Why doesn't the front office come clean about their mistake?
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i mean the clues are all there that this Vivek stuff is true. He clearly is making some decisions (Rudy Gay, Nik Stauskas draft pick, etc) so it's not impossible to think the stuff PDX said is totally true.
i think he's much worse than even any of us here think. look how many long time Kings employees have been fired or "parted ways" in the last year and a half
i think he's much worse than even any of us here think. look how many long time Kings employees have been fired or "parted ways" in the last year and a half
Need to be careful in drawing conclusions. It could all be true or not. The he said, she said saga with the truth in between.
He is the general managing partner so the buck stops there. On the other hand, one side of the organization (business side) seems to be hitting on most cylinders (misfires possibly attributed to Basketball side) while the basketball side of operations seems either to miss-firing or missing the spark plugs entirely. Vivek is over both sides, so why is the screw-ups seemingly restricted mostly to one side?
He is the general managing partner so the buck stops there. On the other hand, one side of the organization (business side) seems to be hitting on most cylinders (misfires possibly attributed to Basketball side) while the basketball side of operations seems either to miss-firing or missing the spark plugs entirely. Vivek is over both sides, so why is the screw-ups seemingly restricted mostly to one side?
With the Vivek rumors, I'm reminded of Grant's rant from a month back. He made it very clear the problems and issues the fans are commenting on are shared within the organization as well, that the majority of Kings employees feel the same way the fans do. He point blank said the majority both inside and out of the organization.
You have to question what kind of a climate there is within this franchise right now. And that of course would go above PDA, straight to the top, to Vivek. The CEO/President/owner of any company or team creates the environment below him. It's top down. And generally, with rumors we've heard and in this case I don't take Grant's words lightly as he is within the organization and that rant seemed like a brief moment of true honesty from the guy, there's something to it as when there's smoke, fire isn't far behind.
I even saw Dave on twitter the other day when reading through his exchanges saying there's too many opinions within our FO. There's more and more leaking out which says the Kings behind the scenes are a dysfunctional mess behind the scenes. I don't believe it's just a PDA/Mullin issue.
You have to question what kind of a climate there is within this franchise right now. And that of course would go above PDA, straight to the top, to Vivek. The CEO/President/owner of any company or team creates the environment below him. It's top down. And generally, with rumors we've heard and in this case I don't take Grant's words lightly as he is within the organization and that rant seemed like a brief moment of true honesty from the guy, there's something to it as when there's smoke, fire isn't far behind.
I even saw Dave on twitter the other day when reading through his exchanges saying there's too many opinions within our FO. There's more and more leaking out which says the Kings behind the scenes are a dysfunctional mess behind the scenes. I don't believe it's just a PDA/Mullin issue.
Never.
Anytime anybody makes this ridiculous charge I will counter it.
The Maloofs singlehandedly sunk multiple attempts by the city to build an arena. They tried to move our team at least twice (Mexico City(!!), Anaheim) and I only don't count Virginia Beach because I don't think they ever had any true intention of going there. But maybe three times. And that also doesn't count their dreams of moving the team to Vegas. On top of that, once they had no choice but to sell they maliciously tried to sell the team to investors who would move it to Seattle WITHOUT EVEN GIVING LOCAL INVESTORS A CHANCE TO MATCH OR EVEN NOTIFYING THEM IT WAS ON THE MARKET. The Maloofs spent over a decade trying their best to make sure we lost our team - even after they knew they wouldn't own it anymore.
Vivek, at worst, is meddling in basketball operations that he shouldn't be meddling in. But he signed binding documents keeping the team in Sacramento for 30 years. I am not saying "bow down at the altar of Vivek" because frankly he's ticking me off, but in the annals of terrible owners he can't even be mentioned in the same chapter as the Maloofs. Anybody who says otherwise is wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Ridiculously wrong.
Anytime anybody makes this ridiculous charge I will counter it.
The Maloofs singlehandedly sunk multiple attempts by the city to build an arena. They tried to move our team at least twice (Mexico City(!!), Anaheim) and I only don't count Virginia Beach because I don't think they ever had any true intention of going there. But maybe three times. And that also doesn't count their dreams of moving the team to Vegas. On top of that, once they had no choice but to sell they maliciously tried to sell the team to investors who would move it to Seattle WITHOUT EVEN GIVING LOCAL INVESTORS A CHANCE TO MATCH OR EVEN NOTIFYING THEM IT WAS ON THE MARKET. The Maloofs spent over a decade trying their best to make sure we lost our team - even after they knew they wouldn't own it anymore.
Vivek, at worst, is meddling in basketball operations that he shouldn't be meddling in. But he signed binding documents keeping the team in Sacramento for 30 years. I am not saying "bow down at the altar of Vivek" because frankly he's ticking me off, but in the annals of terrible owners he can't even be mentioned in the same chapter as the Maloofs. Anybody who says otherwise is wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Ridiculously wrong.
As far as I'm concerned, the book is still open on Vivek. Owners nix deals all the time, proposing them probably a different story. As far as his claim for wanting Rudy from the get-go, if I remember correctly, I took it was a grain of salt. It was almost like he was taking credit for something that went right. Insecurity maybe?
As I mentioned before, there is a video in the draft war room that shows Vivek basically imposing that Nik Staskus pick. Nik may end up to be decent as I don't want to write him off yet, but clearly it was whatever Vivek says goes.
Vivek claims he likes to surround himself with people smarter than himself and let them go to work, but unfortunately he only said that to name drop Steve Jobs as his good friend. In reality, he wants yes men that will echo him.
That makes perfect sense and I agree with it, along with the hope. I had put that contrast because it seems the vindictiveness towards Vivek has increased. While the buck stops with him, I have to look at who is on the basketball side and think about the need to replace them. He may not realize it yet (in terms of basketball), but without the expertise of those under you, your sunk.
In a similar story, I spoke with Darius Anderson prior to the start of this season. We spoke about a lot of things (non-Kings), and he mentioned his disdain towards Vivek, which is well-documented from his pending lawsuit against Vivek and Mastrov. Anyways, he stated the Kings would never win with Vivek in control and that he would be a meddling and unloyal owner in the worse kind of way. We debated a bit, as I was all gung-ho about the teams' direction at that time of our conversation. Obviously, he has a strong bias in this matter, but damn if it doesn't seem to be all true in this gloomy hour.
We know they bought with intention to move the team. BUT.. when the team had unexpected success, they did not yank the rug out from under it - they rode the wave and gave it their all. They did everything under the sun to optimize our "run". Then they went broke and turned into desperate degenerates. But... still, at this stage of things - they were behaving as better owners than the current group, right up till Webber's knee injury.
No way the Maloofs would fire Malone under similar circumstances. Too much money to be made riding a winner. No ridiculous idea that they could reinvent the game playing Bighorns style or 6th grade girls style. No secret love and urgency to emulate the team 80 miles to the west.
No way the Maloofs would fire Malone under similar circumstances. Too much money to be made riding a winner. No ridiculous idea that they could reinvent the game playing Bighorns style or 6th grade girls style. No secret love and urgency to emulate the team 80 miles to the west.
It is the owner's place to do whatever he pleases with HIS team. The only people he really has to answer to are his business partners. There are tons of things to be upset about but you're acting as though owning a significant part of the business doesn't entitle you to make any decisions regarding the business ... and that's just silly.