It's early, but anybody have a draft wish list yet?
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It's weird isn't it? Their focus seemed to be on big guys with Drummond, Zeller, Henson, and Sacre (maybe I forgot someone) and then I need some help in coming up with a name of a person who might be picked in the top 15. As I've said before, the only player that absolutely needed a workout was Drummond. The other players thought to be available in the top 5 either are not high priority (Beal) or if you read what other teams have said or gone over your tapes and talked with their coaches, it is pretty clear who they are. I HAVE noticed that a few KF favorites weren't brought in and what I mean is a few SFs who people have been high on and the Jones boys.
They seem to be working out people for their 2nd round pick and that's a necessity because there usually isn't a plethora of info on these folks. With your second round pick you at least have to get a guy whose personality is not a problem.
I do not think they are preparing for a trade down as personally I think that is a stupid move. There's great talent to be had at #5 and nothing wins better than talent. Well, except a good coach and owners. (cough) There is also the possibility of a trade and perhaps that's what is going on. The problem with the theory that they have a trade in mind is that our trade partner doesn't really know who he's going to get.
I suspect plan A is to use the trade to get a real, live, breathing human being or plan B, a trade
They seem to be working out people for their 2nd round pick and that's a necessity because there usually isn't a plethora of info on these folks. With your second round pick you at least have to get a guy whose personality is not a problem.
I do not think they are preparing for a trade down as personally I think that is a stupid move. There's great talent to be had at #5 and nothing wins better than talent. Well, except a good coach and owners. (cough) There is also the possibility of a trade and perhaps that's what is going on. The problem with the theory that they have a trade in mind is that our trade partner doesn't really know who he's going to get.
I suspect plan A is to use the trade to get a real, live, breathing human being or plan B, a trade
I think we are open to trading pick 5 for the right deal but as you say, the other party would not know what they are getting. That is why I doubt we have a deal in place at this stage. The other teams are not sure what is happening with the 4 picks before ours.
I do expect us to get a lot of calls this week. The picture is becoming a lot more clearer on what the other teams will do in the top 4 and dare I say on the eve of the draft the teams at least will know what the plans of each team are and we will start getting some serious offers.
I tend to think we will either get a SF (MKG or Barnes) or we will trade the pick. Depends on what we are getting in return from the trade, I would be happy with either option.
I do expect us to get a lot of calls this week. The picture is becoming a lot more clearer on what the other teams will do in the top 4 and dare I say on the eve of the draft the teams at least will know what the plans of each team are and we will start getting some serious offers.
I tend to think we will either get a SF (MKG or Barnes) or we will trade the pick. Depends on what we are getting in return from the trade, I would be happy with either option.
Washington would absolutely take MKG in that case
Hornets - Davis
Cavs - Beal
Wizards - MKG
Bobcats - Barnes
Kings - Robinson
Barnes and Robinson could be swapped, but I absolutely think the Bobcats are pickng Barnes as their only SF is Corey Maggette, Barnes is from North Carolina, and he (allegedly) has star potential.
If it's the Bobcats doings or not, this is working great for them - Wizards showed their hand way too early and if the Cavs are making a move this will be a bidding war, as the Wizards absolutely need Beal.
Hornets - Davis
Cavs - Beal
Wizards - MKG
Bobcats - Barnes
Kings - Robinson
Barnes and Robinson could be swapped, but I absolutely think the Bobcats are pickng Barnes as their only SF is Corey Maggette, Barnes is from North Carolina, and he (allegedly) has star potential.
If it's the Bobcats doings or not, this is working great for them - Wizards showed their hand way too early and if the Cavs are making a move this will be a bidding war, as the Wizards absolutely need Beal.
The only player that makes any sense for Washington right now is Beal.
If the Bobcats put together a deal with the Cavs to swap picks, I'm certain that the Wizards would match it, because Beal is the only one who makes sense.
