Would you prefer that Ron stay?

[Gary]

I think there comes a point when you just have to ignore the haters...

Right... I should take that same advice and ignore the hard heads (meaning the people with the wool pulled over their eyes)

Tell me why he should stay.. Tell me, what qualities does he bring to the team? His flaws outweigh his qualities by at least 2 to 1.

 

[hrdboild]

All except for one (Kings fans that I know personally) want Ron here. We are talking 20+.. The one happens to be my mother, and she isn't really that knowledgeable re: the Kings..

There must be a typo in there, otherwise this comment doesn't make sense.

 

[Jechtsphere]

Haters?

I think when a player has talent as good as ron does and the poll says people want him to leave more than twice as much as people want him to stay then there is something very wrong with that player.

The people who want him to stay don't care what he does or says or the selfishness.

 

[upinsmoke]

Right... I should take that same advice and ignore the hard heads (meaning the people with the wool pulled over their eyes)

Tell me why he should stay.. Tell me, what qualities does he bring to the team? His flaws outweigh his qualities by at least 2 to 1.

Hardest working guy on the court the man never stops playing.

Defensive monster

Guards multiple positions

Matchup knightmare for just about every team.

Good jump shooter and can penetrate and finish in the paint.

Solid rebounder

and last but not least he brings more to the table than anyone in a white and purple jersey PERIOD.

 

[SacKings7]

Oh my sweet jebus so many of you hate ron but just love Brad and wish he was the sh!t.

I could already see it if Ron was playing poorly like Brad, man you guys would be going nuts.

WE NEED A BAD GUY TYPE PLAYER AND I LOVE HIS GAME.

I want both of em gone

EDIT: Not because I hate either of them, I just think this team desperately needs to REBUILD. Plus it's only a matter of time before Artest explodes again.

 

[Bibby_10]

Ron is the man. Hope he stays.

 

[AyeCarly]

Hardest working guy on the court the man never stops playing.

Defensive monster

Guards multiple positions

Matchup knightmare for just about every team.

Good jump shooter and can penetrate and finish in the paint.

Solid rebounder

and last but not least he brings more to the table than anyone in a white and purple jersey PERIOD.

Most of us know what he brings to the court. I watch every game at least once (twice when we win).

The fact of the matter is, two seasons in a row we are out of the playoffs with him as our best player.

I personally like his style of play and everything he can do on the court. So after our horrible last season,
I figured I could give him one more season to prove the naysayers wrong. Well he hasn't.

He is an awesome 'individual' player. He just doesn't make his teammates much better,
like the greats were able to do Magic, Isaiah, Bird, MJ.

If he is as good as you think he is, he would have been able to get 'this team' to the playoffs
(with the help of Mike, Brad and Martin of course), but that hasn't happened, 2 years straight.

 

[Entity]

Where is the option for I don't give a **** we suck with or without him right now.

 

[chelle]

He needs to go. He does not make us a better team. There is no denying that he is a talented player, but he does not fit this team. I will gladly wish him all the best - on another team. His time here should be over.

 

[Gary]

There must be a typo in there, otherwise this comment doesn't make sense.

I said I have 20+ friends that are Kings fans too, and of the twenty all of them are Artest haters. Every single one of them want Artest out of here.

The only person I know that is an Artest fan is my mother, and she isn't really a knowledgeable Kings fan. She watches the games, but only knows who the starters, and a couple of the reserves are. We are making her a big Kings fan though. Every year she watches more and more games.

That's what I meant to say. I forgot to put "IN re: TO the Kings"..

The comment makes sense... All I forgot was the word "IN" before the "re:", and the word "TO" after the "re:".. Big deal.

 

[upinsmoke]

Most of us know what he brings to the court. I watch every game at least once (twice when we win).

The fact of the matter is, two seasons in a row we are out of the playoffs with him as our best player.

I personally like his style of play and everything he can do on the court. So after our horrible last season,
I figured I could give him one more season to prove the naysayers wrong. Well he hasn't.

He is an awesome 'individual' player. He just doesn't make his teammates much better,
like the greats were able to do Magic, Isaiah, Bird, MJ.

If he is as good as you think he is, he would have been able to get 'this team' to the playoffs
(with the help of Mike, Brad and Martin of course), but that hasn't happened, 2 years straight.

