Casspi plans on being the starter: Sam Amick

rainmaker

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#31
you heavn't understood what i wrote, IN MY OPPINION that's what going to happen EVENTUALLY, ok? if you read my post he was commenting on you would get it by reading the words "i think".

but also, just to note your logic quest, i don't think that's logical either to put a selfish "me first" troublemaker stigma on a player because you think he would react in a certain way to not getting the starting SF position, and that's what i'm trying to explain.
Do you understand when and where to use capital letters? English is my gf's third language and she has a better understanding of puncuation than you.
 
#34
I have Omri pegged as one of sixteen breakout candidates next year in terms of taking his game to the next level. As an NBA-talent, he's definitely legitimate, is a top 20 SF already, and he was operating at a starter-type level for us last year, even despite the late season slide. And he's only 22. Decent offensive player already, but I think he's a very underrated defensive player who can D up both ways, which really helps the cause. Of course the "attitude" issues remain--he's a very confident player to the point of cockiness and even pre-draft was said to have temper issues, so there can be a Fernandez-like situation with him if he feels dissatisfied in any way. Personally I do think he has the talent to back it up as well, but Donte Greene is the X-factor here--summer league wunderkind he may be, and while he flashed a lot of potential particularly early this season he also went through a slide late that was worse than Omri's. His physical profile, deflection-style defense and budding triple threat skills can generate a trajectory similar to Andray Blatche if he gets free rein, but if he's splitting minutes it's hard to see him fully growing into his potential. I thought he ended up a solid role player by the end as opposed to certified underrated player, so I'm more confident with giving Omri minutes as of now. But what we should avoid is minute-splitting--it happened last season and while we discovered just how good both can be, if it happens next season Omri can become dissatisfied with the stagnant minutes and Donte won't grow as a SF. So there could be a dilemma there...
 

kingsboi

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#35
I have Omri pegged as one of sixteen breakout candidates next year in terms of taking his game to the next level. As an NBA-talent, he's definitely legitimate, is a top 20 SF already, and he was operating at a starter-type level for us last year, even despite the late season slide. And he's only 22. Decent offensive player already, but I think he's a very underrated defensive player who can D up both ways, which really helps the cause. Of course the "attitude" issues remain--he's a very confident player to the point of cockiness and even pre-draft was said to have temper issues, so there can be a Fernandez-like situation with him if he feels dissatisfied in any way. Personally I do think he has the talent to back it up as well, but Donte Greene is the X-factor here--summer league wunderkind he may be, and while he flashed a lot of potential particularly early this season he also went through a slide late that was worse than Omri's. His physical profile, deflection-style defense and budding triple threat skills can generate a trajectory similar to Andray Blatche if he gets free rein, but if he's splitting minutes it's hard to see him fully growing into his potential. I thought he ended up a solid role player by the end as opposed to certified underrated player, so I'm more confident with giving Omri minutes as of now. But what we should avoid is minute-splitting--it happened last season and while we discovered just how good both can be, if it happens next season Omri can become dissatisfied with the stagnant minutes and Donte won't grow as a SF. So there could be a dilemma there...
Only problem with that is, Andray Blatche replayed a vet in Antawn Jamison. No way Casspi will replace Donte, because Donte has all the tools to be a very good player. Casspi shows signs as well, don't get me wrong. But, being that they both are so inconsistent, you don't know how to look at it, one game you will get a good Donte, bad Casspi. Then vice versa, so overall Casspi needs to just play his role, hustle, play defense, shoot open 3's. Let's see this season if he improved in any fascets of his game as well as Donte.
 

VF21

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#36
its not what the reporter said. Its the FACT that he had a confrontation with Westphal about his role and playing time. That is the red flag here not the reporteres opinion. I would assume upon hearing of the confrontation that most people would form the same opinion.
You use the word "confrontation" as though it was almost fisticuffs. Coaches and players disagree at times; they talk and they get over it. I'm just not in a hurry to label Casspi or anyone else for that matter as a "red flag." People sometimes look way too hard for reasons to point fingers at this player or that. And print reporters are absolutely some of the worst.

I'm looking forward to the season and seeing all our young Kings as they start on a journey that will hopefully give every single Kings fan reason to rejoice.

GO KINGS!
 
