in complete agreement with what I said. Coon didn't mention tier 1, but I've seen multiple reports on its existence...can't find them right now. I do remember specifically seeing a detail claiming tier 1 as a 48-hour waiver period where a team could claim the full-value contract.
Still, tier 1 (if it exists) is basically the same thing as making a full-value bid on the contract, which makes it a bit redundant. We can assume it doesn't exist, and the mechanics don't really change. I don't see any difference between my description and Coon's.
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The Tier 1 part. It doesnt make sense. There would have to be 2 waiting periods between tiers. And like you said if you can bid full price if you have the cap room.
Roy is still too risky. Why waste cap space now when someone else can be amnestied in the future based on salary, but still productive. Would you rather have Roy at 5 mil or say David Lee, Elton Brand etc?
Bricklayer
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No room for him with Reke and Thronton already there. Not just minutes wise, but in game too. He's like Reke in that he needs the ball, he's like both guys in that he likes to shoot. And like a lot of stars after they get old/fade with injuries, those very traits which helped make him a star will interfere with his ability to be an effective roleplayer.
Tetsujin
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Why? Just why?
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jdbraver
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The kings will never be able to attract big name talent based on market and location. The only way to get a superstar through free agency is to gamble. I doubt it would b muh of a gamble to get roy
KingsCitizen
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I think this amnesty thing with the new CBA should be able to help small markets get legit talents. Say for example, Jerry Buss suddenly decides to amnesty Kobe to get D12 paired with Pau. Small teams like the Kings with very big payroll space should easily win the bidding to get Kobe at discounted deals. But that's just a post from a crazy Laker fan from NBAdraft forum. LOL!
Anyway, I think BRoy's injury is really bad. He makes old Grant Hill look young. So I'd say, unless the Kings got the medical staff of the Suns, don't dare touch Brandon Roy.
Anyway, I think BRoy's injury is really bad. He makes old Grant Hill look young. So I'd say, unless the Kings got the medical staff of the Suns, don't dare touch Brandon Roy.
While we're at it, why don't we suppose that trees start walking around and eating mice? Then we won't have to leave a cat in the barn anymore!
TheWileyVet
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Brandon Roy is probably done and not worth anything but a cheap looksie. Too bad, he looked to have a very promising career.
Hey, why not? The 'Wolves only have control of 8 wing players right now, couldn't hurt to get another one.
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