2010 Free agents by Position:

So sorry to hear that.

Our last dog (before the one we have now) was diabetic for years (gave her insulin shots twice daily) and had pancreatitis. Man, that was hard. She passed away a couple years ago......

Yeah, the vet said that had it been caught sooner it could have been treated. He also said that unfortunately with dogs, most times by the time its detected, its too late. If your fortunate enough to have a blood test done and find it in its early stages, then, as in your case you can extend the life of the dog quite some time. Oh well, back to basketball..
 
Reasonable players with an early termination option are.
Tyson Chandler and Nazr Mohammed.

Chandler is back and has been beasting of late. 16, 10 and 5 blocks last night. I know a lot of people aren't a fan of bringing him in due to injury concerns, but he is exactly what we need on the inside. I LOVE his game and his still relatively young. I think he'd fit in here perfectly. It's unlikely he opts out of his ETO at something like $11 M yeah???
 
Chandler is back and has been beasting of late. 16, 10 and 5 blocks last night. I know a lot of people aren't a fan of bringing him in due to injury concerns, but he is exactly what we need on the inside. I LOVE his game and his still relatively young. I think he'd fit in here perfectly. It's unlikely he opts out of his ETO at something like $11 M yeah???

There's no doubt that a healthy Chandler would be a great addition. Its that healthy part that kind of hangs there. My fear is that he would want a pretty big salary and for as many years as he can squeeze out of a team. With a new CBA looming after next season, the last thing I would want to do is sign an oft injured player to an expensive long term salary, when that same player might be signed for half the price under the new CBA a year later. I think overpaying for anyone short of a superstar might not be a good idea. Now if we could get him for a one year deal with options, then I'd go for it. Not likely though, since he would optiing out with the idea of getting a deal before the new CBA kicks in.
 
Since I just love redundancy, I decided to list all the free agents by position and seperate them into three groups. Unrestricted, Restricted, and Player option or Early Termination Option. The last two being different in only how their applied in the contract, but both have the same result as far as freeagency goes. The player can opt out.

Point Guards
Unrestricted
Raymond Felton
Steve Blake
Chris Duhon
Allen Iverson
Earl Watson
Eddie House
Derrick Fisher
Luke Ridnour
Jamal Tinsley
Rafer Alston
Jannero Pargo
Carlos Arroyo
Acie Law
Mike James
Jason Williams
Chucky Atkins
Kevin Ollie
Chris Quin
Marcus Williams
Anthony Carter
Travis Diener

Player Option or ETO
T.J. Ford
Shannon Brown
Sebastian Telfair

Restricted
Kyle Lowery
Jordan Farmer
Sergio Rodiguez

Shooting Guards

Unrestricted
Joe Johnson
Manu Ginobili
Ray Allen
Roger Mason
Mike Miller
Ronald Murray
Marquis Daniels
Raja Bell
Michael Finley
Larry Hughes
Rodney Carney
Keith Bogans
Tony Allen
Luther Head
Jarvis Crittenton
J.R. Giddens
Devin Brown
Cuttino Mobley

Player Option or ETO
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Michael Redd-ETO
Maurice Evans
Quinton Ross
Willie Green

Restricted
Randy Foye
DeShawn Stevenson
J.J. Redick
Mardy Collins

Small Forwards

Unrestricted
Tracy McGrady
Kyle Korver
Travis Outlaw
Rasual Butler
Quentin Richardson
Jarvis Hayes
Sasha Pavlovic
Antoine Wright
Trenton Hassell
Joe Alexander
Joey Graham
Damien Wilkins
Alando Tucker
Bobby Simmons
Stephen Graham
Ime Udoka
Matt Harpring
Devean George
Yakhouba Diawara

Player Option or ETO
LeBron James
Paul Pierce-ETO
Richard Jefferson-ETO
Kelenna Azubuike
Grant Hill
Valdimir Radmanovic-ETO
John Salmons-ETO
Matt Barnes
Jason Kapono

Restricted
Rudy Gay
Ronnie Brewer
Linis Kleiza
Adam Morrison

Power Forwards

Unrestricted
Carlos Boozer
David Lee
Al Harrington
Udonis Haslem
Drew Gooden
Hakim Warrick
Joe Smith
Craig Smith
James Singleton
Louis Amundson
Amir Johnson
Malik Allen
Oleksiy Pecherov
Sean May
Ike Diogu
Tim Thomas
Brian Cardinal
Matt Bonner
Fabricio Oberto
Josh Powell
Brian Cook
Jwan Howard
Brian Scalabrine
Steve Novak
Sheldon Williams

Player Option or ETO
Dirk Nowitzki-ETO
Amare Stoudemire-ETO
Chris Bosh
Kenyon Martin-ETO
Darius Songaila-ETO
Chris Wilcox
Kris Humphries
Jared Jeffries

