2013 NBA Draft thread.

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
No worries? Seriously? Are you aware that these are the Sacramento Kings? There should definitely be worry! Our best bet, at this point, is a multiple trade circumstance. If we're counting on free agency to fill needs, we're cooked.
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Definitely worry?

I think it's pretty likely we'll see trades to get rid of some redundancy before the season starts. Also, I think you're mistaken if you think not one hole can be filled via free agency. Free agents do not flock to Sac, but they do flock to whoever offers the most money. While we are precluded from ever signing consensus max free agents (since we can't offer the most money), it certainly doesn't mean we can't make any meaningful acquisitions through free agency.
 
Dime Dropper said:
IT, Jimmer, Douglas, McCallum, MT, 'Reke, McLemore... Something has got to give. And it better not be Tyreke.
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Well, judging by the fact that 5 of those 7 guys were brought in under the Magoof/Petrie regime, I'm going to assume that something will, in fact, give.

I have faith in the new FO, and maybe more importantly, patience with them.
 
Livinthedream said:
All 30 teams were wrong then. How in the world did that happen?
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He's slow, that's what happened. But he has enormous size, great instincts, and is a solid finisher around the rim. He probably won't be DPOY any time soon (again, he was a great defender in college but I think he'll struggle against the faster guys in the NBA), but I would bet good money he'll be in the league for longer than half the guys who went in the first round.
 
captain bill said:
He's slow, that's what happened. But he has enormous size, great instincts, and is a solid finisher around the rim. He probably won't be DPOY any time soon (again, he was a great defender in college but I think he'll struggle against the faster guys in the NBA), but I would bet good money he'll be in the league for longer than half the guys who went in the first round.
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Cole Aldrich or Jeff Withey? I guess it doesn't matter. Same guy.

McLemore has more talent and a higher ceiling. Simple as that.
 
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This isn't Jeff Withey vs McLemore. This is Jeff Withey vs. Roy McCallum (who????). What a disaster.

My assessment of McLemore after watching a few readily available games on youtube such as this one or this one is this: he likes to hang out off the ball and wait for open shots to come to him; he seems to be willing to play within a system; that is, he won't break the flow of the offense to look for his shot; he moves the ball; he's plays like a 35 year old Ray Allen.
 
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roasthawg said:
Two ultra athletic backcourt guys... says a lot about what our new fo feels we were missing.
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We weren't missing backcourt guys. Maybe a specific, vet PG type of guy, but the team has been acquiring combo guard guys for years.

I was really hoping for a step in the right direction and not more of the same.
 
cuad said:
This isn't Jeff Withey vs McLemore. This is Jeff Withey vs. Roy McCallum (who????). What a disaster.

My assessment of McLemore after watching a few readily available games on youtube such as this one or this one is this: he likes to hang out off the ball and wait for open shots to come to him; he seems to be willing to play within a system; that is, he won't break the flow of the offense to look for his shot; he moves the ball; he's like SG version of Harrison Barnes.
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You're right, but if the front office doesn't think that Withey can make the team, then what does it matter if we don't draft him? We could just as easy sign Aldrich and get the same results. Then it makes sense to try to find a diamond in the rough in McCallum, regardless of position.
 
After the initial shock, I'm going to reserve judgement on McCallum. It looks like the Kings front office really like him. For all we know, he might turn out even better than IT and take his spot in the roster. I get the feeling that IT is not in the Kings' long term plans.
 
swisshh said:
We weren't missing backcourt guys. Maybe a specific, vet PG type of guy, but the team has been acquiring combo guard guys for years.

I was really hoping for a step in the right direction and not more of the same.
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We didn't draft a combo guard today.... we drafted a sg and a pg.
 
hrdboild said:
So we didn't get an ideal frontcourt pairing, but I really think McLemore is an ideal backcourt mate for Tyreke. We got shooting, length, athleticism, defensive potential. We still have a huge need for a defensive frontcourt player but we don't have to worry about Noel's knee and there's less pressure now to find a deadeye shooter for SF. McLemore is the third scorer, we jettison Petrie's fleet of little chuckers, and we concentrate on adding defensive role players now.
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Seems like some of us thought the team would be built in a day. We have a ton left to do, and I'm confident that we'll
put forth as much effort as humanly possible.
 
A- for the draft.. Anytime you can get a consensus great talent of the draft at 7 its all good. Two weeks ago, maybe even a week ago McLemore's name wouldn't even be discussed, because the notion of acquiring him was moot. All the players that I was high on us drafting, like Burke and Adams, came with the thought that this dynamic kid from Kansas was out of reach. I think this is a step in the right direction of the new era
 
Arco Arena said:
Definitely worry?

