Official Draft Day Discussion - NO SPOILERS ALLOWED

[Merdiesel]

Mixed feelings.
On one hand, Mudiay could end up being a star.
On the other hand, WCS is possibly the key to Cousins staying.

Ehh, I hate draft night. My heart can't take this **** anymore.

 

[Double-K]

I didn't say rebounding specialist. He's a mediocre rebounder who is a defensive specialist

We got Cousins for major rebounding. He is our great outlet passer anyway. There is only one ball to rebounding from at any time in a game.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

WOW that's the worst player comp I've ever seen- Kaminsky to Anderson... that's just ridiculous, at least Bill is entartaining.

Yeah, if you want to compare a player in this draft to Anderson, I think it's Dekker.

 

[Double-K]

On the other hand, WCS is possibly the key to Cousins staying.

This is another key, besides WCS being an elite defender.

 

[dude12]

Look, this is all I'm going to say about the pick and then I'll let the majority of you go one celebrating. The only picks I hated more than this one were Jimmer and Spencer Hawes. I hated those picks and people here jumped all over me to say how wrong I was. As it turned out, those were both terrible picks after all. I'm already on record about this but I'll say it again: Emmanuel Mudiay and Stanley Johnson are the two best players in the draft. We just passed on both of them. Cauley-Stein will be decent for us but a DPOY he is not. He's not going to single-handidly fix our defense, and in four years we're still going to be talking about how we can fix the PF position while Mudiay and Johnson are winning awards on other teams.

This is the one draft we couldn't afford to blow and we just blew it. Heaven help us.

I wanted Mudiay but I was under no illusions that the kid would be winning awards. I think WCS has a chance for a long Tyson Chandler like career....he's had significant impact. It's possible that Mudiay AND WCS will be impactful. Notice I didn't put Johnson in there.

 

[steelevt]

He's a role player either way. A good fit next to Cuz, likely very good but a role player nonetheless, just as Chandler, Ibaka and Jordan are.

id be perfectly happy if he ends up as good as chandler ibaka or jordan

 

[Dime Dropper]

It's pretty sad that people can only look at stats. I guarantee that WCS will be a good rebounder in the NBA.

Context, people. Not only did WCS spend much of his time out on the perimeter, he was also playing next to multiple great rebounders throughout his three years at Kentucky. But no, let's look at his stats, ignore all context, and call him a bad rebounder.

 

[Amit149]

Miami just got the steal of the draft (I know I've already said that) he is like Stanley Johnson- only good.

 

[ovrush]

He's a role player either way. A good fit next to Cuz, likely very good but a role player nonetheless, just as Chandler, Ibaka and Jordan are.

and Chandler, Ibaka, and Jordan are all guys team trying to win titles scramble to get.

Plus, we now have a guy with the potential to do that before we even consider that every now and then players develop additional skills. What if he's like those guys but develops a really great 15-20 foot shot?

 

[Henkel]

Great fit for Winslow.

 

[jcwkings]

We are gonna get butchered by draft graders. If all goes well we will be a defensive juggernaut, with Cousins developing into a top 10 rim protector last season, and adding WCS who will help on the pick and roll and being that free safety defender.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

How in the world is Winslow still slipping??

teams believe some other players are more valuable?

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I'm saying y'all told me I was full of it before and you were wrong. I don't think I'm wrong this time either.

Hawes wasn't a bad pick; go back and look at that draft again. It turns out that he's a stain of human being, but that's not the same thing.

 

[Merdiesel]

This also puts JT in his natural position... First big man off the bench.

The more I think about it the more I like it.

 

[hrdboild]

your argument included people being happy over hawes. that was not the case. most people were bummed over missing noah. i dont remember anyone celebrating hawes. maybe a few saying at least we got a big

A lot of people wanted Noah (myself included). But most people said Hawes was the best player on the board and a decent pick at that position. He had talent, I don't deny that. I didn't want him on the team because I hated his attitude. Nothing I've seen since has made me change my mind.

 

[PurpleHaze]

Winslow has no particular weakness and lot of open court skill. I bet he has very good career as a dynamic SF. The new D-Wade - well not quite that good.

 

[Bricklayer]

It's pretty sad that people can only look at stats. I guarantee that WCS will be a good rebounder in the NBA.

Context, people. Not only did WCS spend much of his time out on the perimeter, he was also playing next to multiple great rebounders throughout his three years at Kentucky. But no, let's look at his stats, ignore all context, and call him a bad rebounder.

That rarely happens. Rebounding is one of those things that has a tendency to translate.

And he's going to be playing next to another pretty good rebounder again. Maybe 2 if Reggie comes back.

 

[Mass]

He's a role player either way. A good fit next to Cuz, likely very good but a role player nonetheless, just as Chandler, Ibaka and Jordan are.

And you think Ibaka, Chadler and Jordan are a bad ceiling for a 6th pick? Actually I'm preying WCS turns out to be like those guys...

 

[The_Jamal]

Utah listening to offers for 12. Do you flip Stauskas for it?

 

[The Hammer]

I think this whole thing is moot if karl and DMC can't work things out. If cousins ends up leaving this pick is going to really hurt us. Karl is the huge wildcard.

Don't underestimate the power of Vlade. A) To help them work it out and be adults. or B) To fire Karl if needed.

There is absolutely no way in hell that Vlade trades the greatest center of this young century and future Hall of Famer for a three year rental on an egomaniacal coach, no matter how good that coach is. That is beyond stupid. Great centers, great players, are infinitely harder to come by than great coaches, who you can simply hire.

If it absolutely can't work between them. BYE BYE Karl. That is all. Surely you trust Vlade to understand that right?

 

[PurpleHaze]

Utah listening to offers for 12. Do you flip Stauskas for it?

Sure and draft Dekker.

 

[Henkel]

Utah listening to offers for 12. Do you flip Stauskas for it?

If they're foolish enough to do it.

 

[Amit149]

Nice pick, the Pacers will turn him to a great player.

 

[hrdboild]

Great picks for Miami and Indiana. The rich get richer.

 

[The Hammer]

Utah listening to offers for 12. Do you flip Stauskas for it?

Oh hell yes you do.

 

[Amit149]

Utah listening to offers for 12. Do you flip Stauskas for it?

Where do I sign?

 

[Mass]

Utah listening to offers for 12. Do you flip Stauskas for it?

Yes. And I go get Payne.

 

[The_Jamal]

Great picks for Miami and Indiana. The rich get richer.

I was with you on Johnson, but can't defend this Turner pick. Feels like a reach

 

[Kingster]

It's pretty sad that people can only look at stats. I guarantee that WCS will be a good rebounder in the NBA.

Context, people. Not only did WCS spend much of his time out on the perimeter, he was also playing next to multiple great rebounders throughout his three years at Kentucky. But no, let's look at his stats, ignore all context, and call him a bad rebounder.

So you think he's going to average a rebound every 3 minutes? What's good for you? He averaged one reb every 4 minutes each year he played in college.

 

[hrdboild]

I was with you on Johnson, but can't defend this Turner pick. Feels like a reach

He's a long way away no doubt, but I see a diamond in the rough there. I think this will be seen as another Paul George level steal for them eventually.