Malone fired

[Chubbs]

Maybe Vivek needs Mullin to coach... so he can try out his crazy schemes through him. Just Kidding, but you never know......with needing a style.

That's not a just kidding situation.

That's the absolute truth. Karl won't be a puppet. Mullin, well, the run and gun stuff is probably his idea so that won't be a problem.

 

[Sam0ah]

Welp....

Mitch Lawrence@Mitch_Lawrenceabout 42 minutes ago
Brooklyn Native Chris Mullin Expected to Be Named Sacramento Kings Next Coach: Sources | NBC New York nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Chr… via @nbcnewyork

Marc Stein@ESPNSteinLineabout 35 minutes ago
And there are likewise league insiders who believe Ranadive's relationship w/Mullin might be strong enough to convince him to make leap now


Mitch Lawrence@Mitch_Lawrenceabout 42 minutes ago
Now preparing for his first head coaching job, with the Sacramento Kings, Chris Mullin wants to take a page from... http://fb.me/4qhymfFI1

Oh H*** NO

 

[kupman]

I will go out on a limb here and say that I am giving this thing a chance before getting critical of owner and FO. They do not want to be just good or respectable. They want to be great and are willing to roll the dice aggressively and are willing to do so early. They feel that they can do better than Malone so why prolong the relationship?

There is a chance that this move could be their best move yet and that is really saying something given all that they have accomplished in their short time here. I am just going to watch this thing unfold for awhile.

 

[lawlman91]

Mullin has never been a legitimate candidate for Coaching. They are just spinning it this way so that everyone will be satisfied with George Karl coming in. Ranadive is a businessman -- remember that.

 

[chasen4r1]

Welp....

Mitch Lawrence@Mitch_Lawrenceabout 42 minutes ago
Brooklyn Native Chris Mullin Expected to Be Named Sacramento Kings Next Coach: Sources | NBC New York nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Chr… via @nbcnewyork

Marc Stein@ESPNSteinLineabout 35 minutes ago
And there are likewise league insiders who believe Ranadive's relationship w/Mullin might be strong enough to convince him to make leap now


Mitch Lawrence@Mitch_Lawrenceabout 42 minutes ago
Now preparing for his first head coaching job, with the Sacramento Kings, Chris Mullin wants to take a page from... http://fb.me/4qhymfFI1

No no no......

How credible is Mitch Lawrence? Is he just guessing here or does he have credible sources?

 

[chasen4r1]

I will go out on a limb here and say that I am giving this thing a chance before getting critical of owner and FO. They do not want to be just good or respectable. They want to be great and are willing to roll the dice aggressively and are willing to do so early. They feel that they can do better than Malone so why prolong the relationship?

There is a chance that this move could be their best move yet and that is really saying something given all that they have accomplished in their short time here. I am just going to watch this thing unfold for awhile.

Well, i'd gladly eat crow if we are winning and i'm proven wrong. But so far.. hard to see it go that way.

 

[Larry89]

Why does this always happen to us? We had a growing identity of hard nosed rebounding and inside play, tough defense with Cousins. Now we're going to play ****ing Nellie Ball?

 

[Rockmeister]

Mullin has never been a legitimate candidate for Coaching. They are just spinning it this way so that everyone will be satisfied with George Karl coming in. Ranadive is a businessman -- remember that.

Damn, I sure hope you are right.

 

[Gilles]

I will go out on a limb here and say that I am giving this thing a chance before getting critical of owner and FO. They do not want to be just good or respectable. They want to be great and are willing to roll the dice aggressively and are willing to do so early. They feel that they can do better than Malone so why prolong the relationship?

There is a chance that this move could be their best move yet and that is really saying something given all that they have accomplished in their short time here. I am just going to watch this thing unfold for awhile.

Have you missed the fact that Vivek and Co don't care about being good, respectable or great. They want to be flashy and stylish.

 

[kingjatt]

No no no......

