All Time Kings Draft...on a Tropical Island?
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I was really stuck from between 4 different players for this pick. In the end, I'm going to go with my heart, even though it may be controversial and questioned.
My next pick is one of my favorite Kings of all time:
Mikki Moore (2007-2008)
82 games, 57% shooting, 8.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.0 apg.
Mikki didn't win over too many fans here, but he is one of my all time favorites. He brought intensity, fire, and aggression. He will primarily be used as a screen setter in this offense but will get some points of his own as well.
Adelman will be able to utilize him correctly.
Member number 2 of my bench mob..
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My next pick is one of my favorite Kings of all time:
Mikki Moore (2007-2008)
82 games, 57% shooting, 8.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.0 apg.
Mikki didn't win over too many fans here, but he is one of my all time favorites. He brought intensity, fire, and aggression. He will primarily be used as a screen setter in this offense but will get some points of his own as well.
Adelman will be able to utilize him correctly.
Member number 2 of my bench mob..
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*whew* He got to me.
My Pick, which I'm sure is sitting on a few of your boards slated to go next:
Vernon "Mad Max" Maxwell
Say what you want about the guy, but he was an awesome defender and one of my favorite players during that '98-'99 season. Feisty guy too. He always defended Michael Jordan well.
He mad.
My Pick, which I'm sure is sitting on a few of your boards slated to go next:
Vernon "Mad Max" Maxwell
Say what you want about the guy, but he was an awesome defender and one of my favorite players during that '98-'99 season. Feisty guy too. He always defended Michael Jordan well.
He mad.
Maurice Evans
('04-'05) -- 65gms 19.0min 6.4pts (.442 .329 .756) 3.1reb 0.7ast 0.6stl 0.1blk 0.5TO
Provides size, athleticism, defense and a little rebounding too at the shooting guard spot. Played well off the bench for a still decent Kings team. Completes my starting 5.
Lawrence Funderburke
('98-'99) -- 47gms 19.9min 8.9pts (.559 .200 .708) 4.7reb 0.6ast 0.5stl 0.5blk 1.1TO
Fundy is going to give some effort and post scoring off the bench and will help a little on the boards too. '98-'99 wasn't his best statistical year but even if he scored a little less than the previous season he had much better percentages, he also rebounded at a higher rate. Proved that he could be a valuable reserve in the glory years.
('98-'99) -- 47gms 19.9min 8.9pts (.559 .200 .708) 4.7reb 0.6ast 0.5stl 0.5blk 1.1TO
Fundy is going to give some effort and post scoring off the bench and will help a little on the boards too. '98-'99 wasn't his best statistical year but even if he scored a little less than the previous season he had much better percentages, he also rebounded at a higher rate. Proved that he could be a valuable reserve in the glory years.
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Our next pick has been a guy I've wanted since round 3 for many different reasons.. Thought I could wait to get him. I was right.
Our starting shooting guard:
Sarunas Marciulionis (1995-1996)
53 games, 10.8 ppg, 45% fg, 77% line, 40% 3's, 1.5 rpg, 2.2 apg
He will fit in perfect in this offense. Sarunas will thrive running around picks set by Miller and Moore. Getting to the hoop and getting to the line. He will also be a very strong leader on the court.
Our starting shooting guard:
Sarunas Marciulionis (1995-1996)
53 games, 10.8 ppg, 45% fg, 77% line, 40% 3's, 1.5 rpg, 2.2 apg
He will fit in perfect in this offense. Sarunas will thrive running around picks set by Miller and Moore. Getting to the hoop and getting to the line. He will also be a very strong leader on the court.
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Our next pick has been a guy I've wanted since round 3 for many different reasons.. Thought I could wait to get him. I was right.
Our starting shooting guard:
Sarunas Marciulionis (1995-1996)
Stats and write up coming later..
Our starting shooting guard:
Sarunas Marciulionis (1995-1996)
Stats and write up coming later..