Restricted
Tyrus Thomas

Centers

Unrestricted
Shaquille O'Neal
Marcus Camby
Jermaine O'Neal
Brad Miller
Brendan Haywood
Rasho Nesterovic
Darko Milicic
Kurt Thomas
Etan Thomas
Ben Wallace
Kwame Brown
Tony Battie
Jamaal Maglorie
Patrick O'Bryant
Mark Blount
Johan Petro
Brian Skinner
Primoz Brezec
Ian Mahinmi
Jason Collins
Jarron Collins
Sean Marks
Randolph Morris
Kyrylo Fesenko
Adonal Foyle
Jerome James
Francisco Elson
Didier LLunga Mbenga

Player Option or ETO
Yao Ming-ETO
Tyson Chandler-ETO
Joel Przybilla-ETO
Channing Frye
Eddie Curry
Nazr Mohammed-ETO
Joel Anthony

Restricted
Josh Boone
Hilton Armstrong


*I ommited Josh Howard in the small forward list because he has a team option. But its reported that Washington won't pick up his option. Therefore he'll more than likely be an unrestricted free agent. I also ommited all unguaranteed contracts. I read till my eye's bleed trying to figure out who the power laid with, and decided that it must lay with the team as an option on whether to guarantee it or not.

At center:
A bunch of scrubs, or over-the hill players, except for Brenden Haywood:
a 31 year-old fairly good player, considered young in the group of fairly good dinosaurs. :rolleyes:
 
Chandler is back and has been beasting of late. 16, 10 and 5 blocks last night. I know a lot of people aren't a fan of bringing him in due to injury concerns, but he is exactly what we need on the inside. I LOVE his game and his still relatively young. I think he'd fit in here perfectly. It's unlikely he opts out of his ETO at something like $11 M yeah???

If he doesn't opt out, we could try renting him for a year. The Bobcats did reasonably well without him for most of this season, and might be open to dumping him for pure salary cap relief.
 
Why would you want tyson chandler? He is a stick, is limited offensively, and wouldn't be much of an upgrade defensively over the way hawes has been playing D of late. Let's not bail out other teams, even ones in the east. And his stat line is good, as are his career averages, but is he really going the be the catalyst that tips the scales across the .500, or even the .400, let alone the near .600 it takes to make the playoffs in the west these days. Yes, I would rather have him than Nocioni, yes i would rather have him for a one year rental compared to a 5 year monster deal. But Tyson is a weak 7'1 Center, has never done anything of note, and can't carry a team with his own skill set. He was traded for Emeka!?!? any red flags on offense yet? Lets look to acquire someone who will be an asset for years, like David Lee. David Lee won the MCdonalds Slam dunk championship, he could easily be had for thompson or Landry and Petrie has a very solid relationship with Walsh, and im sure they could work out a mutually beneficial trade. We take Eddy curry and Lee, we get their picks and we give them Landry and beno. NyKs have enough money for like 3 max level FA's and we get lee and a couple picks.
 
Wow, just, wow.

Sweet, let's get David Lee because he won the McDonald's dunk contest in highschool.

We don't need a Center to play offense. If you've watched us play much this year you should know our biggest problem is defending the paint, protecting the rim, and rebounding. All things which Chandler does well. Much, much better then our current bigs. If you really think he's a defensive equivelent to Hawes then I just don't know what to say because, well, you're wrong, really wrong.
 
Why would you want tyson chandler? He is a stick, is limited offensively, and wouldn't be much of an upgrade defensively over the way hawes has been playing D of late. Let's not bail out other teams, even ones in the east. And his stat line is good, as are his career averages, but is he really going the be the catalyst that tips the scales across the .500, or even the .400, let alone the near .600 it takes to make the playoffs in the west these days. Yes, I would rather have him than Nocioni, yes i would rather have him for a one year rental compared to a 5 year monster deal. But Tyson is a weak 7'1 Center, has never done anything of note, and can't carry a team with his own skill set. He was traded for Emeka!?!? any red flags on offense yet? Lets look to acquire someone who will be an asset for years, like David Lee. David Lee won the MCdonalds Slam dunk championship, he could easily be had for thompson or Landry and Petrie has a very solid relationship with Walsh, and im sure they could work out a mutually beneficial trade. We take Eddy curry and Lee, we get their picks and we give them Landry and beno. NyKs have enough money for like 3 max level FA's and we get lee and a couple picks.
You can't be serious. Comparing Chandlers defense to Spencers? If thats trully how you feel, then you wouldn't know a defensive center if he knocked on your front door.

We wouldn't get him for offense. Offense isn't our problem. We need defense and rebounding. And no, Chandler wouldn't turn around this franchise, but he would help. So will a top 5 pick. So will our cap room. So will the maturation of our young players.

