2013 Draft Prospects
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Yep. The more combine watching and prospect reading I do, the more I'm leaning towards drafting a big man this year.
Unless we luck into Otto Porter, or decide one of the SF prospects are worth it (Karasev, Saric, and Adetokunbo I'm looking at you) It may finally be time to pick that guy we stick next to Cousins for the next 10 years.
We are right in that sweet spot where we'll have the pick of the litter in terms of bigs. Noel will be gone, but between Len, Adams, and Gobert, the choice will be ours. I think you have to capitalize on that opportunity. I'd be fine with any of them, honestly. Adams may have the slight edge after what I've seen the past two days.
I'm falling out of love with Oladipo a little bit. I stil like him as a player, but I like him less for this team. Largely because I fear the drafting of Oladipo would mean the end of Evans career in Sacramento. I'm just not sure you can play both guys together unless Evans moves to point full time, but even then I don't think Oladipo can handle the ball well enough to be Evans 2. There is a scenario where Oladipo can play SF, but I don't think I'd be totally confortable with it. I personally would rather just avoid that situation all together and get one of these bigs.
I'd also be perfectly happy trading down depending on whats in it for us (salary dumping Hayes or Salmons) Or if we traded Indiana our pick and Thornton for their pick and Granger. Under this scenario, I'd be happy with Dieng. I think he'll be a good player, just too old to pick in the top 10. Could come in and help right away, though. Adding Dieng and Granger would put us in a good position to get that 8 seed.
Unless we luck into Otto Porter, or decide one of the SF prospects are worth it (Karasev, Saric, and Adetokunbo I'm looking at you) It may finally be time to pick that guy we stick next to Cousins for the next 10 years.
We are right in that sweet spot where we'll have the pick of the litter in terms of bigs. Noel will be gone, but between Len, Adams, and Gobert, the choice will be ours. I think you have to capitalize on that opportunity. I'd be fine with any of them, honestly. Adams may have the slight edge after what I've seen the past two days.
I'm falling out of love with Oladipo a little bit. I stil like him as a player, but I like him less for this team. Largely because I fear the drafting of Oladipo would mean the end of Evans career in Sacramento. I'm just not sure you can play both guys together unless Evans moves to point full time, but even then I don't think Oladipo can handle the ball well enough to be Evans 2. There is a scenario where Oladipo can play SF, but I don't think I'd be totally confortable with it. I personally would rather just avoid that situation all together and get one of these bigs.
I'd also be perfectly happy trading down depending on whats in it for us (salary dumping Hayes or Salmons) Or if we traded Indiana our pick and Thornton for their pick and Granger. Under this scenario, I'd be happy with Dieng. I think he'll be a good player, just too old to pick in the top 10. Could come in and help right away, though. Adding Dieng and Granger would put us in a good position to get that 8 seed.
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Yeah, Oladipo can be a good Tony Allen type, but is that what we want? I suppose you may look back on this draft and think, "wow a Tony Allen with a spot up jumper is something special," but with the 6th or 7th pick? It's hard to settle for a player that won't fit into your core rotation. I think Burke is now probably not going to be in our range unless we move into the top 3, but he'd be a good pick since I think his WCS is a solid starting PG (and that's saying a lot in today's league.) Otto Porter would be a similar type pick to Oladipo, except he has the size and position to fit at the SF, so I'd be in favor of him, he strikes me as a Tayshaun Prince type. Adams and Gobert are solid project C's in a draft like this, and even though Gobert's measurements are very special, I've been looking at Adams as an eventual top 5-10 pick if he stayed in school, and I shouldn't let lack of college experience damper that perception of him. He's shown that he's a diligent worker, that he has some passing ability, that he has very good athleticism, decent length, good feel on the defensive end, and a legit NBA center body.
Saric and Adetokunbo are definitely the wild cards here. Adetokunbo in terms of whether he's a real basketball player, and Saric whether he can develop his shooting to a respectable level. Karasev is a solid safe pick, but I'd probably want to trade down for him if we go that way. He's a probably just a decent role player though, but that could end up meaning a lot in a draft like this.
Saric and Adetokunbo are definitely the wild cards here. Adetokunbo in terms of whether he's a real basketball player, and Saric whether he can develop his shooting to a respectable level. Karasev is a solid safe pick, but I'd probably want to trade down for him if we go that way. He's a probably just a decent role player though, but that could end up meaning a lot in a draft like this.