#37
I think you people got it wrong with the Donte thing, as you remember PW is an unorthodox coach, he let the hot hands play mostly and Donte played along side Omri a lot of games last season ... anyway, it sounds cocky that Casspi said: "I'm gonna be a starter, you gonna see" etc... in Israel you don't see a lot of players talk like this, if any, but as I followed NBA articles I got the feeling that this is the way NBA players talk, those guys have big egos and maybe that's part of the reason they so good. it reminds me that Chris Bosh said to a reporter that everyone want him to join another star like Wade/Lebron/Carmelo etc... and he thinks that the Raptors should built a championship team around Chris Bosh instead... we all know what eventually happens lol...
 

bajaden

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#39
I think you people got it wrong with the Donte thing, as you remember PW is an unorthodox coach, he let the hot hands play mostly and Donte played along side Omri a lot of games last season ... anyway, it sounds cocky that Casspi said: "I'm gonna be a starter, you gonna see" etc... in Israel you don't see a lot of players talk like this, if any, but as I followed NBA articles I got the feeling that this is the way NBA players talk, those guys have big egos and maybe that's part of the reason they so good. it reminds me that Chris Bosh said to a reporter that everyone want him to join another star like Wade/Lebron/Carmelo etc... and he thinks that the Raptors should built a championship team around Chris Bosh instead... we all know what eventually happens lol...
OK, a couple of things, and not all related to your post. However, if you go back and read the article you'll notice that Casspi implies that he's going to prove to Westphal that he deserves to be the starter. That means he intends to earn it, not just have it given to him because he wants it. And I have no problem with that. Thats intirely different than saying he expects to be the starter simply because he's Omri Casspi. Now we can argue over the mentality behind his statement all we want. But personally I'd rather have a player like Casspi that wants to prove something to the league and is willing to walk the walk to do it, than someone like Jerome James that just wants to sit on the bench, collect his paycheck, and eat doughnuts.

I fail to understand why people always look for the negatives, in what should be a positive statement. Yeah, Casspi has some attitude and is a little cocky. Do you think Larry Bird didn't have attitude. I can't think of one good player in any sport that didn't have the desire to be the best. And with that desire comes attitude. Different players express it in different ways, but trust me, its there. So I'm fine with Casspi's statement. Bottom line, is that he still has to back it up with performance. And if he does, so much the better. I don't have any favorites here. If its Greene that rises to the top, great. If its Casspi, great. If they push each other to be as good as they can be, its a win/win for them and the team. And if one loses the battle and wants to grumble about it. Well all I can say is, Dude, you had your chance and you failed. Try again next year.
 

rainmaker

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#40
Whatever. I'm not the only one here who thinks it's rediculous not to take the time to capitalize letters correctly or use periods when needed. If english is someone's 2nd or 3rd langauge thats fine, and misspellingwords is completely understandable. Now, if english is your 1st language, than not using proper punctuation, or coming close, is just being lazy, and lame as you would put it. These aren't text messages here. I have the utmost respect for anyone trying to communicate in a language which isn't native to them. In return, it's not too much to ask that native english speakers make an effort to use correct puncuation. I couldn't care less whether or not you agree with me.
 
#41
Whatever. I'm not the only one here who thinks it's rediculous not to take the time to capitalize letters correctly or use periods when needed. If english is someone's 2nd or 3rd langauge thats fine, and misspellingwords is completely understandable. Now, if english is your 1st language, than not using proper punctuation, or coming close, is just being lazy, and lame as you would put it. These aren't text messages here. I have the utmost respect for anyone trying to communicate in a language which isn't native to them. In return, it's not too much to ask that native english speakers make an effort to use correct puncuation. I couldn't care less whether or not you agree with me.
And you're sure the person in question is a native English speaker and writer? I don't know and I prefer not to assume.
 
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#42
And you're sure the person in question is a native English speaker and writer? I don't know and I prefer not to assume.
Well, honestly, I don't think whether or not they are a native english speaker matters too much. Based on what they are typing it's clear they are capable of correct capitalization and punctuation. Capitalization and punctuation are pretty basic to all western languages.

It is a laziness not to do such things. but sometimes im lazy too so there. Capitalization and punctuation aren't just there so your high school english teacher has something to yell at you for. They go a long way to helping the reader with what you are trying to say. So I say, get off your lazy *** and punctuate and capitalize. uNlEsS yOu WaNt To Go AlL gAnGsTa HeE hEe HeE :cool:
 
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bajaden

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#43
Well, honestly, I don't think whether or not they are a native english speaker matters too much. Based on what they are typing it's clear they are capable of correct capitalization and punctuation. Capitalization and punctuation are pretty basic to all western languages.

It is a laziness not to do such things. but sometimes im lazy too so there. Capitalization and punctuation aren't just there so your high school english teacher has something to yell at you for. They go a long way to helping the reader with what you are trying to say. So I say, get off your lazy *** and punctuate and capitalize. uNlEsS yOu WaNt To Go AlL gAnGsTa HeE hEe HeE :cool:
I have a friend thats an engineer who can't spell a lick. And I mean a lick. I will admit to looking up a lot of words when I post to make sure the spelling is correct. But then I'm retired and have nothing better to do. As a result, I don't get too concerned with bad spelling. I don't think anyone would accuse Bricky of being stupid, and at times his spelling leaves something to be desired. Sorry Bricky! My point is that sometimes people don't have a lot of time to devote to what they post. I'm guilty of that myself at times.

