and with the #1 pick in the 2009 NBA draft the Kings select...

[One and Done]

"Highlight" reel of Brandon Jennings vs. TAU (remember Tiago Splitter?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twl2F5iB7sA

I'm no scout, but that is an UGLY jumpshot. This highlight reel reminds me of Sebastian Telfair, undersized shoot-first point guard who can't shoot (albeit with flashy passing skills).

Why is it that when we suck enough to get a good lottery position, the draft sucks even more? Arggh...I wish Young Money was doing better, 'cuz we could sure use a flashy-passing, scoring dynamo with star swagger to boot. He's got the star swagger, but that's about it.

 

[Bricklayer]

Why is it that when we suck enough to get a good lottery position, the draft sucks even more?

Its called lack of planning, and I have been harping on it for years. All this fluttering about and harping about oh how helpess we are and gee its all just luck and you never know and its all a crapshoot etc. etc. is all just bunk. Excuses. there is always an element of luck and crapshoot to all of life, but you can sure do something about loading the dice if you understand the way the game works.

 

[Vlade4GM]

"Highlight" reel of Brandon Jennings vs. TAU (remember Tiago Splitter?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twl2F5iB7sA

I'm no scout, but that is an UGLY jumpshot. This highlight reel reminds me of Sebastian Telfair, undersized shoot-first point guard who can't shoot (albeit with flashy passing skills).

Why is it that when we suck enough to get a good lottery position, the draft sucks even more? Arggh...I wish Young Money was doing better, 'cuz we could sure use a flashy-passing, scoring dynamo with star swagger to boot. He's got the star swagger, but that's about it.

I really don't think his form is that bad. He gets it off quick enough, it's not going to hold him back from improving it. He just needs to knock off that unnecessary fade away motion (similar to what Odom does) and improve his follow through.

What makes you think he's a shoot first PG?

 

[Vlade4GM]

Its called lack of planning, and I have been harping on it for years. All this fluttering about and harping about oh how helpess we are and gee its all just luck and you never know and its all a crapshoot etc. etc. is all just bunk. Excuses. there is always an element of luck and crapshoot to all of life, but you can sure do something about loading the dice if you understand the way the game works.

Precisely. !9, 10, and 12 the last 3 years is a really pathetic return for not accomplishing much in terms of youth development or playoff success.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Precisely. !9, 10, and 12 the last 3 years is a really pathetic return for not accomplishing much in terms of youth development or playoff success.

very true, but you cant complain with who we have drafted ( aside from douby ) .. we could have made mistakes in the last 2 drafts .. we fell in the spot the last two years were at the time it seemed like we were drafting players 1 tier lower than the pick in front of us but it was almost a no brainer in who we should pick .. maybe that means petries drafting is overrated .. i dont know.

everyone knew we were going to take hawes after noah was drafted, we wanted noah and missed him by 1 pick .. we were pretty lucky thats how it went down though..

almost the same deal with thompson, we almost landed bayless but blazers stole him, thompson wasnt a no brainer but nobody else on the board stuck out after bayless was taken .. this also seems to have worked out.


but there is no way we can say this is a weak draft just yet, wayy to early to tell. I think its pretty clear we need to go point guard though.

Rubio or Jrue for me.

 

[Kings4life23]

I think the kings need to take a chance with someone like stephen curry in the draft if they could get him and fit him into the point gaurd spot with a little work on his passing and penetration he could be an elite pg in the leauge im not a big fan of beno and bobby seems like a solid backup.....

 

[creative one]

I think the kings need to take a chance with someone like stephen curry in the draft if they could get him and fit him into the point gaurd spot with a little work on his passing and penetration he could be an elite pg in the leauge im not a big fan of beno and bobby seems like a solid backup.....

If he needs work on his "passing" and "penetration", then the Kings would be best served not bringing him in at all unless we want to keep landing in the lottery. The Douby pick set us back about three years because Petrie was in "fit him into PG" mode. Instead of Douby, we could've had Rondo, Sergio Rodriguez, or Farmar.

Look, I've seen the kid many times. Point guard he is not. Point guard he never was. Point guard he'll never be.

 

[Kings4life23]

Davidson has switched him to the point and he has done fine his killer shot is going to open up his penetration and he will score or dish to the likes of kmart, cisco, and to are athletic bigs spence and thompson i think he is just what the kings need to get back to the kings of old ......