Oladipo with a 42" vertical...wow. Normally it doesn't really matter much, but he actually uses it in his game. Height measurement was a little low; he will be listed at 6'4", maybe 6'5". I could see teams from 4-8 picking him just to guard the quicker guards like Paul, Parker, Westbrook, and Curry. He would match up well.
I also like McCollum. He'd be a great fit alongside Tyreke if the Kings decide to keep him. Closest player I've seen to Steph Curry, and has a lot of similarities coming out of college - namely, can he play a lead guard? The guy shot 51% from 3 while being the number one option on his team...that's impressive. Can't wait to see the direction the new front office goes in this draft and free agency/trades.
I think he's in the mix if the Kings don't move up to the top 3.
I think he's in the mix if the Kings don't move up to the top 3.
Nope, not surprising at all. He's a terrific athlete that can guard either guard position. I still like him for the Kings, and don't see a problem with the fit. I'd pass the PG baton back to Tyreke and put Oladipo next to him. It would be one of the better defensive backcourts in the NBA in time. Oladipo is a very good spot up shooter and plays well off the ball. He's not my first choice, but if all others are gone that I like, I'd certainly have to give him serious consideration.
At the moment, I'm in agreement with Massy. There are some very good prospects at the center position, and although some of them look like projects, the reward down the road may be worth it. Obviously, if we luck out and win the lottery, then I think you have to go with Noel, injury or not. Its also possible to just move up into the top three, in which case I'd go with Porter, who I don't see in the same light as Oladipo. Porter has legit size for the SF position, and he's very skilled. Good defender, good BBIQ, good passer, and he can shoot the ball. Probably never be a star, but he'll be a solid starter.
Other than that scenario, I'd be inclined to take a shot at Gobert or Adams. Potential wise, there's not a lot of difference between the top pick and the 14th pick. You just have to get lucky and choose the right one.
At the moment, I'm in agreement with Massy. There are some very good prospects at the center position, and although some of them look like projects, the reward down the road may be worth it. Obviously, if we luck out and win the lottery, then I think you have to go with Noel, injury or not. Its also possible to just move up into the top three, in which case I'd go with Porter, who I don't see in the same light as Oladipo. Porter has legit size for the SF position, and he's very skilled. Good defender, good BBIQ, good passer, and he can shoot the ball. Probably never be a star, but he'll be a solid starter.
Other than that scenario, I'd be inclined to take a shot at Gobert or Adams. Potential wise, there's not a lot of difference between the top pick and the 14th pick. You just have to get lucky and choose the right one.
I think you asked the important question. Can he play the PG position, and of course, exactly what will the new management of the Kings expect from their PG? If your expecting Nash or Paul, then I wouldn't go there. But if your looking for someone to bring up the ball, and then let someone else start the offense, as in the triangle offense, then McCullum might the right guy for the job. There is no doubt that he can score. And he's an efficent scorer. He's fun to watch, and its a shame he got injured toward the end of the season.
Michael Carter-Williams posted a 41" vert. At 6'6, with those hops, and as the best passer in this draft (in my opinion)... man, he has so much potential.
The only guard I'd be ok with because he brings playmaking and selflessness, two skills we sorely need at PG. If he can use that size to bully other guards ... he and Evans would be very tough to handle. We don't know what kind of defender he is because of the Syracuse zone blah blah blah, but I'd lean more towards good defender than bad. Certainly has a knack for steals.
Again, not my first choice, but he'd be my first choice if we went guard.
The only guard I'd be ok with because he brings playmaking and selflessness, two skills we sorely need at PG. If he can use that size to bully other guards ... he and Evans would be very tough to handle. We don't know what kind of defender he is because of the Syracuse zone blah blah blah, but I'd lean more towards good defender than bad. Certainly has a knack for steals.
Again, not my first choice, but he'd be my first choice if we went guard.
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There are similarities between McCollum and Curry, but Curry had much better playmaking abilities in college though. He's not a bad guy to take, but we can probably do better at our position.
I'm not okay with Evans being PG again. I'm sorry, I'm fine with Evans sticking around as a scorer who can iso and pass a bit, but he's not someone you can build an offense around. We can talk on and on about his potential and how he hasn't had good coaches, but true franchise players, players you can really build teams around don't let things like that stop them from showing what they're truly made of. If he needs that much catering, then he's not really as special as some people wanted to believe over the years. You'd have a find a real facilitator at the 3 if you wanted an Evans/Oladipo backcourt. That's not to say I'm against drafting Oladipo, but not with a Evans/Oladipo backcourt in mind, I would consider him or Evans a third guard.