I suggest everyone list their starting lineups using per-36 statistics, otherwise some numbers will be grossly understated.
Starting Line-Up:
PG: Tony Delk per-36: 15.6 PPG 2.9 APG 4.6 RPG .43 FG% .225 3PT% 1.8 SPG
[NO PICTURE]
SG: Kevin Martin per-36: 23.4 PPG 2.1 APG 4.4 RPG .456 FG% .402 3PT% 1 SPG
SF: Jim Jackson per-36: 13.4 PPG 3.2 APG 7.2 RPG .442 FG% .451 3PT% .9 SPG
PF: Brian Grant per-36: 16.6 PPG 1.6 APG 9.4 RPG .551 FG% 1.8 BPG .8 SPG
C: Yogi Stewart per-36: 7.7 PPG 1.2 APG 11 RPG .48 FG% 4 BPG .6 SPG
Total per-36: 76.7 PPG 11 APG 36.6 RPG .472 FG% .356 3PT%---> (Perimeter Players) 6.9 BPG--> (Post Players) 5.1 SPG
Starting Line-Up:
PG: Tony Delk per-36: 15.6 PPG 2.9 APG 4.6 RPG .43 FG% .225 3PT% 1.8 SPG
[NO PICTURE]
SG: Kevin Martin per-36: 23.4 PPG 2.1 APG 4.4 RPG .456 FG% .402 3PT% 1 SPG
SF: Jim Jackson per-36: 13.4 PPG 3.2 APG 7.2 RPG .442 FG% .451 3PT% .9 SPG
PF: Brian Grant per-36: 16.6 PPG 1.6 APG 9.4 RPG .551 FG% 1.8 BPG .8 SPG
C: Yogi Stewart per-36: 7.7 PPG 1.2 APG 11 RPG .48 FG% 4 BPG .6 SPG
Total per-36: 76.7 PPG 11 APG 36.6 RPG .472 FG% .356 3PT%---> (Perimeter Players) 6.9 BPG--> (Post Players) 5.1 SPG
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Sorry that's not the way it works. 
No rules against drafting lesser minute guys and putting them into your starting lineup, but this is a Kings draft as they were for the Kings, and its up to the voters to decide if they buy the numbers being bounced up. Sergio Rodriguez might average 20-10 per 36, but you can't just say that's what's going to happen. I mean do whatever you want to to promote your team's awesomeness, but all that is going to get listed officially is the stats as they were -- that's the only thing we truly know.
No rules against drafting lesser minute guys and putting them into your starting lineup, but this is a Kings draft as they were for the Kings, and its up to the voters to decide if they buy the numbers being bounced up. Sergio Rodriguez might average 20-10 per 36, but you can't just say that's what's going to happen. I mean do whatever you want to to promote your team's awesomeness, but all that is going to get listed officially is the stats as they were -- that's the only thing we truly know.per-36 is the only true barometer we have for measuring what stats might look like if the player was given starters minutes.
Does Tony Delk average 15 ppg when he starts? As evidenced by his Boston time, no. SO, it definitely isn't foolproof. Either way, this team I put together is pretty awful, except on defense.
Does Tony Delk average 15 ppg when he starts? As evidenced by his Boston time, no. SO, it definitely isn't foolproof. Either way, this team I put together is pretty awful, except on defense.
So here's my starting five:
PG Reggie Theus ('85-86) -- 82gms 35.6min 18.3pts (.480 .171 .827) 3.7reb 9.6ast 1.4stl 0.2blk 4.0TO [6'7]
SG Maurice Evans ('04-'05) -- 65gms 19.0min 6.4pts (.442 .329 .756) 3.1reb 0.7ast 0.6stl 0.1blk 0.5TO [6'5]
SF Hedo Turkoglu ('01-02) -- 80gms 24.6min 10.1pts (.422 .368 .726) 4.5reb 2.0ast 0.7stl 0.4blk 1.0TO [6'10]
PF Wayman Tisdale ('89-90) -- 79gms 37.1min 22.3pts (.525 .000 .783) 7.5reb 1.4ast 0.7stl 0.7blk 1.9TO [6'9]
C Jawann Oldham ('87-88) -- 54gms 17.5min 5.5pts (.476 .000 .678) 5.6reb 0.6ast 0.2stl 2.0blk 1.2TO [7'0]
Quite a good team if you want to compete
for the first overall pick in the draft.
