Amare available?

[ParniValjak]

After initially reading this on hoopworld, there have been some references in various newspapers that the suns might trade Amare to ease the salary cap pressure and get some young guns in return. There have been other various reports that Suns chemistry is not that great and something might need to be done.

Now on a silly chance that Amare does become available, would we have what it takes to get the deal done? Even if he does become available, it would be unlikely that Suns trade him to a division rival but stranger things have happened.

Obviously, any deal for Amare from our perspective would be need to include Kevin Martin and then some more. Would it be worth it? Personally I would do it in a second. A 24 year old, low post beast would be a great player to start building a new team around.

 

[VF21]

I strongly doubt if Amare will be on the market. A 24-year-old low post beast isn't that easy to get ahold of. Once teams do, they tend to keep them.

 

[BMiller52]

I don't see why they'd need a SG. We'd need to give them the draft pick though. I could see a deal happening where(after the draft, in July):

Ron to Denver
Camby+Shareef to Washington
Antawn Jamison+Washington's pick+the player we pick+Garcia to Phoenix
Amare+Marcus Banks to us

We take Banks' awful deal off of Phoenix's hands, Phoenix gets a good offensive player in Jamison who also has a 19 million dollar expiring contract, they get a decent young player in Garcia, and two draft picks(one of which is a lotto pick in a loaded draft). Basically they save 19 million dollars, get a 20/9 guy in Jamison, get a versatile young guy(Garcia), shed an awful deal+another long deal, and they get 2 draft picks in a loaded draft.

I read a rumor that Denver wants Ron and Nuggets fans on RGM would do that deal.

Washington gets a legit post player and a great defender in Camby. Arenas/Stevenson/Butler/Reef/Camby is a pretty good line up.

We get Amare to pair with Kevin and that team has a bright future. We can deal Bibby too if we want for another good young player(preferably a PG). If we don't deal him our line up is Bibby/Martin/Salmons/Stoudemire/Miller which is pretty damn good.

I dunno, other teams could probably offer more. I tried to make a decent trade that would leave us with 1 or 2 pieces. Not sure why PHX would want Kevin either though, he doesn't exactly compliment Nash's skills(they'd both be skinny guards that don't really defend well) and they already have Barbosa off the bench as their 6th man. It's hard to put a deal like this together.

 

[BMiller52]

Found what you read, it's interesting but I still doubt Stoudemire gets traded: http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_21900.shtml


Although I DID read on another board Amare walked out after the game without giving the media an opportunity to interview him. So I dunno, but either way other teams could probably put together a better package. Petrie would have to be really aggressive about this.

 

[ParniValjak]

I strongly doubt if Amare will be on the market. A 24-year-old low post beast isn't that easy to get ahold of. Once teams do, they tend to keep them.

Agreed but there also have been instances where they get traded due to chemistry or other issues. Webber is an example.

But even in an off chance that Amare is available, the suns are unlikely to deal him to division rivals and even if they didn't mind that, other teams might have a bit more to offer than us.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Ugh...Amare and Nash are the franchise in Phx, not to mention that Amare is the only legit big man Phx has, not to mention that he is very young, athletic(even after his surgery), and one of the best players in the game today...and even if they do draft a guy like Horford, they still keep Amare...at least this offseason, anyways.

 

[NoBonus]

I strongly doubt if Amare will be on the market. A 24-year-old low post beast isn't that easy to get ahold of. Once teams do, they tend to keep them.

Yeah, there is no way the Suns trade Amare. I would suspect any other player would be traded before him. Without Amare, the Suns cannot win big in the playoffs; with Amare, they can.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

surprised anybody even brought this up. he is the face of their franchise. young power forward with a bright future.. those rarely get moved around.

 

[Dime Dropper]

I don't think the Suns see Amare as untouchable as they really want to win now. If they could get KG back for him I could see it happening. But in reality, I think they could possibly land KG with Marion and the number four plus filler. Marion will be shopped alot more than Stoudemire and Amare will not be moved unless it's for another franchis player that will help them win now.

 

[nbrans]

The only way the Suns would give up Amare is if they could improve their interior defense.

So in other words, Amare might be available, but we have zero shot at him.

 

[Smills91]

The only way the Suns would give up Amare is if they could improve their interior defense.