How credible is Mitch Lawrence? Is he just guessing here or does he have credible sources?

No clue but he is based out of Mullin's hometown.

 

[funkykingston]

Golden State made the playoffs once in the last two decades prior to the last couple seasons.
I'm tired of hearing about this team as if they're the model franchise. You throw **** against the wall for 20 years eventually something will stick.

Two things about Golden State. (1) They've accumulated stars and role players through the draft
Curry and Thompson were both first round picks and are all-star level players with Curry a legit MVP candidate, Udoh was part of the Bogut trade,Ezeli, and Barnes are solid roleplayers and Green is an ultimate glue guy and an absolute gem of a pick in the 2nd round And that's with them losing their 2013 1st rounder due to the terrible 2008 Marcus Williams trade and not having a 2014 pick because they used it to land Iguodala.

Over that same time period the Kings have drafted:
Tyreke (gone)
Cousins (team foundation and IMO the best big man in the league)
Whiteside (gone)
Fredette (gone)
Thomas (gone)
Honeycutt (gone)
Robinson (gone)
Orlando Johnson (gone)
Ben McLemore (big improvement to become a 3&D wing)
Ray McCallum (3rd string PG)
Nik Stauskas (lost rookie struggling to find his way)

Really only two guys contributing from that list in Cousins and McLemore compared to all the guys playing huge roles for the Warriors

(2) The Warriors got good when they traded junk ball for a bigger, more traditional lineup.

They went from an undersized starting lineup of Monta Ellis and Steph Curry in the backcourt, Thompson at the SF and Udoh/Biedrens at center to a big lineup of Curry at PG, Thompson at SG, Dorell Wright at SF, Lee at PF and Bogut at C.

The Warriors didn't win with small, run-and-gun Nellie ball. They won when gave themselves more size at practically every position, improved their defense, rebounding and toughness and gave their best offensive players a supporting cast and a system that suited their strengths. Then they built on that foundation. Barnes, Ezeli, Green, Speights, Iguodala, Livingston, Barbosa.

They took heat for dumping the coach that brought them so much success but they did it at the right time - right after the season. And they brought in a guy that did exactly what they hoped when Kerr took them to the next level by replacing ISO offense with ball movement while continuing to get the most defensively out of a very offensively potent lineup.

DeMarcus isn't Curry. McLemore and Stauskas aren't Thompson. Mullin is not the same as Kerr. 24 games into the season is not the same as the beginning of May. Sacramento is not Golden State.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

I have no idea who Mitch Lawrence is, but we'll see.

 

[New Era]

I feel like this is some sort of twisted, sick bad dream. Is this really happening??

 

[LPKingsFan]

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Chris-Mullin-Heading-to-Kings-Bench-to-Coach-285969251.html

Chris Mullin once played for Don Nelson, and now the Hall of Famer from Brooklyn wants to take a page from his former coach as he prepares to fill the Sacramento Kings’ head coaching vacancy.

 

[lawlman91]

Two things about Golden State. (1) They've accumulated stars and role players through the draft
Curry and Thompson were both first round picks and are all-star level players with Curry a legit MVP candidate, Udoh was part of the Bogut trade,Ezeli, and Barnes are solid roleplayers and Green is an ultimate glue guy and an absolute gem of a pick in the 2nd round And that's with them losing their 2013 1st rounder due to the terrible 2008 Marcus Williams trade and not having a 2014 pick because they used it to land Iguodala.

Over that same time period the Kings have drafted:
Tyreke (gone)
Cousins (team foundation and IMO the best big man in the league)
Whiteside (gone)
Fredette (gone)
Thomas (gone)
Honeycutt (gone)
Robinson (gone)
Orlando Johnson (gone)
Ben McLemore (big improvement to become a 3&D wing)
Ray McCallum (3rd string PG)
Nik Stauskas (lost rookie struggling to find his way)

Really only two guys contributing from that list in Cousins and McLemore compared to all the guys playing huge roles for the Warriors

(2) The Warriors got good when they traded junk ball for a bigger, more traditional lineup.

