And Starting at the 3 for your kings JOHN SALMONS

[sactownfan]

well his numbers are pretty strong as a starter. i thought the rotation of the ball(passing) with Salmons on the floor, was way better than with tunnel vision, black hole ron. Also he's a good defender and well......

Heres his time to shine! he will be marking today on his calendar.

 

[KingKong]

Wasn't happy about his excessive pouting last season, but the talent is obviously there. This makes things interesting for Garcia as well with immediately increased mins. Should be interesting.

 

[AleksandarN]

I hope so. It will help increase his market value.

 

[SLAB]

The only good thing about him starting is making himself look good so he can be dealt.

I have nothing positive to say about that man.

 

[Warhawk]

The only good thing about him starting is making himself look good so he can be dealt.

I have nothing positive to say about that man.

The man has talent and has not been a detriment to the team. When starting last year he was arguably the best player on the team.

Why the bitterness???? I'm glad to have him starting instead of Artest.

 

[DesertFox]

A Martin/Salmons/Garcia rotation looks good.
Hopefully Greene can squeeze one of them out next year (or even better, at the trade deadline)

 

[rings4Kings]

The man has talent and has not been a detriment to the team. When starting last year he was arguably the best player on the team.

Why the bitterness???? I'm glad to have him starting instead of Artest.

I agree, I too would rather have him starting instead of Artest, but he did pout way too much to be a solid asset off the bench last year.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Barring further moves among the SF/SG population, I expect a big year from John. By no means is he the "SF of the future" but I don't see Cisco as more than an energy 6th man off the bench, and we have no idea what Greene can do yet. If Douby and Greene show enough by the end of the season, and John puts up solid numbers, by all means deal him (especially if we ditch Miller for expirings and want to make a free agency move in 2009). But if the plan remains 2010, I'm ok with hanging on to John for the time being.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Slab's got it straight; eventually we're going to have to commit to either Salmons or Garcia as our future SF, although it's a good dilemma to have considering how semi-talented the both of them are. Salmons actually has value in the league, and Garcia is a homegrown talent who can grow with the younger kids as he's four years younger than Salmons. While Salmons will start with us this year and help us win some games, in the long run his trade value should reap something good in return.

 

[DesertFox]

Slab's got it straight; eventually we're going to have to commit to either Salmons or Garcia as our future SF, although it's a good dilemma to have considering how semi-talented the both of them are. Salmons actually has value in the league, and Garcia is a homegrown talent who can grow with the younger kids as he's four years younger than Salmons. While Salmons will start with us this year and help us win some games, in the long run his trade value should reap something good in return.

Salmons only has a couple years on Garcia.

If Garcia wants a contract anything more than what Salmons is getting, I would rather trade him.

 

[steelevt]

The man has talent and has not been a detriment to the team. When starting last year he was arguably the best player on the team.

Why the bitterness???? I'm glad to have him starting instead of Artest.

i dont think anyone questioned his talent. it's more being annoyed of him pouting when he doesnt start and for a stretch right after finding out he had to come off the bench, he played like garbage. everyone loves a talented player, but if the talent comes with baggage, like questionable attitude, they dont accept it with open arms.

 

[Warhawk]

i dont think anyone questioned his talent. it's more being annoyed of him pouting when he doesnt start and for a stretch right after finding out he had to come off the bench, he played like garbage. everyone loves a talented player, but if the talent comes with baggage, like questionable attitude, they dont accept it with open arms.

I don't recall him pouting more than any other player who was a starter and got benched. His attitude, for the vast, vast majority of the time, has been nothing but exemplary.

 

[Gary]

Slab's got it straight; eventually we're going to have to commit to either Salmons or Garcia as our future SF, although it's a good dilemma to have considering how semi-talented the both of them are. Salmons actually has value in the league, and Garcia is a homegrown talent who can grow with the younger kids as he's four years younger than Salmons. While Salmons will start with us this year and help us win some games, in the long run his trade value should reap something good in return.

Neither.. Greene could be a future starting SF for the Kings. The Kings could have 3 front court players all above 6'10 which would create a TON of problems for the opposition.

But as it stands now I want Salmons to start then trade him at the deadline for a 1st rounder, and a youngster. When Salmons gets minutes he will be worth a lot to any team looking to add a starting SF/SG for a title run.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Neither.. Greene could be a future starting SF for the Kings. The Kings could have 3 front court players all above 6'10 which would create a TON of problems for the opposition.

But as it stands now I want Salmons to start then trade him at the deadline for a 1st rounder, and a youngster. When Salmons gets minutes he will be worth a lot to any team looking to add a starting SF/SG for a title run.

And 3 decently athletic frontcourt players at that, too! Greene is a freak, and we sort of know what Thompson can do too! Hawes is the exception, I guess...but hey, he has a wicked post game! We're going to have a front line(once maturity hopefully kicks in. lol) that will match up with a team like Golden State that has Jackson, Beidrins, and Harrington. Nice!

 

[LPKingsFan]

But as it stands now I want Salmons to start then trade him at the deadline for a 1st rounder, and a youngster. When Salmons gets minutes he will be worth a lot to any team looking to add a starting SF/SG for a title run.

I'll agree that if Salmons puts up some good numbers it would be best to trade him while his value's high. I'd prefer to see if Greene's ready, and there's also the question of Cisco's extension waiting in the wings. But if Greene comes on strong, and Cisco is re-upped to a reasonable deal, then sure.

 

[Gary]

I'll agree that if Salmons puts up some good numbers it would be best to trade him while his value's high. I'd prefer to see if Greene's ready, and there's also the question of Cisco's extension waiting in the wings. But if Greene comes on strong, and Cisco is re-upped to a reasonable deal, then sure.