 

[One and Done]

I really don't think his form is that bad. He gets it off quick enough, it's not going to hold him back from improving it. He just needs to knock off that unnecessary fade away motion (similar to what Odom does) and improve his follow through.

What makes you think he's a shoot first PG?

Re: jumpshot, what I'm seeing is he brings the ball far behind his head, kicks one of his legs out, and actually twists his body...just looks really weird. Then again, mine is probably worse, that's why I watch it & don't play it.

He does have a shoot-first mentality. Now I'll be the first to admit that I'm taking samplings and making a conclusion based on such...but looking at his highlights, the way he holds onto the ball without looking to make the extra pass...disregards the open man to get his points...that leads you to believe he has a shoot-first mentality. Going further, his attitude is definitely that of a scorer. Now I'm an AZ Alum/Wildcat fan and have been following this guy for quite a while...and I'll say that attitude-wise, he has the characteristics of and Allen Iverson/Stephon Marbury kinda guy. Plus, a lot of the draft experts can back up his "scorer's" mentality. Which leads back to the problem that he's a shoot-first PG who can't shoot...similar to former HS phenom Sebastian Telfair.

Don't get me wrong, he can be an amazing passer...and has that intangible "star" swagger...but with Jennings, it's all about him and always has been. Just reminds me of Marbury too much. Even if he does learn to shoot, I don't think that's the kind of PG that the Kings want to lead their team out of the gutter.

 

[Kings4life23]

I think stephen curry can come to the nba and be a devin harris from the nets type of player with more range as far as the jump shot goes.....

 

[Spike]

Davidson has switched him to the point and he has done fine his killer shot is going to open up his penetration and he will score or dish to the likes of kmart, cisco, and to are athletic bigs spence and thompson i think he is just what the kings need to get back to the kings of old ......

They could set up Curry wherever they want, but he's still a shooter. A great shooter, but he's not a PG. He elevates the team, but ultimately they set up shots to get him open - his job isn't really to set up teammates or control the offense. Unless Martin's injury is more serious, I would pass on Curry. I'm not saying he's a bad player; he's just not the right fit for the team at this time.

I'm intrigued by Rubio, in that he'd be a pretty good manager of the game. Considering Martin will be taking a lot of shots, Hawes/JT will be getting the ball down low, etc., I'm not worried about Rubio's jumper right now. Eventually it will have to develop in order to keep the defense honest, but an 18 yr old can work on mechanics and improve - if he wants to.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

stephen curry isn't wack, he is a flippin two. we need a god d*** point guard!!!!!!!!!!!

we have 2's and 3's up the yin yang......


PATTY FREAKING MILLS!!!!!! I SWEAR THIS DUDE IS A FREAKING BEAST!

I strongly dislike Beno.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

stephen curry is wack, he is a flippin two.

...

PATTY FREAKING MILLS!!!!!! I SWEAR THIS DUDE IS A FREAKING BEAST

People keep saying that Stephen Curry isn't a PG, but he's averaging 6.8 assists so far this year, which is 0.1 behind Lawson and tied for 9th in the NCAA. He's doing this with an A/T of 1.9 and scoring 31.9 points to boot. He did average less than three assists his first two years (with an A/T hovering around 1), so it does appear from the stats that he's handling the transition to PG fairly successfully.

Patrick Mills is averaging 3.9 assists with an A/T of 1.3, and 20.0 points. I don't want to dis Patrick Mills, and I know this data isn't pace-adjusted, but on the surface it's difficult for me to see how Patrick Mills is a superior player to Stephen Curry.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

I dont want a monte ellis...clone in our pg spot. we always get shooting guards that we try and make points. I have watched Curry, he is a 2. his asts are up cool, but he isnt going to do that in the nba man. better talented pg. Mills has played very well against Chris Paul and Deron Williams. I want to see Curry do that at the 1.

 

[Spike]

stephen curry isn't wack, he is a flippin two. we need a god d*** point guard!!!!!!!!!!!

we have 2's and 3's up the yin yang......


PATTY FREAKING MILLS!!!!!! I SWEAR THIS DUDE IS A FREAKING BEAST!

I strongly dislike Beno.

No offense Larry, but you say every dude is a freaking beast.
I agree with the rest of your statement.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

No offense Larry, but you say every dude is a freaking beast.
I agree with the rest of your statement

LOL!! Just Paul Millsap, Patrick Mills, Jason Thompson, Kevin Martin and Larry Bird of course......and my Home Town Hero Adam Morrison!