They went from an undersized starting lineup of Monta Ellis and Steph Curry in the backcourt, Thompson at the SF and Udoh/Biedrens at center to a big lineup of Curry at PG, Thompson at SG, Dorell Wright at SF, Lee at PF and Bogut at C.

The Warriors didn't win with small, run-and-gun Nellie ball. They won when gave themselves more size at practically every position, improved their defense, rebounding and toughness and gave their best offensive players a supporting cast and a system that suited their strengths. Then they built on that foundation. Barnes, Ezeli, Green, Speights, Iguodala, Livingston, Barbosa.

They took heat for dumping the coach that brought them so much success but they did it at the right time - right after the season. And they brought in a guy that did exactly what they hoped when Kerr took them to the next level by replacing ISO offense with ball movement while continuing to get the most defensively out of a very offensively potent lineup.

DeMarcus isn't Curry. McLemore and Stauskas aren't Thompson. Mullin is not the same as Kerr. 24 games into the season is not the same as the beginning of May. Sacramento is not Golden State.

The FO executies may be all-in for believing in the theory that good teams go through a "flashy phase" before becoming a really good team, e.g. Lob City, GSW's small lineup, Kings' Jason Williams era. However, it's perfectly reasonable to say that we were already headed in the right direction, even without a large amount of flash. We had some through the Ben/Rudy/Derrick fast breaks...

 

[Spike]

Mullin has never been a legitimate candidate for Coaching. They are just spinning it this way so that everyone will be satisfied with George Karl coming in. Ranadive is a businessman -- remember that.

Why spin? Even though the timing absolutely blows, and the way the situation was handled blows, bringing in Karl would be acknowledged as a step up.

 

[kingjatt]

Who knows if its legit or not but from the article:

“He wants to coach like Don Nelson,’’ a source told NBC 4 New York in confirming the move. “Chris wants to be unconventional in his approach. He’s not going to call a play on every possession.’’

 

[chasen4r1]

Who knows if its legit or not but from the article:

“He wants to coach like Don Nelson,’’ a source told NBC 4 New York in confirming the move. “Chris wants to be unconventional in his approach. He’s not going to call a play on every possession.’’

......uhh......

 

[Chubbs]

PDA and Vivek are really good at both: (1) making it pretty clear they don't know what they are doing; and (2) coming off like know it alls, who think they have figured everything out because they think outside the box and operate like a tech company.

After all the Maloof ineptitude, spin, and later lies and KHTK covering for them at ever turn, fans have a better ear for this and no patience for this.

This team better play close to .500 ball this year and next ... or it's going to get ugly around here ... yes, PDA, even with the shinny new arena.

.500?

It better be much more than that. What was out record with everyone healthy? 7-3? 8-2?

I expect nothing less than .750 ball. This team is oozing talent, right?

 

[Section 101]

I wonder how different that poll would look if it was Corbin vs. Mullin, not Mullin vs. the field.

Mullin is nobodies first choice, but he might be our only choice.

You need to follow closer. There were more questions, first was firing malone, then Karl as replacement. So far Karl is winning BIG.

 

[Chubbs]

I wonder how different that poll would look if it was Corbin vs. Mullin, not Mullin vs. the field.

Mullin is nobodies first choice, but he might be our only choice.

He's vivek's first choice.

Everything else is irrelevant.

 

[lawlman91]

Why spin? Even though the timing absolutely blows, and the way the situation was handled blows, bringing in Karl would be acknowledged as a step up.

Whether or not Karl is a step-up doesn't matter in the point I'm trying to make. It's about Ranadive's businessman-like practices, where he gives a choice between the bad (Mullin) and George Karl. It makes us like the selection of George Karl more than if Ranadive didn't present us with the Mullin option. It makes us forget about everything else so we can focus and discuss Mullin vs. Karl... but all along, we knew that Karl would win.