Greene is WAY in the future.. I should have said that.. If We start Salmons, and he gets traded I want Cisco to start. If we have no interest in trading Salmons then I would rather just go ahead and start Cisco instead because I like him better in the Kings lineup. Salmons gets his points because he takes a lot of shots.. I don't put the ball hog tag on Salmons because he does not just sit there and hold the ball. He will actually grab it and shoot which I am cool with, as long as it's an open shot.

But anyway, the Kings should use Greene as a backup SF/PF this year giving him the same type of play Hawes got last year. Or maybe in specialty situations when they want to go big with Garcia/Martin/Greene/Thompson/Hawes.

 

[steelevt]

I don't recall him pouting more than any other player who was a starter and got benched. His attitude, for the vast, vast majority of the time, has been nothing but exemplary.

i understand that a player would get upset if benched...but salmons should have known his role. this isnt an allstar being benched. salmons was starting because our real starter,artest, was out and everyone knew he was going to get his starting spot back when he came back. salmons was filling in for artest just for the time being. i dont ever recall hearing garcia complaining when starting for an injured player and going back to the bench when the injured player comes back. garcia knows his role as our 6th man. when he comes off the bench he plays his heart out and does well. salmons "pouted" when he had to go back to the bench and played horribly for a stretch coming off the bench. he was avg 20 ppg when starting but didnt do too well off the bench. why was there such a huge discrepancy? now when salmons starts, he does fine. he puts up his numbers. hopefully now, he'll play up to the potential we all hope he has. im not saying hes a horrible person, you are probably right when you say for the vast majority of the time hes been a team player. but many other posters have noticed this "pouting" and might think it raises a red flag.

heres a link to the time i remember when salmons got mad after being benched and didnt play well off the bench
http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/493400.html

 

[allrightythen]

I think Greene could end up getting some minutes behind Salmons this year (although not a ton) and Garcia behind Martin most of the time. I'm sure Francisco will be the first guy in for either, but Greene could squeeze in a few minutes a game this year...which I would love.

 

[SLAB]

The man has talent and has not been a detriment to the team. When starting last year he was arguably the best player on the team.

Why the bitterness???? I'm glad to have him starting instead of Artest.

His sudden inability to not be able to play off the bench. Although it probably isn't the case it just comes across to me as being selfish, stubborn, and arrogant. Seeing him just disapear once being forced out of the starting 5 just rubbed me in the wrong way. Very wrong way.

 

[Hella916]

Ummmmm Salmons better not start... I think Francisco should start in Artest place... Thats what I think

 

[Warhawk]

His sudden inability to not be able to play off the bench. Although it probably isn't the case it just comes across to me as being selfish, stubborn, and arrogant. Seeing him just disapear once being forced out of the starting 5 just rubbed me in the wrong way. Very wrong way.

And I can understand and appreciate that. I just didn't see anything that made me think it was intentional. So for me, it was something to work through, not an attitude problem or anything like that.

But what do I know????

 

[PurpleHaze]

The funny thing is, Johnny Salmons never had a problem in Philly coming off the bench. That's where he got noticed as a solid role player whose stock was rising when the Kings landed him. It was a later trend when he got benched after Artest came back from missing the first 7 games of the season with Salmons becoming unglued and then pouting whenever the cycle was repeated various times last season. It would seem to be ancient history today and no doubt he's breathing a sign of relief knowing the job is firmly in his hands.

 

[est.1999]

I hope so. It will help increase his market value.

why is this always the key with kings fans? Why can't him being a really good starter be good for the future of the team with him as a part of it. Why is it always about "trade value"?

I'm not really a huge salmons fan. I'm just using this as an example

 

[SLAB]

Ummmmm Salmons better not start... I think Francisco should start in Artest place... Thats what I think

Cisco is to perfect of a 6th man to start. Energy, passion, and the all...Speaking of the trade could you imagine him and Bobby J when he was in his prime? Those two would have been awesome to watch together!

Who knows, maybe they'll make some magic this year too.

 

[bloom]

John Starting = nooooooooo. I hope he isn't in our future plans. Sorry John.

I hope so. It will help increase his market value.

So we can trade him.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

I want to see Greene play an actual NBA game first before I anoint him as a future starter for the Kings. The guy can take his game in so many different ways, but it seems like the general consensus, based on his lone year in college, is that he's a jumpshooter with athletic tools that lacks consistency and some level of motivation. There's the Kevin Durant tier, then there's the Rashard Lewis tier, then there's the Tim Thomas tier, then there's the Darius Rice tier; I happen to have expectations he'll land somewhere between Lewis and Thomas, which makes for a very solid role player, but we need to bring him up slowly as we did with Hawes--off the bench and steadily increase his minutes from 10 to 20 as the season progresses. For that reason, Salmons needs to start to provide stability so Kevin Martin doesn't need to score every single point. Then, Salmons can be traded once we get a better feel for our young talent. As for Garcia, hopefully he can get a lot of minutes as backup sixth man type between the SG/SF positions, but I expect him to start once Salmons is gone.

 

[kingsnation]

Well, he wanted his chance. Here it is. He better not blow it.

 

[Heuge]

John salmons will be a really good fantasy basketbll value next year if we don't add any others.

 

[ParniValjak]

I hope so. It will help increase his market value.

That would be great IMHO!

Let Slamons start and put up the good numbers and then trade him by the deadline for an expiring to clear up even more cap room for the 2010 off season.

 

[KCKingsCountry]

Another draft pick or cap space would be great for Salmons. He could be a nice sixth man spark for a contender.