If Beal is somehow not available for the Wizards, I could see them trading down for someone like Jeremy Lamb or Austin Rivers.
I don't see them taking MKG considering all the SFs they have on their team at the moment.
If the Bobcats put together a deal with the Cavs to swap picks, I'm certain that the Wizards would match it, because Beal is the only one who makes sense.
If Beal is somehow not available for the Wizards, I could see them trading down for someone like Jeremy Lamb or Austin Rivers.
I don't see them taking MKG considering all the SFs they have on their team at the moment.
I think Voison has it right in today's Bee. The Kings will takewhoever is left of Beal, Barnes, MKG, Robinson, or Davis. Whild waiting they will be taking phone calls from other teams assessing whether that would get them a better player, a better fit. The Kings have a lot of info on a lot of players, so I think they are ready to go whatever way the wind blows best. Good spot. Go Kings. Eat 'em up Petrie.
Personally I don't think there's anything weird about our pre-draft workouts. Basically, on draft night, we have 2 options:
1) Keep our pick
2) Trade down
If we keep our pick, we know there are 5 top guys, Davis, MKG, Robinson, Beal and Barnes. I think Petrie has already decided to take whoever is left on the board, and we could be very happy with that. I'm also pretty sure they have scouted those guys all season long, they know their strengths and weaknesses, so basically there's no need for a workout. It's like Anthony Davis: I don't think he had a workout in NO, because they already know he's their pick. Same thing here, we don't know who will be our guy, but we know there will be one there. Then, there's one guy who could jump in the top 5, based on his potential, which is Drummond. So, we brought him in to get a closer look and talk to him. We will find on draft night if that workout was a positive one.
In the second scenario, we trade down. If we do that, grabbing a late lottery pick and a veteran player, we need to know who to draft there. And I believe that's why we had Lillard, T. Jones, Zeller, Henson and now Harkless working out in Sacramento. Petrie has to be prepared in any case, so he's doing the right moves so far. For example, if we could land Iguodala and Phila's pick for the 5th and Salmons, we could grab Hanson with the pick and we'd be very happy with that.
Let's see, it's going to be a fun draft with a lot of options out there. I can't wait to see what happens.
1) Keep our pick
2) Trade down
If we keep our pick, we know there are 5 top guys, Davis, MKG, Robinson, Beal and Barnes. I think Petrie has already decided to take whoever is left on the board, and we could be very happy with that. I'm also pretty sure they have scouted those guys all season long, they know their strengths and weaknesses, so basically there's no need for a workout. It's like Anthony Davis: I don't think he had a workout in NO, because they already know he's their pick. Same thing here, we don't know who will be our guy, but we know there will be one there. Then, there's one guy who could jump in the top 5, based on his potential, which is Drummond. So, we brought him in to get a closer look and talk to him. We will find on draft night if that workout was a positive one.
In the second scenario, we trade down. If we do that, grabbing a late lottery pick and a veteran player, we need to know who to draft there. And I believe that's why we had Lillard, T. Jones, Zeller, Henson and now Harkless working out in Sacramento. Petrie has to be prepared in any case, so he's doing the right moves so far. For example, if we could land Iguodala and Phila's pick for the 5th and Salmons, we could grab Hanson with the pick and we'd be very happy with that.
Let's see, it's going to be a fun draft with a lot of options out there. I can't wait to see what happens.
I really like Moe Harkless too -- he's right in the mix with Barnes and Kidd-Gilchrist as the best SFs in the draft I think. He can't shoot yet but he's already a very good defender and rebounder and he brings a lot of the same energy that Gilchrist does. He's the only guy I wouldn't mind trading down for because he's underrated right now and we could add two very good players instead of one if we target one of Houston's picks and Kyle Lowry for instance. I'm glad he's coming in for a workout at least.
The knock on harkless is that he struggles with his shot and has poor mechanics, compare that to Barnes who is noted for his shooting stroke.