I'm not okay with Evans being PG again. I'm sorry, I'm fine with Evans sticking around as a scorer who can iso and pass a bit, but he's not someone you can build an offense around. We can talk on and on about his potential and how he hasn't had good coaches, but true franchise players, players you can really build teams around don't let things like that stop them from showing what they're truly made of. If he needs that much catering, then he's not really as special as some people wanted to believe over the years. You'd have a find a real facilitator at the 3 if you wanted an Evans/Oladipo backcourt. That's not to say I'm against drafting Oladipo, but not with a Evans/Oladipo backcourt in mind, I would consider him or Evans a third guard.
MCW looks like fool's gold to me. Yeah, stat stuffer, big PG, and very good athlete, but not a lot of substance IMO. Doesn't protect the ball well, horrible shooter despite decent mechanics, poor finisher, poor shot selection, and poor decision maker. He's a cute novelty, but has got huge bust potential. He's fun to day dream about, but if you're going to take a risk, take it on a big, not a raw PG.
I read somewhere after day 1 of the combine that Len and Muscala were two of the players we interviewed. I want to say I saw a whole list, and Len was the only 'big' name. Could be wrong, I'll try to dig it up.
Edit: Found it. https://twitter.com/mr_jasonjones
I read Muscala somewhere.
Edit: Found it. https://twitter.com/mr_jasonjones
I read Muscala somewhere.
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All my attention turns towards the draft 
I have a few questions if anyone could answer that would be brilliant...
- I have asked this twice on the thread and so far have no answers... why had shabazz muhammad fallen??
- Have i missed the combine??? if so when was it??
- I see Steve Adams has declared for the draft (as you might know im an NZer) any chance of us getting him 1st or 2nd round?
I have a few questions if anyone could answer that would be brilliant...
- I have asked this twice on the thread and so far have no answers... why had shabazz muhammad fallen??
- Have i missed the combine??? if so when was it??
- I see Steve Adams has declared for the draft
(as you might know im an NZer) any chance of us getting him 1st or 2nd round?
I think Oladipo is going to be much better than people think. I'd be very happy with him and putting Tyreke back to PG. With a competent coach, it could work.
Gobert has immense physical tools and he brings the skills that we need. I still don't know enough about him, but I'd be fine with him if he does well in workouts.
Gobert has immense physical tools and he brings the skills that we need. I still don't know enough about him, but I'd be fine with him if he does well in workouts.
On a more serious note he shot a lot yesterday and made like 30% of his uncontested jumpers. For a shooting scorer he will need some Quincy Douby level heroics in some team's workout to get into top-10.
Seems like Myck Kabongo and Archie Goodwin were ice cold in Chicago as well. This trio shot .711, .792, .637 from FT line this season, so Kabongo probably have hope as far as his shooting goes.
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It just ended.
He simply didn't dominate in college the way he was expected to. He shot well enough overall, but he didn't consistently break teams down off of the dribble. He also had too much of a me-first attitude - he didn't show a willingness to pass and had one incident where a teammate took (and hit) an open shot to win the game at the buzzer and instead of celebrating the win Shabazz moped off the court because he was open too and didn't get the pass. Oh, and "his camp" has spent who knows how long lying about his age only for it to come out he's a year older than he said he was. He has been insisting that he never lied about his age, but it doesn't appear he ever went to the trouble to correct the official listings at UCLA or anything.
So, a ton of red flags. But then again, he is talented and it's hard to imagine that he'll fall out of the middle of the lottery. There's no evidence he's a criminal, or anything, he's just selfish and immature and somebody's going to figure it's worth the chance they can grow him out of it.
Probably not much of a chance. Unless he suddenly impresses so much that his stock jumps into the top-ten (and it isn't right now), our first round pick will be too high to take him - there will probably be better players on the board. But he'll be long gone by our pick in the early second round. Right now I would say that if we were going to get him, it would probably involve a trade or a "reach" with a #6/#7 pick, but neither is very likely in my eyes.
So, a ton of red flags. But then again, he is talented and it's hard to imagine that he'll fall out of the middle of the lottery. There's no evidence he's a criminal, or anything, he's just selfish and immature and somebody's going to figure it's worth the chance they can grow him out of it.
- I see Steve Adams has declared for the draft (as you might know im an NZer) any chance of us getting him 1st or 2nd round?