By the way, Chandler being traded for Okafor is not a red flag. I wouldn't mind having either of them. If you remember, which I doubt you do, Chandler was traded to OKC, failed the physical, and then went back to NO. They had no choice but to trade him again after that.
 
I would rather have Mbenga for sole reason that he is big and that face. He will be a FA this season and playing behind Bynum and Gasol maybe beneficial to him in some sort of way. Plus he's cheap and not slow at all.
 
You can't be serious. Comparing Chandlers defense to Spencers? If thats trully how you feel, then you wouldn't know a defensive center if he knocked on your front door.

We wouldn't get him for offense. Offense isn't our problem. We need defense and rebounding.

I keep reading that offense is not our problem. I think it definitely is our problem. If Spencer would shoot significantly better, I don't think he would get the flack he does. In fact, people would start talking about how we need to get a rebounding defensive power forward that complements him, not the other way around.
 
I'm looking for a little help from the capoligists on the fourm. After looking at the centers freeagent list. One that interests me is Fesenko. When I visit all the websites that show the salaries of players, they all show Fesenko being an unrestricted freeagent. After some investigating I think he falls under the Gilbert Arenas rule. He's been in the league for two years and both with Utah. So I'm then assuming that Utah has the right to make him a qualifing and therefore make him a restricted freeagent.

If I'm wrong somewhere up to now, please tell me. Now is where it gets complicated. As I understand it. Any other team that wants to make Fesenko an offer is restricted to keeping that first year offer at no more than the league average, or basicly, the same as the mid-level exception, with the second year in the offer at an 8% increase. However, if they want to offer, lets say a three year contract, then they could increase the offer considerably in the third year, as long as the average of the three year total doesn't exceed whatever they have available under the cap. For instance, if a team offers 5 mil the first year, and then the salary jumps up to 5.4 mil the second year and then they jump the third year up to 10.6 mil, the three average would be 7mil a year and that team would have to have 7 mil in cap space.

Got that so far? My question is: Since the rule is in place to help the original team not lose a valuable 2 year player, and the original team is also limited by cap space, then I'm assuming that by offering a big jump in the third year of an offer is one way of prying the player away. It also my understanding that if the original team doesn't have the 5 mil in cap space, it can then use its mid-level excemption to make the matching offer. Unless of course its already used its mid-level excemption.

So I guess the question is, how much is Fesenko worth? And how much would Utah be willing to spend since they're already capped out and seem intent on resigning players like Korver, Mathews, and Boozer.
 
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I'm looking for a little help from the capoligists on the fourm. After looking at the centers freeagent list. One that interests me is Fesenko. When I visit all the websites that show the salaries of players, they all show Fesenko being an unrestricted freeagent. After some investigating I think he falls under the Gilbert Arenas rule. He's been in the league for two years and both with Utah. So I'm then assuming that Utah has the right to make him a qualifing and therefore make him a restricted freeagent.

If I'm wrong somewhere up to now, please tell me. Now is where it gets complicated. As I understand it. Any other team that wants to make Fesenko an offer is restricted to keeping that first year offer at no more than the league average, or basicly, the same as the mid-level exception, with the second year in the offer at an 8% increase. However, if they want to offer, lets say a three year contract, then they could increase the offer considerably in the third year, as long as the average of the three year total doesn't exceed whatever they have available under the cap. For instance, if a team offers 5 mil the first year, and then the salary jumps up to 5.4 mil the second year and then they jump the third year up to 10.6 mil, the three average would be 7mil a year and that team would have to have 7 mil in cap space.

Got that so far? My question is: Since the rule is in place to help the orginal team not lose a valuable 2 year player, and the orginal team is also limited by cap space, then I'm assuming that by offering a big jump in the third year of an offer is one way of prying the player away. It also my understanding that if the orginal team doesn't have the 5 mil in cap space, it can then use its mid-level excemption to make the matching offer. Unless of course its already used its mid-level excemption.

So I guess the question is, how much is Fesenko worth? And how much would Utah be willing to spend since they're already capped out and seem intent on resigning players like Korver, Mathews, and Boozer.

First, this was his 3rd year. Second, 2nd round players are not bound by the rookie scale so they can't make him restricted.

According to http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695203477/Fesenkos-contract-finalized-by-all-parties.html it was a 3 year deal with the first 2 guaranteed so it looks like he's unrestricted.
 
Kyrylo Fesenko’s exit interview with Sloan and general manager Kevin O’Connor was believed to have been highly positive, possibly increasing the odds that the Jazz will look to re-sign Fesenko as a restricted free agent. -Salt Lake Tribune

Restricted FA. I would think a lot depends on Boozer. If he signs elsewhere, Utah won't have any problems matching whatever Fesenko is offered. If they resign Boozer, I think we could possibly offer a deal Utah wouldn't want to match.
 
