Tyreke Evans ROTY & 20/5/5 Watch

i'm just thinking from a non homer point of view, Curry will be the best player from this rookie class five years from now. Not something you probably want to hear but that's how i feel. Oh and i don't care too much about individual awards, gimme a winning team and a championship instead. If there was a draft redo, i'd probably take Curry who makes his team better than Evans does.
Is that why the Warriors have a worst record this year than last?
 
i'm just thinking from a non homer point of view, Curry will be the best player from this rookie class five years from now. Not something you probably want to hear but that's how i feel. Oh and i don't care too much about individual awards, gimme a winning team and a championship instead. If there was a draft redo, i'd probably take Curry who makes his team better than Evans does.

Thank god you aren't the gm.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
i'm just thinking from a non homer point of view, Curry will be the best player from this rookie class five years from now. Not something you probably want to hear but that's how i feel. Oh and i don't care too much about individual awards, gimme a winning team and a championship instead. If there was a draft redo, i'd probably take Curry who makes his team better than Evans does.

Want to put some money on that?

Actually I don't bet -- its too bad in this case. But what I do do is watch a lot of basketball, and have for the better part of 30 years now, and I am here to tell you that you are 100% completely wrong in your assumption. Stephen Curry is cute. Nice little player. Tyreke Evans has the game and build of the megastars. Shooting is the single least important trait in basketball at the star level. It means absolutely nothing on the star scale to have it entering the league. The stars are physically dominant, dominate play inside the paint, do everything well. In short play like Tyreke Evans. And he was 20. 5 years from now he could easily be the second best player in the entire league. He's that special a talent. And then he's got a work ethic and his head screwed on straight to boot. Watch this if you have not seen it before, and from your comment I would assume you have not --this is how a Jerry Rice or a Kobe Bryant feels when they are young. Dominant, and determined to be more dominant still.
 
i'm just thinking from a non homer point of view, Curry will be the best player from this rookie class five years from now. Not something you probably want to hear but that's how i feel. Oh and i don't care too much about individual awards, gimme a winning team and a championship instead. If there was a draft redo, i'd probably take Curry who makes his team better than Evans does.
So you don't care about individual awards huh. But here you are talking about how Curry is going to win the rookie of the year. Riiiight.

Curry makes his team better? Ok. :rolleyes: The Warriors have won 4 less games than last season so far, while the Kings have improved 7 games.
 
While watching the Clippers/Mavs game tonight Clippers' announcer Ralph Lawlor mentioned he is going to vote for Curry. His side-kick Mike Smith said his vote would also go to Curry. I'm not sure if Smith has a voting 'credential' though.
 
i'm just thinking from a non homer point of view, Curry will be the best player from this rookie class five years from now. Not something you probably want to hear but that's how i feel. Oh and i don't care too much about individual awards, gimme a winning team and a championship instead. If there was a draft redo, i'd probably take Curry who makes his team better than Evans does.

It's not a homer thing. Just watch how the players get their shots. It's not hard for Tyreke to add an outside shot to his game. He already averages 20+ just with driving to the basket. The opponents best defenders are always put on him. Now imagine how hard it's going to be for Curry to add the muscle and size to go inside and take a beating. And lets not even discuss defense because Tyreke wins hands down there.
 
Mashburn is a moron.
I agree. I have never agreed with ANYTHING the man has said. If he did not play NBA basketball, I would say that he never watched a game in his entire life. The award is "Rookie of the Year" an individual award. To give it to Jennings because his team has won more games is just stupid.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
While watching the Clippers/Mavs game tonight Clippers' announcer Ralph Lawlor mentioned he is going to vote for Curry. His side-kick Mike Smith said his vote would also go to Curry. I'm not sure if Smith has a voting 'credential' though.

Yes, I was going to mention that a couple fo days ago -- they more or less intimated that in the Clippers/Warriors game. Which is fine -- given their ability to assess talent I don't want any Clippers votes anyway. :p
 
i'm just thinking from a non homer point of view, Curry will be the best player from this rookie class five years from now. Not something you probably want to hear but that's how i feel. Oh and i don't care too much about individual awards, gimme a winning team and a championship instead. If there was a draft redo, i'd probably take Curry who makes his team better than Evans does.
Thank you, you answered my question. You are a crack head. No offense meant, by the way. Just my non-homer point of view.
 
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Kingsguy881

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i'm just thinking from a non homer point of view, Curry will be the best player from this rookie class five years from now. Not something you probably want to hear but that's how i feel. Oh and i don't care too much about individual awards, gimme a winning team and a championship instead. If there was a draft redo, i'd probably take Curry who makes his team better than Evans does.
How? With all due respect, your point of view is plain ignorant. Curry is at almost his peak as a player, 3 years older than Tyreke and offensively more polished. He has almost no upside given that he has nothing to work on about his game. Tyreke has a lot to work on about his game, and he is already as good but more than likely better than Curry, offensively anyways. Defensively it is no contest. When Tyreke puts his mind to it, he shuts you down. Curry can't boast that same ability. Sorry, but if you believe that, then you are either a moron or a Warriors fan. I hope to God you are a Warriors fan.
 