(as you might know im an NZer) any chance of us getting him 1st or 2nd round?
Sounds like what people said about drummond... shame because he speaks extreamly well and i was rooting for him
So i have missed the combine and the new zealander isnt coming to sacremento... what a terrible end to the day
have a top 5 players been decided then? or is the draft wide open??
So i have missed the combine and the new zealander isnt coming to sacremento... what a terrible end to the day
have a top 5 players been decided then? or is the draft wide open??
The situation isn't comparable to Drummonds.
The draft is still pretty wide open. I'd imagine workouts will determine a lot, probably moreso than in other years. There's no concensus yet.
Muhammed isn't nearly as athletic as he was billed to be, solid shooter but not great, bad shot selection, black hole, and pretty much can't do anything besides take shots. His hype has come IMO from him just being able to bully his competition with his strength at the HS level. Everything about him screams one-dimensional and a trigger happy prima donna. He's the last guy I'd want the Kings to draft.
I've been thinking about this, and if we happen to get a top 3 pick, I really don't want Noel. I just have a really bad feeling about him since he's had knee problems, he's a twig with a really weak frame, good but not great length, and doesn't have Noah/Camby IQ. I don't think he's going to be worth the value of his pick, I'd rather take Burke or trade down.
Sounds like what people said about drummond... shame because he speaks extreamly well and i was rooting for him
So i have missed the combine and the new zealander isnt coming to sacremento... what a terrible end to the day
have a top 5 players been decided then? or is the draft wide open??
So i have missed the combine and the new zealander isnt coming to sacremento... what a terrible end to the day
have a top 5 players been decided then? or is the draft wide open??
Its not uncommon though for great highschool players to come back to earth in college, where the competition is tougher, and the players are more skilled and just as big. Personally, I want no part of him, and I'd take Drummond 10 times before I'd even look at Muhammad. Drummond has has shown, at least for one year, that he wants to be in the NBA and is willing to put in the work. Muhammad strikes me as though he feels entitled to some extent. I could be wrong, but thats how he came across to me when I watched him play. Very selfish player!
I think Noah's BBIQ is just fine, and I saw nothing when I watched him play to make me doubt it. However, his knee's are definitely a concern going forward, and I wouldn't have a problem with a GM passing on him because of his knee problems. If he can remain healthy, then I think he should be chosen in the top three, and probably number one. Unfortunately, there's no way to know, so its a crap shoot.
I was happy to see Burke measured out at 6'1.25" in shoes, which is almost Chris Paul's height in shoes. I'd have no problem with us drafting him, but if we did, then someone has to go out of the group of Jimmer, Thomas, Thornton, Evans, Salmons and Douglas. Probably two of them. I'd like to keep Douglas as a defensive stopper if nothing else, and see if he can develop better PG skills. I'd amnesty Salmons, and try and package Thornton and Thomas, or Thornton and Jimmer for an area of need.
I've been very impressed with Adams at the combine. It doesn't change what I saw on the court, but his shot has really improved, and he appears athletic enough to play PF. At the moment, were sitting at number 6 with the hope of moving into the top three. However, its also possible that after the lottery we could slide down to number 7 or even 8th, at which point, Adams wouldn't be that big a reach. I think he's going to start rising up the draft boards if he shows well in his workouts.
I still love Oladipo, and although he measured out at just over 6'4" in shoes, he also has an 6'9" wingspan, and a huge vertical, so he actually playes taller than he is, which matches what I saw at Indiana. His running mate, Cody didn't fare that well, and I wouldn't be shocked to see him possibly slide out of the lottery. He said prior to the combine that his wingspan was larger than the reported 6'10", and he was right, it was a whole inch longer at 6'11". That mirrors exactly what I saw at Indiana, where every time he came up against a player as tall or taller than him, he struggled big time. I think his only chance to play effectively in the NBA is at the PF position, and he's probably athletic enough to play there. Unfortunately, most of his game right now is at the basket. So he has a lot of work to do to change positions.
I can't allow myself to get excited about Michael Carter-Williams. His shooting wasn't just bad, it was horrible. I'm not ready to sit and wait another 2 or 3 years hoping that he learns how to shoot the ball effectively. His defense looked very good, but then he played in a zone his entire career at Syracuse, and, he went to Syracuse, a school known for turning out huge busts. Perhaps I'm being too hard on him, but I'm gunshy about Syracuse players, and about players that appear to have no feel for shooting the ball. I wish him well, but I hope its on someone else's team.