Did you just attempt to compare artest to the greats lol lol, anyways NO we wont be successfull with ron as our best player but thats not his fault. The kings need to bring is some players without a doubt. Ron is not the problem on this squad. Artest forces alot of shots yes but thats no reason to ship him out.

 

[uolj]

I like Artest. I root for him to do well. I think he's pretty darn good, easily the most talented player on the team.

However, I'd like to see him go because the Kings are at a point where his talent is not helping, and the extra-curricular stuff is hurting. Even if you think all that stuff isn't his fault and is blown out of proportion, it is still there.

Several years ago there was a King who also had extra-curricular stuff clouding his position with the team and fans. I advocated that he should stay, but that was primarily because at the time I didn't think it was time to end the championship run. There is no championship run now, so I have no problem letting Artest go.

It's going to take a few years to build contenders, I don't really want to have to deal with the extra stuff while we're waiting, and Artest is a great player but not great enough to be worth that.

 

[Ryan]

I like Artest. I root for him to do well. I think he's pretty darn good, easily the most talented player on the team.

However, I'd like to see him go because the Kings are at a point where his talent is not helping, and the extra-curricular stuff is hurting. Even if you think all that stuff isn't his fault and is blown out of proportion, it is still there.

Several years ago there was a King who also had extra-curricular stuff clouding his position with the team and fans. I advocated that he should stay, but that was primarily because at the time I didn't think it was time to end the championship run. There is no championship run now, so I have no problem letting Artest go.

It's going to take a few years to build contenders, I don't really want to have to deal with the extra stuff while we're waiting, and Artest is a great player but not great enough to be worth that.

I was going to contribute but you said everything i was about to say.

With that, I think all the trades this year has shown how much one player can make or break a team. Hopefully that will carry over into the summer - I'm sure there are plenty of teams that could use him in return for a young player or a draft pick.

 

[KingsFan93]

Hmmm. we must have an entirely different circle of kings fans then.

Each fan is different from the other and each has his own likes/dislikes, there's no good or bad, better or worse

 

[KingsFan93]

If only those who do not want Ron with the Kings could only do so without the extra bashing, that'd be another thing - however many just want to throw a jab at the guy at any possible occasion.

 

[jimbodan]

I like Ron a lot, but I still voted that he should go. The Kings need to rebuild and as a great a player as he is I don't think that: A. he wants to be a part of a re-build and B. that he would be good for a rebuilding team. Ron wants to win every single game and is passionate about that goal, when you are rebuilding most of the time it's better to simply lose while you try and develop talent. I think that if we keep Ron he will take away minutes from younger talent as well as force the hand of the coach to try and win now instead of being patient and develop players for the future.

 

[chelle]

If only those who do not want Ron with the Kings could only do so without the extra bashing, that'd be another thing - however many just want to throw a jab at the guy at any possible occasion.

I want Ron to go. That being said, I will cheer for him as long as he is a King. I do hope that his time here is short, but I also will wish him well where ever he may go. He is an extremely talented guy. I hope that he is finally able to get it all together.

 

[AyeCarly]

Did you just attempt to compare artest to the greats lol lol, anyways NO we wont be successfull with ron as our best player but thats not his fault. The kings need to bring is some players without a doubt. Ron is not the problem on this squad. Artest forces alot of shots yes but thats no reason to ship him out.

Anything can be compared to anything, who are you to say what I can and can't compare something to. Getta clue.

I was where you are at now (defending Ron) at the end of last year. I have since changed my mind. And I am not going to blame missing the playoffs on the coach nor the other players.

I AM going to blame it on our BEST player, who is on the court and controls what happens, i.e. winning or losing.

 

[KingsFan93]

I want Ron to go. That being said, I will cheer for him as long as he is a King. I do hope that his time here is short, but I also will wish him well where ever he may go. He is an extremely talented guy. I hope that he is finally able to get it all together.

Thank you, I would like to see Ron go too if that is to the benefit of the Kings; however I see that he is a good player for the Kings.

 

[Kingster]

I would have preferred he never came here in the first place. He's been good for bulletin board material, not for developing the long term improvement of the franchise. I wanted Peja to be traded, but for Artest???? Now, we're stuck with him because nobody wants him - I guess being on the 20 most talented players in the NBA list doesn't count for much when you're a major head case. I was hoping we'd find some dupe to take him off our hands for a fairly high #1, but it doesn't appear that there's a greater fool out there. Oh well, we'll probably have him on our team next year because he exercises his option to stay.

