Barnes with superior rebounding, Harris with better defense and Atlanta Milsap with a better 3 - would all be top 50 NBA players.
2022 California Classic Day 3 7/5/2022 (Kings vs Lakers 2:30PM Pacific, NBATV)
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Barnes with superior rebounding, Harris with better defense and Atlanta Milsap with a better 3 - would all be top 50 NBA players.
kb02
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Processing speed.
Ozymandias
All-Star
Murray the best player on the floor by a mile..
kb02
All-Star
TBD, but I wouldn't say top 50. Top 75? Sure.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Queta is up against it in terms of sticking in the league as any traditional shotblocking big is, but he's putting in the effort to be that guy that finds a place and he's been OK doing it. That's a major win for true BIGS all over the world. haha.
kb02
All-Star
For sure--everyone else is destined for the GLeague or Europe. Lolz.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Now the real test begins. Can't wait to see Murray match up with Banchero.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Finally, an answer to the question: "What if two guys with similar body types developed their games in completely opposite directions?"
Ozymandias
All-Star
Unimpressed by Queta in todays game.. First half was really bad 2nd half was solid. Sign Moses Brown!
Kings49ers
Bench
Moses and Kessler
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
i haven’t really seen that reaction from the talking heads. It’s generally been positive
SLAB
Hall of Famer
People reacted like they took a guy who looks very solid professional when we need a star, but hyperbole gets the retweets!
I've seen a lot of negative reaction but it's mostly the youtube crowd + Ham and his dopey crew.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
C-Dave said that he was MC at a rally for the draft and he yelled out “who wants Jaden Ivey?!” Thinking that everyone would start screaming. It was relatively quiet. Then he said, “who wants Murray?” And the place went nuts. They were shocked and Cunningham said that social media is not a good way to take the temperature of the room in regards to fan consensus. I was pretty surprised myself as I assume Ivey was largely the fav amongst the fans
Anyone else think Murray went to the perfect landing spot? If he were drafted to most bottom 10 teams, they'd immediately push for him to develop his face-up game and ball skills. With the Kings, we don't need him to immediately add that part of his game. I think we'll see him in an expedited Kawhi-Spurs role. All he has to do is play good defense and make his shots.
Fox and Sabonis will cover up for any weaknesses he has, specifically his playmaking.
It feels awfully strange to say this, but I think we were a perfect landing spot for any rookie.
Fox and Sabonis will cover up for any weaknesses he has, specifically his playmaking.
It feels awfully strange to say this, but I think we were a perfect landing spot for any rookie.
km23
Bench
How are you continually so negative? Lol props on the long-standing effort.
Fan consensus is a really interesting discussion. I think it probably has to do with the fan demographics for the Kings who are likely a bit older and don't spend as much time on Twitter or reddit.
I agree, for one, he isn't coming in with the pressure to be anything but a cog in the Fox-Ox machinery, I mean sure some folks think you have to get a star at X position in the draft, but realistically this was a tough draft to guarantee one exists. I am absolutely certain 2-3 of the top 5 picks are going to be bigtime disappointments but I couldn't tell you who for sure. And two, while the Kings may or may not be any good, they aren't a guaranteed tank team with a placeholder coach where players are free to stat hunt, skimp on defense, and chase the monthly and post season kudos. Murray is going to enter a system that hopefully is here for a long time and be expected to play within it and support the established players (of which there are currently 3).
kb02
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SacKings123
G-League
Is it just me or does Keegan Murray give Pascal Siakam vibes? I’m not saying he will be as good as him but imagine if Keegan was able to develop into a player at that caliber level
Sluggah
All-Star
In its infancy and purest form, social media may have served as a decent proxy for general consensus…these days, at best, it’s a proxy for everyone’s drunk uncle. Best to wait for the tryptophan to kick in.
Even if Jaden Ivey becomes the breakout star of this draft - something I'm hardly convinced - and knowing that we sent DDV packing, I still don't see how we wouldn't have been left with a huge hole in one of the 3/4 spots. It's still our weakest position even after adding Murray and an extreme premium in the NBA.
But a lot of the people dogging the pick think we could have traded down to at least 7 and still got Murray ignoring reports that at least two of the teams trading up were targeting him. And we'd have missed out on Mathurin the next most exciting prospect if we had done that unless we traded to 6, and I'm not uber excited about Duarte who was one of the of the most talked about rooks for the first 2 months or so and then fell off the rookie radars.
And then there's the multitude of Tuckers on YouTube who have clearly never watched a Kings game in their lives.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
this will be the gif whenever the Kings get a W for the 2022-2023 season
In order for Ivey to produce at the level sports fandom wants, he needs to have the keys to the car. Ain't happening with Fox and Sabonis taking up the first two seats, and a coaching staff looking for the playoffs.
Detroit is a great landing spot for him, personal narrative aside (which I think is more of a detriment). He's not being counted on to produce wins this year, just stats, and is surrounded by players like Cunningham and Bey, who provide complimentary skills.
Hoovtrain
All-Star
Not sure how anyone could watch these 3 games and have a negative takeaway on him so far.
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