PG Reggie Theus ('85-86) -- 82gms 35.6min 18.3pts (.480 .171 .827) 3.7reb 9.6ast 1.4stl 0.2blk 4.0TO [6'7]
SG Maurice Evans ('04-'05) -- 65gms 19.0min 6.4pts (.442 .329 .756) 3.1reb 0.7ast 0.6stl 0.1blk 0.5TO [6'5]
SF Hedo Turkoglu ('01-02) -- 80gms 24.6min 10.1pts (.422 .368 .726) 4.5reb 2.0ast 0.7stl 0.4blk 1.0TO [6'10]
PF Wayman Tisdale ('89-90) -- 79gms 37.1min 22.3pts (.525 .000 .783) 7.5reb 1.4ast 0.7stl 0.7blk 1.9TO [6'9]
C Jawann Oldham ('87-88) -- 54gms 17.5min 5.5pts (.476 .000 .678) 5.6reb 0.6ast 0.2stl 2.0blk 1.2TO [7'0]
Quite a good team if you want to compete
for the first overall pick in the draft.
Yup...After almost no less than 5 of my potential picks for here were being taken since I last picked...And looking over the list of players, I am going to be 'that guy'
Instead of reaching for someone, I am going to take a shot in the dark with another.
Drew Gooden.
I know some may think that this pick is 'cheap' as he was only here one game. The one game doesn't matter, what does matter is the guy is a consistent player from year to year. Had he played 40 games here and averaged close to 10pts, 7rebs he would already be gone. As consistent as his numbers have been throughout his career had he not been bought out he would have been just as solid for us.
And with the list of bigs about as deep as a shot glass at this point...Why the heck not,
...And Jerry Reynolds thinks he is great.
Kings Career
1gm, 26min, 12ppg, (.556, .000, 1.000), 13reb, 2asst, 0stl, 0blk,
Whole Career
510gm, 12.0pts, (.470, .219, .732) 7.9reb, 1.1ast
Instead of reaching for someone, I am going to take a shot in the dark with another.
Drew Gooden.
I know some may think that this pick is 'cheap' as he was only here one game. The one game doesn't matter, what does matter is the guy is a consistent player from year to year. Had he played 40 games here and averaged close to 10pts, 7rebs he would already be gone. As consistent as his numbers have been throughout his career had he not been bought out he would have been just as solid for us.
And with the list of bigs about as deep as a shot glass at this point...Why the heck not,
...And Jerry Reynolds thinks he is great.
Kings Career
1gm, 26min, 12ppg, (.556, .000, 1.000), 13reb, 2asst, 0stl, 0blk,
Whole Career
510gm, 12.0pts, (.470, .219, .732) 7.9reb, 1.1ast
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Well, worked out well for me in any case. Last round before punting and taking Randy Brown I was pondering between the solid boring production of Jim Petersen, and the messy talent of this man:
F/C Pervis Ellison
'89-90 34gms 25.5min
8.0pts (.442 .000 .628) 5.8reb 1.9ast 0.5stl 1.7blk 1.8TO
The last of the semi-legit shotblockers in this draft. And I already have three other decent shotblockers, so a 4th is kind of overkill, but Pervis was the real deal -- not a guy who blocked shots, but a shotblocker. In any case, the truth behind Pervis as #1 pick has gotten lost over the years -- the legend is easier. But the fact of the matter was that, injuries aside, he might actually have been the right pick. Within two years of leaving Sacto he averaged 20pts 11rebs and 2.7blks in a season. You know how many Kings have ever averaged 20-10 in 25 years of Sacto kingdom? Two -- Thorpe and Webber. We should consider ourselves lucky his knees went out or it would be the TRADING away of Pervis Ellison that might have gone down as one of the great disasters in Kings history, not drafting him. Anyway, he wasn't 20-10 for us, he was raw and constantly injured, both for us and then after leaving. But he was a talented player, a major shotblocker before his legs gave out, and will add mobility and yet more lane protection for me off the bench on those nights when he is actually available.