Thats a different issue than capitalizing words for emphasis. Thats done with purpose and not by accident. I'll sometimes do it myself when trying to make an orginal point. But I try not to do it in rebuttal. The reason being, that it implies that the other person is incapable of understanding what your saying without you hitting him over the head with it. It easily comes accross as condesending if used improperly. So I'm not a big fan of doing it. But when if comes to spelling and other grammer related issues, well, let he who is without sin, cast the first stone...
 
#44
I have a friend thats an engineer who can't spell a lick. And I mean a lick. I will admit to looking up a lot of words when I post to make sure the spelling is correct. But then I'm retired and have nothing better to do. As a result, I don't get too concerned with bad spelling. I don't think anyone would accuse Bricky of being stupid, and at times his spelling leaves something to be desired. Sorry Bricky! My point is that sometimes people don't have a lot of time to devote to what they post. I'm guilty of that myself at times.

Thats a different issue than capitalizing words for emphasis. Thats done with purpose and not by accident. I'll sometimes do it myself when trying to make an orginal point. But I try not to do it in rebuttal. The reason being, that it implies that the other person is incapable of understanding what your saying without you hitting him over the head with it. It easily comes accross as condesending if used improperly. So I'm not a big fan of doing it. But when if comes to spelling and other grammer related issues, well, let he who is without sin, cast the first stone...
Oh you gonna get all biblical on me now. Speaking of biblical grammar, man the bible needs to take an english class... have you noticed how many run on sentences there are in that thing? Seriously.

Really though I could care less about spelling. It's more the courtesy of the visual impact and ease of reading that capitalization and punctuation help with. It's just common courtesy really.
 
#45
I can spell quite well, although I have to look up words now on occassion, that I used to have down cold. On the other hand., I'm a seriously bad typist. :p

I like proper grammar and punctuation, too, precisly because it clarifies meaning. I abhor the lack of commas today, which really impacts meaning. I just don't get too worked up over it online. If we're talking about courtesy, it's also common courtesy to not correct other people's grammatical or spelling errors. (or typos ;))
 

Capt. Factorial

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#46
Whatever. I'm not the only one here who thinks it's rediculous not to take the time to capitalize letters correctly or use periods when needed. If english is someone's 2nd or 3rd langauge thats fine, and misspellingwords is completely understandable. Now, if english is your 1st language, than not using proper punctuation, or coming close, is just being lazy, and lame as you would put it. These aren't text messages here. I have the utmost respect for anyone trying to communicate in a language which isn't native to them. In return, it's not too much to ask that native english speakers make an effort to use correct puncuation. I couldn't care less whether or not you agree with me.
I agree with you completely.
 
#47
Whatever. I'm not the only one here who thinks it's rediculous not to take the time to capitalize letters correctly or use periods when needed. If english is someone's 2nd or 3rd langauge thats fine, and misspellingwords is completely understandable. Now, if english is your 1st language, than not using proper punctuation, or coming close, is just being lazy, and lame as you would put it. These aren't text messages here. I have the utmost respect for anyone trying to communicate in a language which isn't native to them. In return, it's not too much to ask that native english speakers make an effort to use correct puncuation. I couldn't care less whether or not you agree with me.
So you insult someone without even checking first? I'm Israeli, and I'm sure my second language punctuation is better than your 2nd one(if you know a 2nd one..).

By the way, if you are so concerned about readers benefit, i would suggest using the enter key once in a while, also, while replying to your post, look at how my Firefox's spell checker highlighted your post, so please check yourself before commenting on other people:

 
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#51
Yea, well, Sometimes it's smarter to put out the burning match before it causes a fire:rolleyes:



Getting back on the already chewed up topic, i don't really care who will start, i think eventually it would be Casspi, but it doesn't really matter, i just hope he will show some good performance on a stable basis, also, after watching almost all of the Kings games last season, i also really hope we'll see much more wins this year...and no, Denver doesn't count..:p
 

CruzDude

Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
#52
Er, ummm, ahhh...... What WAS this thread all about? Casspi or nit piking typing/grammer? It's the thought and expression that counts not nit picky details about grammer or punctuation or what ever. Such musings can only insult our international Kings Fans who neither speak nor write much in english. For me it is the thoughts and ideas that matter with regards to our Kings no matter from whom they come or how correctly they are published. I think Casspi will be our starting SF for now and for a bunch of years to come all the way up the ladder.

Remember our down thoughts on the unknown Peja in the mid-90's. He turned out pretty well. Casspi will be another level up with his defensive skills. Hooo Rah!!
 

Capt. Factorial

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#54
English is my second language.
Maybe I can simply post and let someone add the punctuation for me?
Any assistance? 50 cent per post.
Let's see...406 posts since December 2009. That would come up to about $300 a year. Not a bad gig if you can get it!
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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#59
One of my oldest and dearest friends routinely spells her own name wrong, both in emails and in written correspondence; I keep telling her that she should just have it legally changed, and save herself some trouble.
 
#60
Maybe it's just the grammar OCD in me, but it drives me crazy that so many people get the their, there, they're, there's, theirs, your, and you're wrong!