After attending that game I have come to realize how much more special 20/5/5 is than ROY - I really don't give a **** if Evans wins ROY anymore. If hack sports writers want to vote for someone else out of spite, then let their ignorance shine right on through.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
Sweet Jebus. You are the dumbest poster on this forum. Quite an achievement.
Actually, I think that distinction gos to the guy who said Curry is a far better player than Reke and deserved the RoY then promptly said awards don't mean anything despite the fact that's not what he said in the first post.:cool:
 
When it's too close to call either way usually the fan takes his guy... Obviously you are not a fan, or you are way off in thinking Curry is that much better than Evans which he is not. He might be a better scorer but Evans has him in pretty much every other category.
The thing is though, its not a close call. Evans is noticeably better than Curry. Curry running up and down the floor all night shooting the ball with 15 seconds left on the shot clock in Nelsons small ball embarrassment to basketball system, or Tyreke taking it to the hoop against every team in the league whos only game plan is to stop him from getting to the hoop. The guy averaged more points than Curry and he doesnt even have a jumper. Evans is LIGHTYEARS ahead of Curry on the defensive end. Curry is an allstar level talent, sure. Evans is a SUPERSTAR level talent. Stephen Curry cant see Tyreke Evans with a telescope.
 
Tim Legler just said he's voting for Reke and Jamal Masburn picked Jennings...WTF?
And heres our problem, theres way to many nutters out there and its way too controversial in what should be a done and dusted affair. I mean it shouldnt even be debated yet everywhere you turn theres more pundits sitting on the fence or already against us.

I wont be suprised if evans doesnt get ROY, its got nuthing to do with us being kings fans but everything to do with how controversy sells and how Currys sleek up and down style of play fitting an already attractive system comes across.
 
In his rookie year, Tyreke has done something that only Oscar Roberston, Lebron James, and Michael Jordan (all three are all time greats, with MJ being the greatest and Lebron having the opportunity to become as great) have done in their rookie years and that is to play an over-all game by averaging 20-5-5, and good defense to boot.

He's done it for the WHOLE YEAR.

If Reke doesn't win Rookie of the Year, the NBA has screwed this franchise AGAIN.
 
I truly hope that Reke wins the ROY.

But I do not think he should win because the 20/5/5 alone. It's the intangibles that should favor Reke.

Most are arguing that 20/5/5 should bring ROY home. After all, only OR, MJ and LJ did this before, right?

Well, Curry has 5 (please correct me) 30 points 10 assist games. This was only done by (gulp) 2 other players before. OR and MJ. And he broke the rookie record in 3 pointers made (with sick percentage of shots made).

So based on the tangibles, Curry could, deservingly, receive votes for ROI.

That being said, basketball is much more than numbers. Reke dominates the game, Reke posts guys like Williams, Billups. Reke is defended by Arizas, Kobes, Sefoloshas, Battiers, LJ... Curry is not.

I would make it obligatory that everyone who votes should watch at least 5 whole games before being eligible for voting.

And whoever votes for Jennings (btw, he is a great player) is a certified *******.

My 5 cents...

 
I truly hope that Reke wins the ROY.

But I do not think he should win because the 20/5/5 alone. It's the intangibles that should favor Reke.

Most are arguing that 20/5/5 should bring ROY home. After all, only OR, MJ and LJ did this before, right?

Well, Curry has 5 (please correct me) 30 points 10 assist games. This was only done by (gulp) 2 other players before. OR and MJ. And he broke the rookie record in 3 pointers made (with sick percentage of shots made).

So based on the tangibles, Curry could, deservingly, receive votes for ROI.

That being said, basketball is much more than numbers. Reke dominates the game, Reke posts guys like Williams, Billups. Reke is defended by Arizas, Kobes, Sefoloshas, Battiers, LJ... Curry is not.

I would make it obligatory that everyone who votes should watch at least 5 whole games before being eligible for voting.

And whoever votes for Jennings (btw, he is a great player) is a certified *******.

My 5 cents...

I'm not gonna lie, that's impressive company for Curry. But Reke's accomplishment is far more impressive. Why? Because Curry's accomplishments deal with GAMES, not averages like Reke's. Curry had 30 n 10 5 times n yet Evans still has better numbers than him
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I'm not gonna lie, that's impressive company for Curry. But Reke's accomplishment is far more impressive. Why? Because Curry's accomplishments deal with GAMES, not averages like Reke's. Curry had 30 n 10 5 times n yet Evans still has better numbers than him

1) a note about the significance of the rookie three pointers record. The previous holder was Rudy Frenandez, who set the mark last year. I like Rudy's game, but Oscar/MJ/LeBron he's not.

2) Curry has had a handful of spectacular statistical games. But you know what it means when you have 5 30-10 games and and still average 17 and 6 on the season? It means that you have had a whole hell of a lot of 12 and 4 games to with them.


But we know this. And the minority of the media with triple digit IQs know this too. Curry has done some nice things this year and in a weak year for rookie of the year he would be a real candidate (even last year I think he would have been a real threat to Rose, and arguably has had a better year than Rose had, although Rose would have had both the Jennings winning team thing and the non-garbageball stat inflation factors weighing for him). But in a historic year there's no way he should do anything more than distantly trail. While there is some wishy washiness, the national media at this point seem to be getting it right and going with Reke by a safe majority. But once all the local guys weigh in, you just don't know. I listen to many of them on league pass -- half of them are too stupid to open a child proof lids and you have to figure whoever happened to have the biggest game against their particular team is going to weigh heavily. With those guys you just have to trust that Grant/Jerry are right and not just doing their normal used car salesman hype thing when they say most of them are going to vote Reke.