F/C Pervis Ellison
'89-90 34gms 25.5min
8.0pts (.442 .000 .628) 5.8reb 1.9ast 0.5stl 1.7blk 1.8TO
The last of the semi-legit shotblockers in this draft. And I already have three other decent shotblockers, so a 4th is kind of overkill, but Pervis was the real deal -- not a guy who blocked shots, but a shotblocker. In any case, the truth behind Pervis as #1 pick has gotten lost over the years -- the legend is easier. But the fact of the matter was that, injuries aside, he might actually have been the right pick. Within two years of leaving Sacto he averaged 20pts 11rebs and 2.7blks in a season. You know how many Kings have ever averaged 20-10 in 25 years of Sacto kingdom? Two -- Thorpe and Webber. We should consider ourselves lucky his knees went out or it would be the TRADING away of Pervis Ellison that might have gone down as one of the great disasters in Kings history, not drafting him. Anyway, he wasn't 20-10 for us, he was raw and constantly injured, both for us and then after leaving. But he was a talented player, a major shotblocker before his legs gave out, and will add mobility and yet more lane protection for me off the bench on those nights when he is actually available.
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With their 7th pick and the 80th overall pick in the 2010 All Time Sacramento Kings Draft the “Droids for Clunkers” select
Anthony Johnson, PG / SG, 6' 3'', 195
Season: 1997-98. 77gms 29.4min 7.5pts (.370 .328 .734) 2.2reb 4.3ast 0.8stl 0.1blk 1.6TO
My team needs two last pieces and I am getting one right here. I need a back up PG who can fit into this tempo team and can contribute on the D side. I am getting two in one with this pick.
Although our franchise is more known for big first round flops, Anthony was picked late in the second but made himself a very solid NBA career spanning 13 seasons. So now my team has a guy who can general the floor well (this is actually is second best year - ast/g wise), will provide stops on the D side and will be very happy with the chance to do all that for about 20 min a night.
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(basketball)
Anthony Johnson, PG / SG, 6' 3'', 195
Season: 1997-98. 77gms 29.4min 7.5pts (.370 .328 .734) 2.2reb 4.3ast 0.8stl 0.1blk 1.6TO
My team needs two last pieces and I am getting one right here. I need a back up PG who can fit into this tempo team and can contribute on the D side. I am getting two in one with this pick.
Although our franchise is more known for big first round flops, Anthony was picked late in the second but made himself a very solid NBA career spanning 13 seasons. So now my team has a guy who can general the floor well (this is actually is second best year - ast/g wise), will provide stops on the D side and will be very happy with the chance to do all that for about 20 min a night.
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(basketball)
With a strong 6 man rotation I feel the need to solidify a coach before the pool becomes septic. With my 7th choice, I select:
Eddie Jordan - Head Coach
Regular: 33-64 .340; Playoff: 0-0 .000
With a team of runners and gunners I need a coach that can take the reigns off. Coach Jordan has had a long, successful NBA coaching career, beginning as an assistant coach for the Kings, their head coach, the "lead assistant" under Byron Scott for the back to back NBA finals bound NJ Nets teams (many thought he was the one really coaching the team at that time...), as well as a long string of playoff appearances as the head coach of the Washington Wizards. He utilizes the Princeton offense to make every player a threat to score at any time. With deadly outside shooters, willing passers, and constant activity, my team will buy into coach's message, and get out and RUN!