Obviously I'm only going off what i've read on the draft sites i can't mind seeing him play at all.
Apparently he was forced to play the 5 a fair bit in college!
Obviously I'm only going off what i've read on the draft sites i can't mind seeing him play at all.
Apparently he was forced to play the 5 a fair bit in college!
Out of that group, I really like Kyle O'Quinn. He came up big in the tourney helping his team upset Missouri, and me, since it screwed up my bracket. Very athletic big man who can rebound and block some shots. Would be a nice pick up in the second round. Alex Young from IUPUI is also a nice player. The others are possible summer league fodder, or possible training camp invitee's
I like Harkless! He's a very good athlete, and played good defense. Not as good as MKG or Taylor, but good. My problem with Harkless is that he's just a terrible outside shooter, shooting only 21% from beyond the arc. One of the reasons I had Taylor ranked higher than Harkless. Taylor is a better defender and a very good shooter. Harkless has better length than Taylor. I wouldn't take Harkless with the 5th pick. Now if we were to trade down, thats another story.
Which would make perfect sense for us after we trade the #5 for Dalembert and the #14. 
As an aside, I know about Moe's Gerald Wallace light offensive game, but how's his defense?
As an aside, I know about Moe's Gerald Wallace light offensive game, but how's his defense?
Per Jason Jones twitter, Moultrie injured his ankle at the Kings workout. It happened early in the workout which sucks, and no word on how bad it is.
Here are some other tweets of interest:
Couple other tweets about thinking we'll take MKG if he falls to 5, and not trading 'Reke, but they are just his personal opinions and thus not worth tweeting. Most of us here are probably more clued in.
Here are some other tweets of interest:
Couple other tweets about thinking we'll take MKG if he falls to 5, and not trading 'Reke, but they are just his personal opinions and thus not worth tweeting. Most of us here are probably more clued in.
Ok so i checked the ESPN.co.uk schedule here: http://tv.espn.co.uk/gb/espl/tv-schedule/#all
It doesn't seem as if there showing it this year here in the UK does any of my English friends on here know where I can watch it?
I believe it was discussed earlier in this tread but im a bit it late to the party
Thanks
It doesn't seem as if there showing it this year here in the UK does any of my English friends on here know where I can watch it?
I believe it was discussed earlier in this tread but im a bit it late to the party
Thanks
Im Outta Here
Im shutting down like beal,barnes and mkg untill after the draft well maybe i will be back for a last minuet workout tommorow night... but im busy tommorow and friday before going out friday night so i will find out what our team has done untill the saterday morning
So be aware if im going through the same emotions on saterday you were on draft night....
heres to hoping the kings do good
See Y'all later
Im shutting down like beal,barnes and mkg untill after the draft
well maybe i will be back for a last minuet workout tommorow night... but im busy tommorow and friday before going out friday night so i will find out what our team has done untill the saterday morningSo be aware if im going through the same emotions on saterday you were on draft night....
heres to hoping the kings do good
See Y'all later
If Robinson is available with our pick then I take him.
Then I'd try to move one of our assets to get another mid-1st round pick as this is a deep draft for SFs, and if that doesn't work you have to see what you can do via trade/free-agency.
But I would not pass up on Robinson just because we need a SF. Of course, it's very possible that we'd see a trade for our pick if the top two SFs are off the board by pick #5.
Then I'd try to move one of our assets to get another mid-1st round pick as this is a deep draft for SFs, and if that doesn't work you have to see what you can do via trade/free-agency.
But I would not pass up on Robinson just because we need a SF. Of course, it's very possible that we'd see a trade for our pick if the top two SFs are off the board by pick #5.
He's more athletic than JT. Like JT, he already has a nice skill set, but it needs refinement. With a lack of depth in our front court, he would be a nice addition. By no means am I suggesting he be a replacement for JT, but an addition. I think because of his added athleticism, and rapid improvement, he has a higher ceiling than JT did at the same time in his career.