If this is true, it shows what Ranadive thinks about the intelligence of the fans.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Remember all that talk about Rudy Gay potentially playing power forward for the Kings when he was traded here? And then more rumblings after he played well at PF for team USA? Could be another 'request' from the front office that Malone completely ignored.

I could see the Kings starting Gay and Williams under Corbin. Or Gay and Casspi.

 

[hrdboild]

“He wants to coach like Don Nelson,’’ a source told NBC 4 New York in confirming the move. “Chris wants to be unconventional in his approach. He’s not going to call a play on every possession.’’

Welp, that happened.

 

[Chubbs]

I will go out on a limb here and say that I am giving this thing a chance before getting critical of owner and FO. They do not want to be just good or respectable. They want to be great and are willing to roll the dice aggressively and are willing to do so early. They feel that they can do better than Malone so why prolong the relationship?

There is a chance that this move could be their best move yet and that is really saying something given all that they have accomplished in their short time here. I am just going to watch this thing unfold for awhile.

They don't though.

They want to be entertaining. Exciting. A global brand. Winning is just a footnote to that.

 

[Chubbs]

Remember all that talk about Rudy Gay potentially playing power forward for the Kings when he was traded here? And then more rumblings after he played well at PF for team USA? Could be another 'request' from the front office that Malone completely ignored.

I could see the Kings starting Gay and Williams under Corbin. Or Gay and Casspi.

I'd be shocked if they don't. There was clearly pressure to play Williams over Casspi.

 

[rainmaker]

I am getting so sick and tired of coping everything that GS does. If I wanted to be a GS fan, then I would but I don't. However, if they keep at it, I might.

The dumbest part?

We're not even copying what has made GS successful of late. We're copying what they did a few years ago, with their hand me downs and failures. We're going after personnel they got rid of in order to take their next step forward.

GS cleaned house, hired Jerry West, traded Monta for a defensive center in Bogut, brought in a bunch of 3&D guys. That's not the direction we're going. We're following the blueprint which failed for them.

Our roster not only doesn't look anything like GS's but since Vivek/PDA took over, the gap has gotten bigger. We've moved away from what GS has done. What Vivek/PDA seem ignorant to is that Kerr made defense a ****ing focus for GS this year. They get lost in the sexy play of Steph apparently but their infantile basketball minds don't let them recognize defense is the basis of their improvement. Yes they're taking fewer bad shots on offense and are more efficient in the halfcourt, but defense has been the foundation of their turnaround. They're closing out games in halfcourt sets. It's not about running and gunning!

Our team is basically being run by a bunch of pimply-faced teenagers who just received NBA2K for their birthday. They haven't got a clue to what they're doing. They're digging a bigger hole by the minute and doubling down on their incompetence. The tone deafness is also shocking. For a GM who loves to speak for what our fanbase/city wants in a team, how the hell can he think with our history, that wins/losses are not important to us, and that we'll somehow get behind the style over wins/losses philosophy.

 

[Bricklayer]

No no no......

How credible is Mitch Lawrence? Is he just guessing here or does he have credible sources?

He's not. Not anymore at least.

Better to wait for a real announcement. Lawrence has long since gone full tabloid.

 

[Sam0ah]

The signing is of Casspi and his ability to run in the open court is starting to make much more sense. Malone having Casspi on the bench the last few games besides the injury might of been part of the last straw...

 

[Amit149]

The signing is of Casspi and his ability to run in the open court is starting to make much more sense. Malone having Casspi on the bench the last few games besides the injury might of been part of the last straw...

Casspi was a great pick-up but he thrived under Malone- he have an injury, of course we dont know a lot about it because our media is bullpoopoo but i find it hard to believe he just decided he wasnt good after giving him a lot of credit- it's either an injury, or FO intervention (FO telling him to showcase DWill or him standing up to FO for spite).