I think it's pretty likely we'll see trades to get rid of some redundancy before the season starts. Also, I think you're mistaken if you think not one hole can be filled via free agency. Free agents do not flock to Sac, but they do flock to whoever offers the most money. While we are precluded from ever signing consensus max free agents (since we can't offer the most money), it certainly doesn't mean we can't make any meaningful acquisitions through free agency.
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Sure, as long as we overpay for them. The problem, as I've stated repeatedly, is that Sacramento can't get player X for the same price as another team; you might as well consider it a "putting up with living in Sacramento" signing bonus (no offense, locals). We could use a young-ish SF with range, like Wright, or a defensive stopper, like Kirilenko. Could we actually get them? Sure, maybe. But, I guarantee you, whatever Kirilenko's price would be to play for, say, Dallas, it's going to be that + at least $4M for him to play in Sac.

So, that's your plan, is it?
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Sure, as long as we overpay for them. The problem, as I've stated repeatedly, is that Sacramento can't get player X for the same price as another team; you might as well consider it a "putting up with living in Sacramento" signing bonus (no offense, locals). We could use a young-ish SF with range, like Wright, or a defensive stopper, like Kirilenko. Could we actually get them? Sure, maybe. But, I guarantee you, whatever Kirilenko's price would be to play for, say, Dallas, it's going to be that + at least $4M for him to play in Sac.

So, that's your plan, is it?
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To add to that, unless the plan is to shift Reke to PG (which I'm ok with trying), we still have a lot of holes to fill and we don't have much cap space. So we would need to acquire most of the pieces we need through trades and I don't think the pieces we want to move have that much value.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Sure, as long as we overpay for them. The problem, as I've stated repeatedly, is that Sacramento can't get player X for the same price as another team; you might as well consider it a "putting up with living in Sacramento" signing bonus (no offense, locals). We could use a young-ish SF with range, like Wright, or a defensive stopper, like Kirilenko. Could we actually get them? Sure, maybe. But, I guarantee you, whatever Kirilenko's price would be to play for, say, Dallas, it's going to be that + at least $4M for him to play in Sac.

So, that's your plan, is it?
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I disagree. Sure if it's the same contract with Sac vs another city it can play a role. But more importantly, so does available minutes and starting vs bench. AK would start and get minutes here. In Dallas they still have Marion so he would have to deal with maybe starting and less minutes.
 
I love the McLemore pick...provided that the idea is to pair him up with Tyreke.
I would have loved to to get Noel to pair along-side Cousins...but I wasn't expecting to have an opportunity at McLemore...so I find myself very pleased with the pick.

However, when it came to the 2nd round pick I really wanted Withey. He's been unbelievable at Kansas the last two years and I think he would have had a great defensive impact for our team next to Cousins. I know that a lot of people think the Cole is as-good/better...but I'd take Withey over Cole. (Obviously)

With that said...I'm actually not horribly upset with the McCallum pick-up. At the end of the day, you want someone who can play basketball...so if he can play basketball then ideally he'll be an asset to us down the line.
But realistically...this FO has a ton of work ahead of itself. I'm really hoping that the drafting of McLemore & McCallum isn't some indication that the FO wants to let Tyreke walk...because if we lose Tyreke for nothing that will have made this whole thing a disaster.
But if the plan is to build around Cousins/Tyreke/McLemore...then we have a lot of work to do in regards to our glut of guards.

I want to give the FO the benefit of the doubt...so I'm not going to go crazy just yet...but I truly wish they would have picked up a player (in the 2nd round) who played a position which made more sense given our current roster.
 
I think the belief that there was this clear elite group at the top of the draft was purely artificial, I don't see McLemore being obviously better than Burke at all. People got caught up way too much with the hype. A player gets mentioned at the top of the draft for most of the year, and it just gets repeated and repeated by a bunch of media sources, and then it becomes some artificial truth. The hope with me on McLemore is just that he can defy what he's showed and learn to use his athleticism and shooting ability in more than just a Jason Richardson role. Thomas Robinson was considered a great value pick for us because he was mentioned so high in the draft for so long. Just because something gets repeated a lot as being true, doesn't make it so.
 
I'm not worried by our excess of guards. There were no decent SFs available, and besides, our backcourt figures to clear up anyways. We can pretty much say goodbye to Jimmer, who is rumored to be on the trade block, IT's option can be declined and TD is a free agent. I wouldn't be dissapointed with a Reke/Mclemore backcourt, and the potential of that kind of pairing is on par with the potential Kidd/Hardaway offered, only with a greater chance of fruition. Bargain FA siging and/or MT can back Mclemore up at SG, and McCallum is a guy who I've had one eye on for a while. He'll make a great 6th man. But man, MCLEMORE! BEN FRIGGIN MCLEMORE!!! Can I get a WOOT-WOOT!
 
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Section 101 said:
I disagree. Sure if it's the same contract with Sac vs another city it can play a role. But more importantly, so does available minutes and starting vs bench. AK would start and get minutes here. In Dallas they still have Marion so he would have to deal with maybe starting and less minutes.
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If Dallas makes a play for Kirilenko, Marion will already be gone, so that's out the window.
 
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