Ok...well not so much Morrison in the nba....but he was at Gonzaga. lol

 

[Spike]

I always wondered about why Adam Morrison - now it makes sense. I can't wait for the season to really get started to see some of these guys against conference competition - I dunno about you, but it's hard to get anything from watching Power School play DII Directional Institute of Technology.

 

[bajaden]

Hey Larry, have you watched Austin Daye at Gonzaga at all this year? I think this kid is a gamer with a future in the NBA.

 

[Kingster]

stephen curry isn't wack, he is a flippin two. we need a god d*** point guard!!!!!!!!!!!

we have 2's and 3's up the yin yang......


PATTY FREAKING MILLS!!!!!! I SWEAR THIS DUDE IS A FREAKING BEAST!

I strongly dislike Beno.

I haven't even seen Mills play, but maybe with our second #1 we pick him up and your dream comes true.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Hey Larry, have you watched Austin Daye at Gonzaga at all this year? I think this kid is a gamer with a future in the NBA.

hes a project.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I dont want a monte ellis...clone in our pg spot. we always get shooting guards that we try and make points.

By "always", I think you mean "once". Aside from Quincy Douby, who?

I have watched Curry, he is a 2. his asts are up cool, but he isnt going to do that in the nba man. better talented pg. Mills has played very well against Chris Paul and Deron Williams. I want to see Curry do that at the 1.

I'm just looking at the numbers. 6.8 is a lot better than 3.9, and I don't have the acumen to say that "6.8" can't do it in the NBA but "3.9" can based on one matchup in the Olympics. I haven't had a chance to see Curry since last year's NCAA tournament, but when a guy gets a 4 assist per game bump when he converts to PG (on a team where he is the primary scoring option no less) it looks to me like he isn't having trouble playing PG.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

I haven't even seen Mills play, but maybe with our second #1 we pick him up and your dream comes true.

he is going to go way lower then that, our 2nd first will be 20-30.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Re: jumpshot, what I'm seeing is he brings the ball far behind his head, kicks one of his legs out, and actually twists his body...just looks really weird. Then again, mine is probably worse, that's why I watch it & don't play it.

He does have a shoot-first mentality. Now I'll be the first to admit that I'm taking samplings and making a conclusion based on such...but looking at his highlights, the way he holds onto the ball without looking to make the extra pass...disregards the open man to get his points...that leads you to believe he has a shoot-first mentality. Going further, his attitude is definitely that of a scorer. Now I'm an AZ Alum/Wildcat fan and have been following this guy for quite a while...and I'll say that attitude-wise, he has the characteristics of and Allen Iverson/Stephon Marbury kinda guy. Plus, a lot of the draft experts can back up his "scorer's" mentality. Which leads back to the problem that he's a shoot-first PG who can't shoot...similar to former HS phenom Sebastian Telfair.

Don't get me wrong, he can be an amazing passer...and has that intangible "star" swagger...but with Jennings, it's all about him and always has been. Just reminds me of Marbury too much. Even if he does learn to shoot, I don't think that's the kind of PG that the Kings want to lead their team out of the gutter.

Going behind his head isn't really a death sentence, from what I can tell he keeps his elbow in and gets his shot off quick enough. He needs to cut out the pointless fadeaway and follow through all the way, these are correctable without messing with his mechanics too much. he's obviously going to have to work at it though. I'm not saying he's a good shooter, he definitely needs to work on it, but the potential is there if he does; he won't ever be a great shooter though.

At times he can be overzealous with the ball and disrupt ball movement, that's true; however most of the time he's keeping the ball moving and a willing passer. His shot selection definitely needs to improve, but once he attacks the basket I don't really see him ignoring better scoring opportunities for his own. I say this admittedly only seeing him play a few games though.

I worry too that he'll become a Jason Williams unpredictable wild-style PG or a Marbury do whatever I feel like kind of PG. I can't honestly say I know a whole lot about him personally, just a basic background story and some interviews here and there, he says the right things. If there's one thing he'll learn from playing in Europe is that he's going to get benched if he holds onto the ball too long or shoots too early in the shot clock, because from what I can see they're about keeping the ball moving and going inside-out.