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More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Jordan_(basketball)
Eddie Jordan - Head Coach
Regular: 33-64 .340; Playoff: 0-0 .000
With a team of runners and gunners I need a coach that can take the reigns off. Coach Jordan has had a long, successful NBA coaching career, beginning as an assistant coach for the Kings, their head coach, the "lead assistant" under Byron Scott for the back to back NBA finals bound NJ Nets teams (many thought he was the one really coaching the team at that time...), as well as a long string of playoff appearances as the head coach of the Washington Wizards. He utilizes the Princeton offense to make every player a threat to score at any time. With deadly outside shooters, willing passers, and constant activity, my team will buy into coach's message, and get out and RUN!
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More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Jordan_(basketball)
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Here's my writeup on Derek Smith:
Derek Smith
Well, he may not have been the most popular guy, but he could certainly play. One of the most talented guys left. I needed some scoring punch off the bench and this guy should provide it. He's not just one dimensional, though - see his 16/4/3.5/1 season below. I have enough leaders and strong characters on my team to keep Smith and Owens in check - not that they need it.
Season: 1986-87. 52gms 31.9min 16.6pts (.446 .273 .781) 3.5reb 3.9ast 0.9stl 0.4blk 2.4TO
Derek Smith
Well, he may not have been the most popular guy, but he could certainly play. One of the most talented guys left. I needed some scoring punch off the bench and this guy should provide it. He's not just one dimensional, though - see his 16/4/3.5/1 season below. I have enough leaders and strong characters on my team to keep Smith and Owens in check - not that they need it.
Season: 1986-87. 52gms 31.9min 16.6pts (.446 .273 .781) 3.5reb 3.9ast 0.9stl 0.4blk 2.4TO
Well, worked out well for me in any case. Last round before punting and taking Randy Brown I was pondering between the solid boring production of Jim Petersen, and the messy talent of this man:
F/C Pervis Ellison
'89-90 34gms 25.5min
8.0pts (.442 .000 .628) 5.8reb 1.9ast 0.5stl 1.7blk 1.8TO
The last of the semi-legit shotblockers in this draft. And I already have three other decent shotblockers, so a 4th is kind of overkill, but Pervis was the real deal -- not a guy who blocked shots, but a shotblocker. In any case, the truth behind Pervis as #1 pick has gotten lost over the years -- the legend is easier. But the fact of the matter was that, injuries aside, he might actually have been the right pick. Within two years of leaving Sacto he averaged 20pts 11rebs and 2.7blks in a season. You know how many Kings have ever averaged 20-10 in 25 years of Sacto kingdom? Two -- Thorpe and Webber. We should consider ourselves lucky his knees went out or it would be the TRADING away of Pervis Ellison that might have gone down as one of the great disasters in Kings history, not drafting him. Anyway, he wasn't 20-10 for us, he was raw and constantly injured, both for us and then after leaving. But he was a talented player, a major shotblocker before his legs gave out, and will add mobility and yet more lane protection for me off the bench on those nights when he is actually available.
F/C Pervis Ellison
'89-90 34gms 25.5min
8.0pts (.442 .000 .628) 5.8reb 1.9ast 0.5stl 1.7blk 1.8TO
The last of the semi-legit shotblockers in this draft. And I already have three other decent shotblockers, so a 4th is kind of overkill, but Pervis was the real deal -- not a guy who blocked shots, but a shotblocker. In any case, the truth behind Pervis as #1 pick has gotten lost over the years -- the legend is easier. But the fact of the matter was that, injuries aside, he might actually have been the right pick. Within two years of leaving Sacto he averaged 20pts 11rebs and 2.7blks in a season. You know how many Kings have ever averaged 20-10 in 25 years of Sacto kingdom? Two -- Thorpe and Webber. We should consider ourselves lucky his knees went out or it would be the TRADING away of Pervis Ellison that might have gone down as one of the great disasters in Kings history, not drafting him. Anyway, he wasn't 20-10 for us, he was raw and constantly injured, both for us and then after leaving. But he was a talented player, a major shotblocker before his legs gave out, and will add mobility and yet more lane protection for me off the bench on those nights when he is actually available.
