would you trade dally for bynum?

[Demarcus Cousins]

both make the same amount of money. 13 million{ dally 13.4, bynum 13.7}
bynum is younger and put dmc at pf and bynum at 5 omg beast frouncourt
id say do it.
yes we are trading with la but lakers are going to blow it up. bynum is 7'1 and dmc is 6'11 and still can grow beause hes only 20. then we have jt and whiteside 7'1 coming off the bench

this is a must. go after bynum.
pg tyreke 6'6
sg thornton 6'4
sf greene 6'10
pf dmc 6'11
c bynum 7'1

 

[sterö]

both make the same amount of money. 13 million{ dally 13.4, bynum 13.7}
bynum is younger and put dmc at pf and bynum at 5 omg beast frouncourt
id say do it.
yes we are trading with la but lakers are going to blow it up. bynum is 7'1 and dmc is 6'11 and still can grow beause hes only 20. then we have jt and whiteside 7'1 coming off the bench

this is a must. go after bynum.
pg tyreke 6'6
sg thornton 6'4
sf greene 6'10
pf dmc 6'11
c bynum 7'1

Why would the Lakers do that?

 

[Tetsujin]

both make the same amount of money. 13 million{ dally 13.4, bynum 13.7}
bynum is younger and put dmc at pf and bynum at 5 omg beast frouncourt
id say do it.
yes we are trading with la but lakers are going to blow it up. bynum is 7'1 and dmc is 6'11 and still can grow beause hes only 20. then we have jt and whiteside 7'1 coming off the bench

this is a must. go after bynum.
pg tyreke 6'6
sg thornton 6'4
sf greene 6'10
pf dmc 6'11
c bynum 7'1

Rule number one: NEVER trade with the Lakers.

 

[Vlade4GM]

um, yeah.

 

[Uncia03]

We lost our ability to make that type of deal at the end of the trade deadline. We could do a sign-and-trade, but I don't see the Lakers having any desire to pick up Dalembert. If they were going to try and go after a big-man, I could see them trying to pry Chandler out of Cuban's hands, as Chandler is the currently 'defensive big-man' flavor of the month.

But to be honest, if the CBA goes as some people expect, and player salaries are reduced a significant amount, then I think the Lakers are going to be in a bind. Bynum is slated to make 15 million dollars next year.
I really don't see teams jumping up and down to get Bynum at that price.
I keep hearing the whole "trade Bynum to Orlando for Howard" scenario, and I just don't see Orlando taking on Bynum's contract at that price.
Here's the thing, Bynum is going to be paid 15 million next year. The year after that, he has a team option of 16.5 million dollars.
I can all but guarantee that the option is not going to be picked up, and he's going to become a free agent.
At that time, people will be competing for his services, but at the newly reduced CBA rates.
So if Orlando, or Sacramento, or any other team traded for Bynum this year, they are only going to have him for a year, then not take up his option, then compete with all the other teams for his services.

So as much as I hear that the Lakers should Trade Bynum to get a good player, he really isn't that good of a trading chip due to the salary that he's owed. (Not to mention his inability to stay healthy)
I mean, if the Lakers can't be successful with Bynum, why would another team risk it?

And then Gasol....The Lakers messed up big-time on that one. They will never be able to trade him, as he's under contract for 3 more years at around 19 million a year.

All my Laker co-workers just want to dump Artest, but they don't realize that they are going to be stuck with him for 3 more years, it's just fantastic.

It's funny, no-one at my work seems to have any idea how NBA salaries work. So when they talk about just signing CP3 and Dwight Howard, because they would want to be Lakers, it makes me chuckle, because the only player who has any sort of real trade value on that team is Lamar Odom, and he isn't going to net them a super-star in return.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Rule number one: NEVER trade with the Lakers.

No, no, no that's rule number two. Rule number one is never trade a free agent.

 

[ParniValjak]

I wouldn't!

Who out of Cousins and Bynum would guard PFs of the world?!

Neither can guard PFs and Dally has proven that he can. Its not always about who is a better player but quite often its about who is a greater fit in the overall puzzle.

Plus, Bynum's knees scare me!

 

[rainmaker]

both make the same amount of money. 13 million{ dally 13.4, bynum 13.7}
bynum is younger and put dmc at pf and bynum at 5 omg beast frouncourt
id say do it.
yes we are trading with la but lakers are going to blow it up. bynum is 7'1 and dmc is 6'11 and still can grow beause hes only 20. then we have jt and whiteside 7'1 coming off the bench

this is a must. go after bynum.
pg tyreke 6'6
sg thornton 6'4
sf greene 6'10
pf dmc 6'11
c bynum 7'1

As soon as you explain to me how you can trade someone not currently under contract with us. Or did you not even realize that before making the thread?