So in other words, Amare might be available, but we have zero shot at him.

IF that's true that Amare is being shopped, then Phoenix EASILY has the inside track on landing KG.

 

[Superman]

IF that's true that Amare is being shopped, then Phoenix EASILY has the inside track on landing KG.

If I were Phoenix, I wouldn't do that trade either.

There are only two players in the NBA that I would trade Amare for: LeBron James and Kobe Bryant.

 

[Vlade4GM]

They'll trade Marion if they're going to trade anyone. Horford would be a great guy to pair with Amare, would take a lot of pressure off of him defensively and on the boards.

 

[91sickness]

Amare is definitely not going anywhere, he was their leading scorer in the playoffs and is a dominant young big, which are hard to come by. If they trade anyone it will definitely be Marion because he is the most expendable on that team. I would definitely give up anything outside martin from our roster to get him.

 

[VF21]

Agreed but there also have been instances where they get traded due to chemistry or other issues. Webber is an example.

Webber wasn't traded because of chemistry. Webber was traded because his contract - which the 76ers ended up eating - was horrific, he was still coming back from the microfracture surgery, AND the Maloofs panicked.

Aside from the fact that Amare - at a much younger age - had the same surgical procedure Webb had, there is NO valid comparison between the two situations.

People can dream and drool all they like but the Phoenix Suns aren't getting rid of Amare Stoudemire.

 

[Dime Dropper]

Webber wasn't traded because of chemistry. Webber was traded because his contract - which the 76ers ended up eating - was horrific, he was still coming back from the microfracture surgery, AND the Maloofs panicked.

Aside from the fact that Amare - at a much younger age - had the same surgical procedure Webb had, there is NO valid comparison between the two situations.

People can dream and drool all they like but the Phoenix Suns aren't getting rid of Amare Stoudemire.

I think he means the reason he was traded to us in the first place.

 

[VF21]

My conclusion is still the same.

People can dream and drool all they like but the Phoenix Suns aren't getting rid of Amare Stoudemire.

 

[Bricklayer]

I find it almost inconceivable that Amare of all players would be traded, unless he and the owner have something going on. D'Antoni can have a burr in his saddle all he wants, but to trade the All-NBA first team center isgoing to take a heck of a lot more than that. Marion....maybe. Diaw, could definitely see. But Amare??

And as an aside, yes, we simply do not have the assets, unless possibly we gave up both Kevin and the pick, and likely more than just that.

And of course its hoopsworld. Read far enough over there and you will find that Vince Carter is an alien and Luke Ridnour was raised by wolves and likes to scent mark the ball before every game.

As an aside, if the Suns actually want to improve their interior defense, they could consider actually playing a center at center, moving their power forward back to power forward, and their small forward back to small forward. You don't make your own bed and then blame the sheets for their being too short.

 

[Oskor]

And of course its hoopsworld. Read far enough over there and you will find that Vince Carter is an alien and Luke Ridnour was raised by wolves and likes to scent mark the ball before every game.

I always thought that was Sam "I Am" Cassell ... I was way off.

 

[ParniValjak]

Webber wasn't traded because of chemistry. Webber was traded because his contract - which the 76ers ended up eating - was horrific, he was still coming back from the microfracture surgery, AND the Maloofs panicked.

Aside from the fact that Amare - at a much younger age - had the same surgical procedure Webb had, there is NO valid comparison between the two situations.

Err.... I was referring to how we got Webber, not how we shipped him off

 

[Entity]

IF that's true that Amare is being shopped, then Phoenix EASILY has the inside track on landing KG.

You are exactly right. That would be great for both teams. Minnesota gets younger to start over again. Pheonix gets the player they need to get to the Championship game.

 

[Venom]

Isn't the bad chemistry between Marion and Amare? At leaset, those are the reports I have heard. Nash and D'antoni seem to be all business, so I could see someone, even Amare, getting shipped out if he is seen as a distraction. There are two big knocks against Amare, he really only contributes on one end of the floor, and he has already had microfracture surgery. The owner is dictating that they shed salary.

 

[kyo2002]

It can be like Iverson demanding to be traded, Shaq wanting to go to Florida, etc. Doubt Amare would be traded for salary issues.