I was happy to see Burke measured out at 6'1.25" in shoes, which is almost Chris Paul's height in shoes. I'd have no problem with us drafting him, but if we did, then someone has to go out of the group of Jimmer, Thomas, Thornton, Evans, Salmons and Douglas. Probably two of them. I'd like to keep Douglas as a defensive stopper if nothing else, and see if he can develop better PG skills. I'd amnesty Salmons, and try and package Thornton and Thomas, or Thornton and Jimmer for an area of need.
I've been very impressed with Adams at the combine. It doesn't change what I saw on the court, but his shot has really improved, and he appears athletic enough to play PF. At the moment, were sitting at number 6 with the hope of moving into the top three. However, its also possible that after the lottery we could slide down to number 7 or even 8th, at which point, Adams wouldn't be that big a reach. I think he's going to start rising up the draft boards if he shows well in his workouts.
I still love Oladipo, and although he measured out at just over 6'4" in shoes, he also has an 6'9" wingspan, and a huge vertical, so he actually playes taller than he is, which matches what I saw at Indiana. His running mate, Cody didn't fare that well, and I wouldn't be shocked to see him possibly slide out of the lottery. He said prior to the combine that his wingspan was larger than the reported 6'10", and he was right, it was a whole inch longer at 6'11". That mirrors exactly what I saw at Indiana, where every time he came up against a player as tall or taller than him, he struggled big time. I think his only chance to play effectively in the NBA is at the PF position, and he's probably athletic enough to play there. Unfortunately, most of his game right now is at the basket. So he has a lot of work to do to change positions.
I can't allow myself to get excited about Michael Carter-Williams. His shooting wasn't just bad, it was horrible. I'm not ready to sit and wait another 2 or 3 years hoping that he learns how to shoot the ball effectively. His defense looked very good, but then he played in a zone his entire career at Syracuse, and, he went to Syracuse, a school known for turning out huge busts. Perhaps I'm being too hard on him, but I'm gunshy about Syracuse players, and about players that appear to have no feel for shooting the ball. I wish him well, but I hope its on someone else's team.
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Curious case of Draymond Green.
I watched 3 games of Spurs-Warriors games in a row, and noticed Draymond Green played in limited role but very successfully. More interesting even though he looks average at best athletically seemed like defense was solid what is impressive for a rookie in PO. Looking at advanced stats on basketball-reference he trailed only to Bogut in Drtg, which is really impressive for a rookie who was 35th pick. So i went to http://www.sports-reference.com to see what he's done in college. Unfortunately they calculate Drtg only since 09/10 season, but cutting off at arbitrary figure of 800 minutes per season college stats it seems like Green was pretty good defender at college as well. Notice that freshman at row #18. Now of course Drtg is very dependent on players surrounding the guy in question as you can notice in the example of Kentavious Caldwell-Pope his team scored at least 17 points less and allowed at least 6 points more per possession without him on the floor.
So what's my point? Even though Drtg and Ortg are two arbitrary products of statistics, seems like guys with huge (Ortg-Drtg) differential from major and mid-major conferences become at least NBA contributors if they have at least average size and athleticism. So what are those guys this year? Three seniors look most obvious: Arsalan Kazemi from Oregon (+40.3=123.3-83.0), Mike Muscala from Bucknell (+36.6=121.0-84.4) and James Southerland from Syracuse (+33.1=121.9-88.8). Muscala and Southerland were in Chicago for NBA Combine, but all three are expected to last till #36 at this point and nobody considers Kazemi draftable. Both Muscala and Kazemi had more than 28.0 in DefReb%(just for fun to put in perspective best defensive rebounders in college) and Southerland is one of the best 3pt shooters in the country at .398 with 6.2 attempts per game.
I watched 3 games of Spurs-Warriors games in a row, and noticed Draymond Green played in limited role but very successfully. More interesting even though he looks average at best athletically seemed like defense was solid what is impressive for a rookie in PO. Looking at advanced stats on basketball-reference he trailed only to Bogut in Drtg, which is really impressive for a rookie who was 35th pick. So i went to http://www.sports-reference.com to see what he's done in college. Unfortunately they calculate Drtg only since 09/10 season, but cutting off at arbitrary figure of 800 minutes per season college stats it seems like Green was pretty good defender at college as well. Notice that freshman at row #18. Now of course Drtg is very dependent on players surrounding the guy in question as you can notice in the example of Kentavious Caldwell-Pope his team scored at least 17 points less and allowed at least 6 points more per possession without him on the floor.