 

[Bricklayer]

Okay, Bynum is a much better player, so its a no brainer on that front. Is younger obviously, but actually much less durable.

BUT, minor detail, Dalembert's contract just ran out, and if we resign him this summer we are hoping to get him back at a significant discount. And of course since he is not under contract, we CAN'T trade him.

That's before we get to the point Carolina raised that Bynum/Cousins together probably does not work as Bynum lacks Daly's mobility and ability to guard atheltic 4s. Any C brought in has to be able to play alongside Cousins, or otherwise he jsut becvomes a very expensive 15 min a game backup.

 

[DesertFox]

I would settle for just Bynum's post talents in a sealed jar. Give it to JT, and that would be a fine trade.

 

[Section 101]

Actually, you guys are all wrong. We could give Dalembert an extension and trade him before July 1st with another team out of the playoffs.

 

[funkykingston]

Bynum has averaged 51 games a year over the last four years and just 55 games a year for his career. And that's while averaging 24 mpg. If I were a low level playoff team looking to blow things up and start over I'd gamble on Bynum and his $15 million dollar salary for the next two seasons. At best he becomes a stud center and at worst he provides huge cap relief when his deal ends.

But for the Kings? No real reason to. We have our young, promising big man in Cousins and Dalembert (who as stated is a FA and not available for anything other than an approved sign-and-trade) has somewhat surprisingly shown himself to be a great compliment to him. Bynum is obviously more talented, bigger, younger etc but there's just no reason to gamble on him staying healthy and fitting in.

Besides, the Lakers aren't looking to trade an (albeit injury prone) young stud big for a 30 year old role player like Dalembert. If Bynum is traded this summer it would be part of a blockbuster (for Howard or Chris Paul though I certainly hope neither happens) or for a young guy with a lot of promise. Bynum for Steph Curry and change makes a lot of sense for both teams for instance.

I think the direction the Lakers go next will depend in large part on who they choose as a coach. If it isn't Shaw and they drop the triangle offense I think the first order of business will be to upgrade the PG position.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

why not? he has the heart of a champion

 

[SacKings7]

We obviously win the trade based on talent, years left, championship experience etc. But I don't want that bum on my team. And as some other posters mentioned, he would not work well with Cousins on the floor.

 

[Shabazz916]

no!! simple and plain we already have 3 scoring options we dnt need 4

 

[Big Cuz 15]

why not? he has the heart of a champion

btw, i was kidding about bynum. i wouldn't want that scum bag on the team

 

[GeorgeofSacramento]

Rule #1. Don't trade with the Flakers.
Rule #2. Don't do anything that might make the Flakers stronger.
Rule #3. Don't make a friend/teammate/King have to put on a Flakers jersey.
Rule #4. Don't answer the phone when Jerry Buss calls.
Rule #5. When in doubt, see Rule #1.

Rinse, and repeat as needed.

 

[bajaden]

Bynum has averaged 51 games a year over the last four years and just 55 games a year for his career. And that's while averaging 24 mpg. If I were a low level playoff team looking to blow things up and start over I'd gamble on Bynum and his $15 million dollar salary for the next two seasons. At best he becomes a stud center and at worst he provides huge cap relief when his deal ends.

But for the Kings? No real reason to. We have our young, promising big man in Cousins and Dalembert (who as stated is a FA and not available for anything other than an approved sign-and-trade) has somewhat surprisingly shown himself to be a great compliment to him. Bynum is obviously more talented, bigger, younger etc but there's just no reason to gamble on him staying healthy and fitting in.

Besides, the Lakers aren't looking to trade an (albeit injury prone) young stud big for a 30 year old role player like Dalembert. If Bynum is traded this summer it would be part of a blockbuster (for Howard or Chris Paul though I certainly hope neither happens) or for a young guy with a lot of promise. Bynum for Steph Curry and change makes a lot of sense for both teams for instance.

I think the direction the Lakers go next will depend in large part on who they choose as a coach. If it isn't Shaw and they drop the triangle offense I think the first order of business will be to upgrade the PG position.

