Who would you rather have

I assumed it was players in their prime because otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever.

:)
 
This is basically the "put our current players versus our [basically] NBA championship players and see what Kings fans will pick" thread.

What surprising results!!
 
Kevin Martin or Peja Stojakovic
Francisco Garcia or Jon Barry
Corliss Williamson or Mikki Moore
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
John Salmons or Hedo Turkoglu
Quincy Douby or Gerald Wallace
Kenny Thomas or Scot Pollard
Shareef or Lawrence Funderburke
Ron Artest or Doug Christie
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
Beno Udrih or Bobby Jackson
Jason Hart or some homeless guy
Darius Songaila or Shelden Williams

I think these comparisons are a bit better
 
Going by peak one-year PER, minimum 1000 minutes (for lack of a better overall statistical number):

Kevin Martin 21.0 ('07-'08) or Gerald Wallace 21.3 ('05-'06)
Francisco Garcia 15.1 ('07-'08) or Bobby Jackson 19.2 ('03-'04)
Vlade Divac 20.5 ('94-'95) or Brad Miller 20.7 ('04-'05)
Peja Stojakovic 21.8 ('03-'04) or Hedo Turkoglu 17.8 ('07-'08)
Scot Pollard 15.8 ('99-'00) or Kenny Thomas 16.4 ('01-'02)
Lawrence Funderburke 18.0 ('99-'00) or SAR 21.1 ('97-'98)
Doug Christie 16.9 ('98-'99) or Ron Artest 18.8 ('07-'08)
Mike Bibby 19.3 ('03-'04) or Jason Williams 17.1 ('02-'03)

I actually don't think there are a terrible number of surprises there. I didn't think Miller would edge Divac in his best year, but I thought it would be close. Kenny was a better player in his first few years than we've ever seen, and it's easy to forget that in his first eight years Shareef was a very solid player. Funderburke's peak season did surprise me, but it was on 13.7 minutes per game - barely making the 1000 minute cutoff.
 
venom_7 said:
...Jason Hart or some homeless guy
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venom_7 wins the thread.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Going by peak one-year PER, minimum 1000 minutes (for lack of a better overall statistical number):

Vlade Divac 20.5 ('94-'95) or Brad Miller 20.7 ('04-'05)
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Talk about the ultimate proof that mere statistics cannot/do not tell the whole story.

:)
 
This is assuming all the players are in their prime.

Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu
Scot Pollard or Kenny Thomas
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR
Doug Christie or Ron Artest
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
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Now, this is assuming all the players right now. ( if player is retired last year in league)



Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu
Scot Pollard or Kenny thomas
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR
Doug Christie or Ron Artest
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
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VF21 said:
Talk about the ultimate proof that mere statistics cannot/do not tell the whole story.

:)
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ditto... Miller isn't half the player Vlade was in his prime. Vlade did much more than his numbers indicated. Also, will people be talking about retiring Millers number when he leaves like we are with Vlade? Heck no.
 
Kevin Martin
Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac
Peja Stojakovic
Scot Pollard
SAR (If healthy, basically pre Kings SAR)
Ron Artest
Mike Bibby
 
No doubt in my mind Vlade Divac, the perennial good teammate, the crafty veteran, the unselfish player and the veteran leader with the personality to qualify.

Pass first, post up game, rebounding, blocking shots, taking players under his wing. No doubt in my mind.
 
Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu
Scot Pollard or Kenny thomas
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR
Doug Christie or Ron Artest
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
 
Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu - Neither
Scot Pollard or Kenny thomas
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR - CWebb with a limp
Doug Christie or Ron Artest
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
 
i still dont get the fundy-sar and pollard-thomas comparisons... id rather have fudy and pollard at this point since neither can play and would only be paid vet min... as opposed to reef and thomas who will make a combine 14 mil for the next 2 years and cant play....
 
I would take the bolded players, assuming that they could be compared while playing in their prime years:

Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu
Scot Pollard or Kenny thomas
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR
Doug Christie or Ron Artest
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
 
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Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu
Scot Pollard or Kenny Thomas (Neither)
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR
Doug Christie or Ron Artest
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams

Only the last two were hard decisions. Jason was more fun to watch than Mike and Doug is one of my all-time favorite players.
 
Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
could be a toss up, but ima go with the guy who produced while a king.

Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
even though i like garcia, bjax had more of a spark off the bench and doesnt make as many mistakes

Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
statwise, miller, but vlade did more that stats dont show

Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu
though he faded away in the playoffs, he was one of the main reasons we got to the playoffs in the first place

Scot Pollard or Kenny thomas
would definitely take hussle over attitude

Lawrence Funderburke or SAR
dont understand why so many people picked funderburke. SAR at his prime was a 20/10 guy whereas funderburke is a 10/5 at best

Doug Christie or Ron Artest
this one was a hard one. both are great defenders and while artest is a better scorer, christie actually passed the ball when a better shot was available.

Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
better scorer and clutch.
 
Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I'll tell you why I picked Lawrence Funderburke over Shareef Abdur-Rahim: because **** Shareef Abdur-Rahim, that's why.

I didn't pick based on stats, I picked based on who I liked better. And Funderburke is my all-time favorite Sacramento-era King. I like Fundy even more than I like Wallace.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I'll tell you why I picked Lawrence Funderburke over Shareef Abdur-Rahim: because **** Shareef Abdur-Rahim, that's why.

I didn't pick based on stats, I picked based on who I liked better. And Funderburke is my all-time favorite Sacramento-era King. I like Fundy even more than I like Wallace.
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haha i respect that. cant blame a guy for choosing his all-time fav. BUT would u choose him over...i dunno...cwebb?
 
Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace martin
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson bobby jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller vlade
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu hedo
Scot Pollard or Kenny thomas pollard
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR sar
Doug Christie or Ron Artest doug
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams bibby


the skill level here is just gapping. and flooring at the same time. :rolleyes:
 
Aenadin said:
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Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace
Francisco Garcia or Bobby Jackson
Vlade Divac or Brad Miller
Peja Stojakovic or Hedo Turkoglu
Scot Pollard or Kenny thomas
Lawrence Funderburke or SAR
Doug Christie or Ron Artest
Mike Bibby or Jason Williams
:)
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TDOS, but...

K-Mart v Wallace

I can't get over my sense that Wallace is one of those players (a la Shareef back in the day) who puts up great stats, but does not really contribute to a team winning. Kmart excels at scoring and needs to improve his D, but certainly carried us for stretches last year.

Cisco v Jackson

Jackson was older when he broke out than Cisco is now, so this isn't really a fair comarison, but for now I will take the proven winner over someone still finding himself.

Vlade v Miller

If this needs an explanation, you're either not a Kings fan or a kid who's not old enought to remember 2002.

Peja v Hedo

This is a hard one, because in 2002, I always felt our team was stronger with Hedo in against the Lakers (mostly because we had scorers and Hedo was a better defender). However, Peja in his prime was a true star who carried us for whole chunks of the season and I don't think Hedo could ever do that for a team.

Pollard v Thomas

(see Vlade v Brad)

Fundy v SAR

Wash, I loved Fundy, but SAR helping us in the crazy Artest 1/2 season, where we made the playoffs was on par with what Fundy contributed. And both ended up as good 12th men who had good attitudes and never played.

Christie v Artest

I'll take Christie for sanity purposes, but this one really depends on team needs. If I have a team like the Rockets who need a gamble to get to contender status, I'd rather have Artest since he has higher upside. However, if I have a team with a lot of fire power and chemistry like our 2002 Kings, I'd rather have Christie to complement the stars.

Bibby v JWill

JWill brought excitment back to Sacramento, but Bibby made up contenders. And he was/is by far the better basketball player.
 
Sptsjunkie said:
K-Mart v Wallace

I can't get over my sense that Wallace is one of those players (a la Shareef back in the day) who puts up great stats, but does not really contribute to a team winning. Kmart excels at scoring and needs to improve his D, but certainly carried us for stretches last year.
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This is a horrible criteria for trying to make the case for Martin being better. I mean, maybe he is, and maybe he isn't, but based on winning? :confused:
 
Sptsjunkie said:
I can't get over my sense that Wallace is one of those players (a la Shareef back in the day) who puts up great stats, but does not really contribute to a team winning. Kmart excels at scoring and needs to improve his D, but certainly carried us for stretches last year.
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It's understandable that with Wallace playing for Charlotte hardly anybody gets to see him. That's why he hasn't gotten a look at an All Star spot either. Since I got league pass I make it a point to watch Wallace whenever I can (and he's not injured) and I can tell you he's not at all about the stats. That season that Okafor was injured he carried that team with his scoring and his defense. I don't know how the latest concussion will affect his style of play, but he gets those great stats because of the way he plays. He goes all-out to the basket, all-out to block shots, all-out to grab boards. It's just a shame he can't stay healthy. He should be a star in this league yet every time I mention him to people they go "Gerald who?" (unless they play fantasy basketball)
 
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