will the addition of Bobby help Douby?

[Big Cuz 15]

when they drafted douby and said he was a lights out shooter, good offensively. i thought about bobby. bobby took a while before he became the player he was when the kings signed him. will the addition of bobby help douby find his way into the rotation? bobby taking douby under his wing and helping him...

 

[OptimusRhyme]

hopefully, they are pretty similar players. Bobby needs to show douby the basic passing game.I'm not sure if he can teach him his fearlessness but that would be sweet too.

 

[bench_blob]

Only Quincy Douby can help Quincy Douby.

The way I see it, Bobby Brown will be taking Q-Doub's minutes. Douby needs a fresh start with a new team, or go play in Europe where he put up a lot of points in a lesser league.

Reggie Theus has NO plans for Douby. The writing is on the wall.

 

[One and Done]

I get the feeling that Douby had his chance last year & wasn't able to capitalize upon it.

Douby's buried deep in the rotation, and barring injury, may see less playing time this year.

 

[bajaden]

I think the question is, do we need Douby? If Brown fills the role that was orginally intended for Douby, then he becomes expendable. I think that Douby has some talent. It just hasn't, so far, translated to what the Kings are looking for. It may not be all his fault, with the coaching changes in the last few years, but I do agree, that its up to him, not BJax, or anyone else.

When I was growing up my great aunt, who raised me, told me that when you go to work for someone, make yourself valuable to them. Make them believe that they need you, even if your just washing dishes. Be the best dishwasher they ever saw. Douby hasn't done that, and basketball, at the end of the day, is still just a job.

 

[VF21]

When I was growing up my great aunt, who raised me, told me that when you go to work for someone, make yourself valuable to them. Make them believe that they need you, even if your just washing dishes. Be the best dishwasher they ever saw. Douby hasn't done that, and basketball, at the end of the day, is still just a job.

I think that's it in a nutshell. Douby needs to be the best he possibly can be, whether he's getting lots of minutes or the occasional glimpse. And, unfortunately, I don't know if Quincy has it in him to do that.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

I think that's it in a nutshell. Douby needs to be the best he possibly can be, whether he's getting lots of minutes or the occasional glimpse. And, unfortunately, I don't know if Quincy has it in him to do that.

I think part of the problem is that QD just needs minutes. There were points in Garcia and Martin's second years where they were burried on the bench and looked bad in limited minutes.

Douby has shown glimpses and can have a role on this team. If he can just play D and shoot 3s and hit the occasional drive. He has it in him. Douby may never be great and if we only judge his success on how he compares to Rondo and Farmar (who we passed on) we're opening ourselves up for dissapointment. However, the third year is where it clicks for a lot of shooters, so let's not write QD off yet. I'll take a zone buster who can play good D off the bench anyday.

 

[Bricklayer]

The addition of Bobby more likely spells the end of Douby's hopes....if Bobby can stay healthy. Now that's a big if of course. But problem is that the backup PG is now taken care of, and so Douby is again a man without any potential role, and even the emergency 3rd PG role is now threatened by Brown's arrival. Basically he has to be sitting there on the bench hoping somebody gets hurt or his career is in serious danger of going kaput.

PG - Beno, BJax, Brown?, Douby
SG - Kevin, Cisco, Bobby/Salmons?, Douby
SF - Salmons, Cisco, Greene

He is going to be in a struggle to remain on the active roster. Unless we get hurt of course. And sad as it is to say, he actually at some level has to almost be hoping for that. Beno, Bobby and Kevin have all shown a tendency to miss time, so maybe he'll get one more chance. But we have 13 guys who want to play (and two who want to but will not in KT and SAR), and Douby is going to be back there in a scrum with Brown, Greene and maybe Shelden to avoid being the 13th guy on a 12 man roster.

 

[CruzDude]

Douby seems to be a pure shooter who had some defense possibilities with his long arms as he is only 6-3. But the Kings need a reliable 3-pt shooter off the bench and he hasn't done that....yet. As previous folk on this thread are saying, "he needs to be the best he can be" but he doesn't appear to have done that. If he can come in and pop 2-3 3ptrs and score a quick 6-8 pts a night, then maybe, especially if he can bother/disrupt the opponent PG. GP likes him for sure but until he produces his leash is real short.

But as said, if Bobby Brown can come in and can do that as well as learn to be "the" backup PG under BJax, then he will get Douby's minutes.