 

[vj9999]

I never liked him coming here in the first place, but as long as he is a King I'll support him (as long as he is not a distraction to the team). I think he should not be in our future/rebuilding plans (nor do I think he wants to be a big part of our rebuilding process).

 

[upinsmoke]

Anything can be compared to anything, who are you to say what I can and can't compare something to. Getta clue.

I was where you are at now (defending Ron) at the end of last year. I have since changed my mind. And I am not going to blame missing the playoffs on the coach nor the other players.

I AM going to blame it on our BEST player, who is on the court and controls what happens, i.e. winning or losing.

I question your basketball knowledge because basketball is a team sport from the head coach to the best player down the last guy on the bench.

BTW its a high chance Ron will stay because not to many teams will touch him without trying to rip us off, and GP is not big on giving up talent for nothing unless that guy is chris webber with his ugly contract.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

For OptimusRhyme

Thank you for making this poll Kingzrool

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Ron does disrupt our offence a bit, but he also disrupts the other teams offence more then any other Kings player. In the playoffs you need people like Ron Artest.. a fighter thats not scared to compete or take S*it from anybody.
Ron is one of the best two way players in the league and hes only 28...
We have a player on our team that can get into the minds of the greatest scorers on the oppositions team and defend them better then anyone else in the league. And how bout this.. do you really want to see Martin trying to guard kobe then being tired on offence if we ever play the lakers in the playoffs... or do you want artest to take care of Kobe still drop twenty and Martin still be on his game because he dosent have to guard the greatest player in the world..
We need ron.. with all the stupid talk about how ron is crazy how he is disruptive.. ron has still came out every game and played harder then any other king i've seen this year.hes dealing with alot right now and i think if we signed him to a short maybe 2 year contract we would see an even more improved settled down ron trying to fit into a teams concept..

 

[Jerryaki]

wow, can't believe this topic is still around. actually, can believe it, just already tired of how much it will be around through the offseason.

ron artest is talented; a lot of people in this league are. but he doesn't make the team better. i don't know how anyone can look at our record over the past few years and think that ron artest helps elevate this team to another level; we're mired in mediocrity year after year. we need a game changer, a true franchise player, and that ain't artest.

and to be honest, if he were such a talented player, wouldn't it be reasonably viable to trade him? but it's proven difficult year after year. the only ones who value him highly are fans in sacramento, and we have to to stop from crying.

 

[Fear the Putin]

Ron does disrupt our offence a bit, but he also disrupts the other teams offence more then any other Kings player. In the playoffs you need people like Ron Artest.. a fighter thats not scared to compete or take S*it from anybody.
Ron is one of the best two way players in the league and hes only 28...
We have a player on our team that can get into the minds of the greatest scorers on the oppositions team and defend them better then anyone else in the league. And how bout this.. do you really want to see Martin trying to guard kobe then being tired on offence if we ever play the lakers in the playoffs... or do you want artest to take care of Kobe still drop twenty and Martin still be on his game because he dosent have to guard the greatest player in the world..
We need ron.. with all the stupid talk about how ron is crazy how he is disruptive.. ron has still came out every game and played harder then any other king i've seen this year.hes dealing with alot right now and i think if we signed him to a short maybe 2 year contract we would see an even more improved settled down ron trying to fit into a teams concept..

playoffs? playoffs?
Why imagine Artest and the Kings in the playoffs and how he will help them if were not gonna be in the playoffs for a while...and against the Lakers for that matter who are set for the next 5-6 years.

 

[CruzDude]

There are two key difference between Ron and Brad which make me more inclined to have Brad around. 1) Brad makes his teammates better, I do not think that Ron does. 2) Ron can implode and ruin a franchise. (ask Indiana)

RonRon can also implode in a game. Last Laker game was an example. He did drive Kobe nuts but was ready to explode. They took him out and Kings beat Lakers IN LA!! how sweet.

IF RonRon can be coachable and be the big cog in the team chain, and do what needs to be done vs. what he wants to do, yes he can help by staying. But can he do that consistently? Has not shown that in more than 1-2 games in a row, then off to taking charge while everyone else stands around and waits to see what he is up to.

This is a dam if you do and dam if you don't answer but I went NO for the longer run.

 

[Jechtsphere]

The poll speaks for itself.