This list really is garbage. I hope Geoff doesnt feel any pressure to sign someone. Our best move ( If we cant land Bosh ) would be to hold on to our capspace.

Seriously. You get into the season, teams start out bad .. you can really steal someone off a roster if you have the space. Much better than signing Lee to the Max this summer just to make a move.

I still think there is a potential move with the Wolves out there. We could use that cap space to get Big Al.
 
First, this was his 3rd year. Second, 2nd round players are not bound by the rookie scale so they can't make him restricted.

According to http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695203477/Fesenkos-contract-finalized-by-all-parties.html it was a 3 year deal with the first 2 guaranteed so it looks like he's unrestricted.

My bad on the years. I went to Yahoo sports NBA, and clicked on Utah. The roster came up and behind Fesenko's name it said 2 years experience. I shouldn't have stopped there. If you then click on the players name it comes up with his stats for three year.

However, I've heard it stated several times, including in the Utah newspapers that he's a restricted freeagent. If he's been with Utah for 3 years, then the Bird rights should apply. According to what I've read in the FAQ, it doesn't matter whether he was a first round pick or not. The only requirement only seems to be three completed years of service in a row with the same team. So that being said, it would make him a restricted free agent until such time that Utah would renounce his rights.

I have no idea why all the sites I visited show him being an unrestricted free agent.
 
Kyrylo Fesenko’s exit interview with Sloan and general manager Kevin O’Connor was believed to have been highly positive, possibly increasing the odds that the Jazz will look to re-sign Fesenko as a restricted free agent. -Salt Lake Tribune

Restricted FA. I would think a lot depends on Boozer. If he signs elsewhere, Utah won't have any problems matching whatever Fesenko is offered. If they resign Boozer, I think we could possibly offer a deal Utah wouldn't want to match.

Utah's problem is that they're already over the cap without signing anyone. Besides Boozer, they have Mathews, who they've basicly told they're going to resign him. And then there's Korver. I guess it all comes down to whether ownership wants to pay luxury tax again this coming season.
 
With freeagency looming I thought I'd bring this thread back to the front. Call me lazy but I like freeagents listed by position..
 
It would be nice if someone could just sticky this thread. I just find it easier to find players by position. Please! I'll even update the freeagents as their signed. :)
 
With freeagency looming I thought I'd bring this thread back to the front. Call me lazy but I like freeagents listed by position..

I would call you lazy (you did ask for it) but considering you created the list in the first place, I don't think that would be accurate. :D
 
Petrie likes head

I'm sure we all do, but petrie really gets hard for (luther) head. Petrie like myself have watched him since he played for the ducks, and talk about offensive spark plug. I really see a Bobby Jackson comparison, okay maybe not as good defensively as bobby but still has high ceiling imo offensively.

Head can definately hit an open shot, and if he (or his agent) don't try to go all Bonzi on people (like Houston and Sacramento). I think this young core can be great.

Bench- Landry and head (former teammates), Brockman, Dalembert, Garcia (if he is not hurt or playing horrible) = great bench
 
Heard Sasha suggested on other Forums

Heard Sasha Vucjajcjcjcicchk suggested on other forums for Garcia.

Kings reasons
Kings continue to clear out all these crappy salaries (see Nocioni). Garcia has mucho years; whereas, Sasha is one year. So brings sac more under cap next summer with new CBA.

Lakers reasons
They like Garcia and see him as underrated. Fisher comes up big, but lakers are wondering for how long and with farmar going bye-bye they see themselves with more than just a shooter, someone that has ran the team as a large guard.
 
I would love to trade garcia for sasha straight up, then simply sign head. We get consistent shooters and the pg and sg petrie says we still need.

Cousins, Thompson, Casspi (of old), Tyreke, Head

Bench- Udrih or Head, Green, Brockman, Landry, Udoka?, Dalembert.

Solidifies line up because already Talented and scary potential frontcourt combined with speed, shooting (Tyreke soon) and athleticism on the wing.
 
Heard Sasha Vucjajcjcjcicchk suggested on other forums for Garcia.

Kings reasons
Kings continue to clear out all these crappy salaries (see Nocioni). Garcia has mucho years; whereas, Sasha is one year. So brings sac more under cap next summer with new CBA.

Lakers reasons
They like Garcia and see him as underrated. Fisher comes up big, but lakers are wondering for how long and with farmar going bye-bye they see themselves with more than just a shooter, someone that has ran the team as a large guard.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO, **** that. I do NOT want Vujacic here. He is one of the players that I hate the most in this league.
 
Garcia is way more valuable than Sasha and his contract isn't so bad you dump it for nothing and make a rival better in the process.

"Come on!"-GOB
 
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