Almost went with him - needed a shotblocker. Ultimately opted for Smith as I felt he provided more impact for my team.
I was in the inverse position -- if Smith had slid to my spot I was going to be in a real bind whether to pick him for pure production reasons even though he was not really what was needed, or stick with my plan.
P.S. As an aside, was Smith actually a bad apple? Or just unpopular because he was constantly hurt and cost the team two popular players?
I almost talked myself into taking a coach here .. but man, that list is brutal. And I came to the conclusion that I just dont care who my coach is, as long as I dont get stuck with Kenny Natt, i'll be ok.
With that being said, my next selection is everyones favorite big man:
Justin Williams (2006-2007)
26gms 12.8min
5.0pts (.614 .365 .000) 4.4reb 0.1ast 0.6blk 0.6TO
One of my favorite Kings during the stretch he was with the team. I Love the Justin Williams theads that pop up on this site once a year. Love them. I was always a fan of this guy. His defense and athleticism compared to the other bigs on that team (SAR, Miller, K9, Potapenko) made him a fan favorite. I still, to this day, think he can be a Joel Anthony type player in this league. He'll add size, versatility ( can play PF and C ) rebounding, and defense to my bench.
With that being said, my next selection is everyones favorite big man:
Justin Williams (2006-2007)
26gms 12.8min
5.0pts (.614 .365 .000) 4.4reb 0.1ast 0.6blk 0.6TO
One of my favorite Kings during the stretch he was with the team. I Love the Justin Williams theads that pop up on this site once a year. Love them. I was always a fan of this guy. His defense and athleticism compared to the other bigs on that team (SAR, Miller, K9, Potapenko) made him a fan favorite. I still, to this day, think he can be a Joel Anthony type player in this league. He'll add size, versatility ( can play PF and C ) rebounding, and defense to my bench.
I don't know how many people read the write-ups regularly, but I wrote my last one specifically in the hopes of getting a run on coaches started.
Alas, my plan did not come to fruition, only two coaches were taken. I figured the more coaches people took the more players would be available for me when my turn returned, but for some reason nobody seems to want to go after these guys.
Alas, my plan did not come to fruition, only two coaches were taken. I figured the more coaches people took the more players would be available for me when my turn returned, but for some reason nobody seems to want to go after these guys.
I intended all along to go for need with this pick, but I think there's a clear BPA, so I have to take him. The only remaining season with more than 4 accumulated win shares belongs to...Darius Songaila ('04-'05).
PF Darius Songaila ('04-05) -- 81gms 20.6min 7.5pts (.527 .000 .847) 4.2reb 1.4ast 0.6stl 0.2blk 0.9TO
Darius did a solid job for us off the bench, and while his rebounding numbers weren't thrilling, he was quite an efficient scorer (.527 FG%, .847 FT%). In under 1700 minutes he contributed 4.3 win shares, thanks to a very solid 0.124 win shares per 48 (a number he hasn't come close to touching since he left Sacramento). Welcome to my rotation, Darius!
PF Darius Songaila ('04-05) -- 81gms 20.6min 7.5pts (.527 .000 .847) 4.2reb 1.4ast 0.6stl 0.2blk 0.9TO
Darius did a solid job for us off the bench, and while his rebounding numbers weren't thrilling, he was quite an efficient scorer (.527 FG%, .847 FT%). In under 1700 minutes he contributed 4.3 win shares, thanks to a very solid 0.124 win shares per 48 (a number he hasn't come close to touching since he left Sacramento). Welcome to my rotation, Darius!