BJax IMHO will be the PG/bench mentor for Brown/Douby as well as Beno, based on his 10 yr+ in the league. Kinda like the Dodgers have Greg Maddux on their team: he's "been there done that" many times and knows what to expect and how to pitch to most teams. BJax can do the same for the back court "kids".

 

[Gary]

I think the problem is that a lot of people still think Douby is a PG or should get backup PG minutes.

Douby is a SG plain and simple. He is playing behind Martin, and Garcia (Garcia getting the bulk of the backup SG/SF minutes). There just isn't any room on this team for an undersized SG playing behind a top 8 SG in the league. Douby needs to pull up stakes and move on.

I think Douby would fit best on a team with like a Dwane Wade type player who doesn't necessarily play PG but gets the bulk of the ball handeling duties.

 

[Telemachus]

when they drafted douby and said he was a lights out shooter, good offensively. i thought about bobby. bobby took a while before he became the player he was when the kings signed him. will the addition of bobby help douby find his way into the rotation? bobby taking douby under his wing and helping him...

I personally think that the addition of BJax will kill any chance Douby had to get meaningful minutes this season. Unlike Douby, BJax can play the point (running the offense), or play SG. If healthy, I believe he will take most of Douby's time on the court. The X factor in all of this will be Bobby Brown. If he can produce anything like he did in Europe and Summer leagues, then Douby's days are numbered.

 

[Prince_XY]

It already showed last season that Quincy Douby seemed not wanting, or at the very least finds it hard to learn to be a point guard. IMHO, this guy is basically an undersized and second-rate shooting guard which the Kings don't need right now.

If he is as good as Allen Iverson, then he is fine with me to stay. But if he would only be like another trying-hard-to-be Allen Iverson ( like Bibby ), who mainly thinks that basketball is ONLY about individual scoring, then he would be a big headache in the future.

If Bobby Brown turns out to be a decent PG ( which I hope he would be ), then it will help the Kings realize they don't have a need for Douby.

 

[Elektrik]

The way I see it, Bobby Brown will be taking Q-Doub's minutes. .

Is Q-Doub related to J-Doob?

 

[NewArena]

God lets hope thats what it means, Douby is pretty awful in so many facets of the game. Mainly his ability to recognize and manage the gameclock.

 

[Smills91]

I think it's funny that everyone is willing to give the new guy "Bobby Brown" a benefit of the doubt because he's the 'new guy' and had an impressive summer league with New Orleans, when Douby had just as impressive summer league with the Kings, the only difference is he's not the 'new guy' anymore. QUincy has rarely seen meaningful minutes and when he has had some nice stretches of promise. He's only been in the league 2 years and part of the problem that has expedited his 'demise' as some would like to refer to it, is the fact that he's been experimented with as a PG, when in fact his game is suited as a scorer off the bench as a SG. With Ron gone, I see Salmons/Garcia seeing the bulk of the minutes at the 3. I see Beno/Bobby/Bobby getting the minutes at the 1 and then I think Douby will actually get some burn as the back-up 2 guard with Garcia squeezing out some minutes there as well. I think Douby can get a consistent 15-20 minutes a night and be a sparkplug scorer and aggressive defensive player off the bench. I think he could be a Leandro Barbaso type scorer in this league all while playing some defense.

Bobby Brown's signing has NOTHING to do with Douby other than the fact that Douby is NOT a PG. Douby will get minutes at the 2. I don't see Greene getting many if any minutes THIS season and if he does it'll be due to injury.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I think Douby would fit best on a team with like a Dwane Wade type player who doesn't necessarily play PG but gets the bulk of the ball handeling duties.

You mean like Cisco or Salmons? I still haven't heard a convincing argument why Douby can't play at the 1 if those two do most of the ball handling off the bench. Or do we not want them handling the ball much, either?