So what's my point? Even though Drtg and Ortg are two arbitrary products of statistics, seems like guys with huge (Ortg-Drtg) differential from major and mid-major conferences become at least NBA contributors if they have at least average size and athleticism. So what are those guys this year? Three seniors look most obvious: Arsalan Kazemi from Oregon (+40.3=123.3-83.0), Mike Muscala from Bucknell (+36.6=121.0-84.4) and James Southerland from Syracuse (+33.1=121.9-88.8). Muscala and Southerland were in Chicago for NBA Combine, but all three are expected to last till #36 at this point and nobody considers Kazemi draftable. Both Muscala and Kazemi had more than 28.0 in DefReb%(just for fun to put in perspective best defensive rebounders in college) and Southerland is one of the best 3pt shooters in the country at .398 with 6.2 attempts per game.
I'm just saying I don't think he can be a Noah, because doesn't have his IQ, offensively or defensively. The combination of knee problems and him being very narrow and only weighing 206 lbs (he's skinnier than Gobert), is what just really kills it for me.
Burke on the other hand though, is a legit 6'1 in shoes, 190, and has above average wingspan and reach for a player his height. The only thing that makes me think twice about his upside is that the successful PG's at his height in the NBA right now are better athletes than him. He's solid-good athlete, especially change of pace/direction, but PG's are just so fast and quick right now. WCS, I think you get a solid starting PG though who can do the basic things you expect from a PG. If you have to do some trades to clear up a log jam, then just do some trades.
As far as reaching for Adams goes, you can always trade down, and who really cares in this draft? Is there really a legit argument for there being a huge difference between mid-late lotto and mid-late first? Eh, I don't think so, and if Gobert is in there, then is Adams really a stretch? What has Gobert proven that Adams hasn't?
Burke on the other hand though, is a legit 6'1 in shoes, 190, and has above average wingspan and reach for a player his height. The only thing that makes me think twice about his upside is that the successful PG's at his height in the NBA right now are better athletes than him. He's solid-good athlete, especially change of pace/direction, but PG's are just so fast and quick right now. WCS, I think you get a solid starting PG though who can do the basic things you expect from a PG. If you have to do some trades to clear up a log jam, then just do some trades.
As far as reaching for Adams goes, you can always trade down, and who really cares in this draft? Is there really a legit argument for there being a huge difference between mid-late lotto and mid-late first? Eh, I don't think so, and if Gobert is in there, then is Adams really a stretch? What has Gobert proven that Adams hasn't?
Your arguement against Noah is a legit one. I happen to like Noah quite a bit, but that doesn't mean he'll blossom in the NBA. There's no doubt that he has to add muscle, which will probably be harder for him than it is Davis because of his slight frame. I've never seen Noah as a center, but always as a PF in the NBA. I think he can get away with being underweight a little at the PF position, but not so at the center position.
No arguement from me on Burke. I've liked him all year long, and he's the best all around PG in this draft. Being 6'1" in shoes just nailed it down more for me.
I've never understood the reach argument. If you like a player and you think he's the best fit for you team, then you draft him and forget about where he projected. Just about everyone says the if the draft were done over, Chandler Parsons would be a top 10 pick now. Well, if you like a player and you think he's being undervalued, you go ahead and take him. Its not a popularity contest, its about aquiring the best player for your team. Where a player is projected to go is just someone else's perception of that player. Anyone is welcome to disagree with that projection. Peja was a so called reach. So was Hedo. Some could argue that J. Will was a reach at the time, however its rumored that Jerry West was ready to pick him right after the Kings passed on him. Except of course, we didn't.
No arguement from me on Burke. I've liked him all year long, and he's the best all around PG in this draft. Being 6'1" in shoes just nailed it down more for me.
I've never understood the reach argument. If you like a player and you think he's the best fit for you team, then you draft him and forget about where he projected. Just about everyone says the if the draft were done over, Chandler Parsons would be a top 10 pick now. Well, if you like a player and you think he's being undervalued, you go ahead and take him. Its not a popularity contest, its about aquiring the best player for your team. Where a player is projected to go is just someone else's perception of that player. Anyone is welcome to disagree with that projection. Peja was a so called reach. So was Hedo. Some could argue that J. Will was a reach at the time, however its rumored that Jerry West was ready to pick him right after the Kings passed on him. Except of course, we didn't.
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