The talent and upside is there, and if anything is going to expose whether he's a Marbury type, I think it will be his stint overseas. We'll get much more informing reports in that regard by the end of the year. He has great talent and even though I'd pick Holiday or Rubio over him, he should definitely be in the consideration. He's still really young and a lot of his problems can be overcome with practice and maturity. Not saying he will for sure, but we shouldn't damn him to Marbury-like just yet. Also, I didn't really see enough of Telfair to know if the comparison fits.

 

[Kings4life23]

Everyone keeps saying stephen curry is not a point guard in the nba well take a look at these stats 4 yea

Chris Paul - 6.6 ast avg, 2.4 stl avg, and 15.2 pts avg

Deron Williams - 6.8 ast avg, 1.0 stl avg, and 12.5 pts avg

Devin Harris - 4.4 ast, 1.8 stl avg, and 19.5 pts avg

Stephen Curry - 6.8 ast, 2.9 stl avg, and 31.9 pts avg

These are all stats of there final season at there respected colleges and you can see with stephen starting at the point he is averaging tops in every catagorey hes even leading chris paul in steals O wait isnt O yea hes got some kinda steal record in the nba at like 106 games with a steal hes going to be a superstar type player at the point in the nba and if the kings get a chance they need to bag him and I see a couple rings in our future ....

 

[SacKings7]

Everyone keeps saying stephen curry is not a point guard in the nba well take a look at these stats 4 yea

Chris Paul - 6.6 ast avg, 2.4 stl avg, and 15.2 pts avg

Deron Williams - 6.8 ast avg, 1.0 stl avg, and 12.5 pts avg

Devin Harris - 4.4 ast, 1.8 stl avg, and 19.5 pts avg

Stephen Curry - 6.8 ast, 2.9 stl avg, and 31.9 pts avg

These are all stats of there final season at there respected colleges and you can see with stephen starting at the point he is averaging tops in every catagorey hes even leading chris paul in steals O wait isnt O yea hes got some kinda steal record in the nba at like 106 games with a steal hes going to be a superstar type player at the point in the nba and if the kings get a chance they need to bag him and I see a couple rings in our future ....

It's a good thing the transition from college to the NBA is easy for everybody . I hear JJ Redick is about to break all the NBA scoring records anyday now.

I'm not bashing you or Stephen Curry, I just don't see him becoming a star. Yes I could be wrong and you could be right, that's just my opinion

 

[beb0p]

Everyone keeps saying stephen curry is not a point guard in the nba well take a look at these stats 4 yea

Chris Paul - 6.6 ast avg, 2.4 stl avg, and 15.2 pts avg

Deron Williams - 6.8 ast avg, 1.0 stl avg, and 12.5 pts avg

Devin Harris - 4.4 ast, 1.8 stl avg, and 19.5 pts avg

Stephen Curry - 6.8 ast, 2.9 stl avg, and 31.9 pts avg

"I never understood how a guy who puts up 20 and eight can be called 'selfish,' " a West Coast NBA GM says. "Until I saw Stephon play day in and day out. Then I knew."

IF assist total alone means something, then Stephon Marbury is a true PG and is less selfish than Andre Miller.

It doesn't matter how many assists Curry gets, he's not a true PG. All one has to do is watch him play. Good combo guard, yes. PG? no.

 

[jon e]

gonzaga is going nowhere. patty mills will bring the wcc title to moraga

 

[Kings4life23]

He looks like a 2 only because he has to drop 30 for his team to win hes the best player on his team if he was on a team with more talent he wouldnt have to do that and his assist would probably be higher and points lower and everyone would be praising him as the next great point guard u have to look at his situation ......

 

[beb0p]

He looks like a 2 only because he has to drop 30 for his team to win hes the best player on his team if he was on a team with more talent he wouldnt have to do that and his assist would probably be higher and points lower and everyone would be praising him as the next great point guard u have to look at his situation ......

I don't think Curry looks like a 2. He's surely not a 1. He's a 1 1/2, not a true PG, not a true SG. We call them combo guards now.

In my case, I don't judge PG on how many assists or points they score. I judge them on how they run a team. Curry is not a true PG because he doesn't recognize mis-matches, horrible at shot-clock management, and he doesn't make teammates better. He is what he is - a gunner. A very good one at that. Perhaps the next great combo guard after Bobby Jackson. But I think any attempt to convert him to something he's not is going to end up bad for both the team and the player.

I think he's perfect for D'Antoni or Nellie's system. I don't think he's what the Kings want though.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

If we were lucky...


Blake Griffin and Patrick Mills....