 

[bajaden]

I think it's funny that everyone is willing to give the new guy "Bobby Brown" a benefit of the doubt because he's the 'new guy' and had an impressive summer league with New Orleans, when Douby had just as impressive summer league with the Kings, the only difference is he's not the 'new guy' anymore. QUincy has rarely seen meaningful minutes and when he has had some nice stretches of promise. He's only been in the league 2 years and part of the problem that has expedited his 'demise' as some would like to refer to it, is the fact that he's been experimented with as a PG, when in fact his game is suited as a scorer off the bench as a SG. With Ron gone, I see Salmons/Garcia seeing the bulk of the minutes at the 3. I see Beno/Bobby/Bobby getting the minutes at the 1 and then I think Douby will actually get some burn as the back-up 2 guard with Garcia squeezing out some minutes there as well. I think Douby can get a consistent 15-20 minutes a night and be a sparkplug scorer and aggressive defensive player off the bench. I think he could be a Leandro Barbaso type scorer in this league all while playing some defense.

Bobby Brown's signing has NOTHING to do with Douby other than the fact that Douby is NOT a PG. Douby will get minutes at the 2. I don't see Greene getting many if any minutes THIS season and if he does it'll be due to injury.

Bobby Browns signing has nothing to do with Douby, other than the fact it removed any chance of him getting minutes at the point position. Especially with BJax there also. I stated earlier that I didn't think it was all Douby's fault. He was asked to learn to play a new position and had to do so under different coaches. A bad break, but the bottom line is, he's now a smallish two guard, and to make it in this league as a smallish two guard you have to be at least a little bit special. AKA Ben Gordon etc.

I disagree with you on Greene. Reggie is being asked to develop the young players. Thats not going to happen with them sitting on the bench. If Seattle can throw Durant right into the mix in they're quest to return to prominance, then why can't the King's. This is a team on the rebuild, and its no time to do it half a$$. I don't believe that Reggie is going to be judged on wins and losses, but on how the young players develop. We'll see just how good a teacher he is.

 

[Bricklayer]

Given that Kevin by himself should average around 38min/gm at SG, that precludes the possibility for an undersized pure SG with no ability to play SF or PG to get 15-20min. Throw in the presence of Cisco, a better, bigger, player who is also a coach's favorite and the possibility to even get those remainiing 10 begins to shrink dramtically. Throw in your SF being a swingman (Salmons) your backup PG being a career long 1/2, your starting PG being 6'3" and having played some 2 last year, and THEN the presence of a new scoring PG type in Brown and you have Douby right back where he's been -- squeezed into garbagetime. He needs somebody to get hurt, bottom line.

And even if they do...nobody drafts a skinny 6'2"/6'3" guy with the idea they will be a pure SG. Whenever those guys get drafted the thought is always well maybe we can turn them into a PG or combo guard or some such. When its clear they just aren't going to be able to do that...that's tough. When your coach basically had to have his arm twisted to the breaking point last year to play you even when the season was already lost, that's even tougher.

 

[bajaden]

Given that Kevin by himself should average around 38min/gm at SG, that precludes the possibility for an undersized pure SG with no ability to play SF or PG to get 15-20min. Throw in the presence of Cisco, a better, bigger, player who is also a coach's favorite and the possibility to even get those remainiing 10 begins to shrink dramtically. Throw in your SF being a swingman (Salmons) your backup PG being a career long 1/2, your starting PG being 6'3" and having played some 2 last year, and THEN the presence of a new scoring PG type in Brown and you have Douby right back where he's been -- squeezed into garbagetime. He needs somebody to get hurt, bottom line.

And even if they do...nobody drafts a skinny 6'2"/6'3" guy with the idea they will be a pure SG. Whenever those guys get drafted the thought is always well maybe we can turn them into a PG or combo guard or some such. When its clear they just aren't going to be able to do that...that's tough. When your coach basically had to have his arm twisted to the breaking point last year to play you even when the season was already lost, that's even tougher.

Well said!

 

[bloom]

Quincy isn’t and probably will never be a point guard, so Bobby isn’t going to take minutes away from Douby in the PG position.

I think Bobby’s presence and guidance could help Quincy out, basically showing Quincy that he needs to come in and play with intensity and have a chip on his shoulder (especially since Douby is a smaller guy)…There’s 2 things that Quincy needs right now, 1st: some good minutes. He needs time to come in and be able to play without worrying about being thrown out of the game if he makes a mistake (both Kevin and Cisco also needed minutes to show us what they’ve got) 2nd: He needs to be more fired up when he plays (passing, cutting, being the lights out shooter that I’m really hoping to see and he seems to be a good defender). He could be a good bench player with Cisco and even Bobby Jackson/Bobby Brown/Donte if he played with more splash and drive. He also needs to find his game within this team.