Well you beat me to it Mr. Smarty Pants. But your right, this guy is one of the least durable players in the NBA, and he's making just under 14 million dollars. And after the way he punked Barea, I want no part of him. But that aside, there is no way you can put Cousins and Bynum on the floor together and be as good defensively as Cousins and Dalembert. Last year, Dally guarded the PF position far more than Cousins did. Trust me, Bynum can't guard the PF position. Just for reference, here are the amount of games Bynum has played in each of his six years in the NBA.

1. 46
2. 82
3. 35
4. 50
5. 65
6. 54

One 82 game season out of the six. Do you really want to pay a player 14 mil a year to play in 54 games.

 

[hrdboild]

I find it curious that some people would consider bringing in Bynum's contract but very few would consider targeting Oden. I'm at least intrigued by the possibility of Oden. Bynum is a hell no for me. His ceiling isn't high enough to warrant his injury/attitude issues. And at this point, I'd even say the same about Pau Gasol. Their weaknesses have been exposed several times over. With those contracts it'd be like buying a flank steak at filet mignon prices.

EDIT -- I didn't see that Bynum only has one year, plus a team option, left on his contract. That makes it a little more palatable, but I'm still not thrilled about his potential. He's a big body and he does make a difference on defense, but he's not reliable as a post-scoring option and his teammates don't seem to like him very much. I'd still prefer Dalembert.

 

[rainmaker]

I'd rather see Cousins abuse him in the post for the next 12-15 years.

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

I'd rather see Cousins abuse him in the post for the next 12-15 years.

You think Bynum's gonna be in the league 12 years from now?? I think he'll be broken down and busted well before then.

As for the original question: as a professional armchair GM, I have a strict NPA policy. That is, no punks allowed. We've always known what these Phil Jackson Lakers were underneath, beneath all the flashing lights and hype. The great thing is that they went ahead and showed that side to the whole world last week. I want nothing to do with Bynum, and I would very much dislike having to root for his success. Emotions aside, he really isn't a good fit at all next to Cousins, who, in year one, is already more skilled and talented than Bynum.

 

[SacTownKid]

Heck no! I was looking forward to watching Cousins continue to dismantle this joker piece by piece for years to come!

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

That's a classic risk/reward scenario. Risk, Bynum goes down with his annual knee injury and you're stuck paying 15 million to a guy who won't play 50 games. Reward, Bynum stays healthy and averages 17 and 13 starting for the Kings.

It would be a tough decision. You could look at it as a one year try out but the downside to that is he might stay healthy, play great, then bolt for a team like the Knicks or Heat in 2012/2013. Then you're out Bynum and you lost Dalembert. If you did keep Bynum, you'd probably have to give him a HUGE contract to do it, would he be worth it?

It’d be the type of decision I’d dread having to make if I were a GM. The gambling side of me would say go for Bynum but the play it safe side of me would say lock up Dalembert for five years.

 

[KingsCitizen]

Heck no! I was looking forward to watching Cousins continue to dismantle this joker piece by piece for years to come!

Best comment on this thread!

 

[bajaden]

That's a classic risk/reward scenario. Risk, Bynum goes down with his annual knee injury and you're stuck paying 15 million to a guy who won't play 50 games. Reward, Bynum stays healthy and averages 17 and 13 starting for the Kings.

It would be a tough decision. You could look at it as a one year try out but the downside to that is he might stay healthy, play great, then bolt for a team like the Knicks or Heat in 2012/2013. Then you're out Bynum and you lost Dalembert. If you did keep Bynum, you'd probably have to give him a HUGE contract to do it, would he be worth it?

It’d be the type of decision I’d dread having to make if I were a GM. The gambling side of me would say go for Bynum but the play it safe side of me would say lock up Dalembert for five years.

My gut tells me that if you were the GM, you'd error on the side of being safe. Considering that Dally isn't even signed at the moment, its all a moot point. But with Bynum you have a guy thats been injured in 5 of his 6 years in the league. There's no denying that when he's healthy, he's an imposing figure in the post. However, its strange that the Lakers played their best ball when he was injured and Gasol played the center position, and Odom was at the PF position.

That aside, sometimes I think it just comes down to who is the best fit for your team. And in my humble opinion, Dalembert is a better fit for the Kings than Bynum would be. Dally is more versatile than Bynum. He's more comfortable away from the basket, and has the quickness to guard centers and PF's. He's a better passer than Bynum, which is important in the Kings offense. I think Cousins exposed Bynums weakness away from the basket when he was matched up against him. I'm just fine with Dalembert..