Who will the Kings draft?

BK_KingsFan said:
I would love for the Kings to draft Joey Graham. Some mock drafts have him as a late first round pick so I think we have a good chance at him. I really hope Petrie is aware of this guy cuz I think he would really help us alot. He kind of reminds me of a young Corliss Williamson. And he plays defense too.

Heres a scouting report on him- http://www.draftcity.com/viewprofile.php?p=88
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I don't think Corliss is the right comparison (and indeed, if it was, we should not draft him). But the guy he could be a little like is interesting -- Jerome Kersey. Another 6'7" converted power player who was an uber athlete and very physical because of it. And of course Jerome was the SF for the great Portland teams of the old Adelman/Petrie era up there.

Difference would be that this kid seems to have more of a shot, but may not be as good a rebounder/shotblocker. And that's significant.
 
The consensus of some 6 different NBAdraft guessing has the following at the Kings position at #23, three PF and one SG:
Joey Graham, OklaSt Sr, 6-7 225
Wayne Simien Kansas Sr, 6-8 255 || injury prone, smart, great nr basket
Sean May, UNC xx, PF
Shannon Brown, MichSt, SG

Seems about right but somehow there has to be one or two Euros in there as well.
 
Not really a fan of Simien. He's kind of a stupid player, doesn't demand the ball in the post the way he should, REALLY injury prone, and plays suspect defense. Graham would be a solid selection, as would Garcia for the 2 spot. But, it's hard to predict what position we target in the draft. I think we trade Peja and Corliss for a PF or OG, and use our pick to fill the other spot, with Kenny Thomas moving to the SF spot.
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I agree...I also don't like his numbers as far as assists...
 
Whomever we pick must play defense, rebound, have good footspeed for transition defense and play above the rim. And cap-wise for a team like ours dominated by vets rookies who can contribute immedirately free up money elsewhere.
 
The draft is very important with our cap situation. You can't continue being an elite team without drafting well.

I stand by what I've mentioned before and that is for Petrie to draft guys with size at their positions. That means no 6'8, 6'9 Simien. I like the guy but once we roll into the playoffs and the elite teams all have forwards and centers at 6'10 and up, it's going to be tough to compete against that. If he was a shot blocker, than maybe, but since he's not, use the pick on someone else.
 
Interesting that the mocks have Ronny Turiaf slipping down into our wheelhouse -- we never draft players like that, but if what we need is a big NBA-ready PF with attitude, defense and hustle, that might be the guy. Never be a star, but work his *** off and maybe inspire a little effort from his less inspired teammates.
 
Bricklayer said:
Interesting that the mocks have Ronny Turiaf slipping down into our wheelhouse -- we never draft players like that, but if what we need is a big NBA-ready PF with attitude, defense and hustle, that might be the guy. Never be a star, but work his *** off and maybe inspire a little effort from his less inspired teammates.
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I agree, I like him. He may not have the ceiling that some other players do, but we really need some of these picks to start panning out. What was the last first round pick that we hit on? Hedo? Aside from the HORRIBLE Darko selection, Petrie needs to start drafting like Dumars, get guys with a fire for the game. No more allegedly cerebral offensive oriented types.

Also, why do people keep calling Simien a "smart" player? Every game I watched of him he was getting outsmarted by the opposing team. He's terrible at recognizing defenses and adjusting. He's not a good leader, as he should have been in everybody's ear demanding the ball in ALL of Kansas' losses. He has a good jumper, but falls back on it too often rather than getting to the line. He plays hard, but doesn't seem to have any real passion. He's a VERY GOOD rebounder, but his defense is mediocre at best. In other words, everything about him screams that he is a Petrie type pick, and anymore that is not a compliment.
 
stooojakovic said:
i agree with Gary, hakkim warrick!!! he'll fill the void gerald wallace left with his monster drunks!!
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Might also fill Gerald's spot on the end of the bench unless he develops a jumper.
 
PejaHoops16 said:
No really he extended his course for one more year. NCAA students are allowed to do that.
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Unless he also got a fifth year eligibilty it does not matter, he was a senior this year. He can take classes next year while on the road, that hoser Vincer Carter did.
 
Draft consensus??

CruzDude said:
The consensus of some 6 different NBAdraft guessing has the following at the Kings position at #23, three PF and one SG:
Joey Graham, OklaSt Sr, 6-7 225
Wayne Simien Kansas Sr, 6-8 255 || injury prone, smart, great nr basket
Sean May, UNC xx, PF
Shannon Brown, MichSt, SG

Seems about right but somehow there has to be one or two Euros in there as well.
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Unless us draft wizards start adding a euro (or latin) or two we may miss out all together. Not that I have one that will be around at our slot but they are making up quite a bit of the NBA now. Maybe if we get a Kenny Thomas who bangs for 10-12 rebs and tosses in 15-20 pts that would be a second go-to guy.

Also we don't seem as athletic as a bunch of up-and-coming teams in the playoffs and our most athletic player, Evans isn't seeing any time. Of the guys on that list above are any of them the athletic types, like Amare or Wade?
 
Probably not too much to be excited about at #23. Although there have been some good finds at or past that, it is the exception, not the rule. Don't look for much value in the draft, rather look at possible trade scenarios. This team is temporary and expect Williamson to be gone by next season.
 
Gargamel said:
He won't slip that far. Toronto at 8 is the first team who will give him a look.
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Exactly. There's a bunch of Laker fans that want him(where 10?) Anyway, we're not getting him. THat said, I'm glad we made the playoffs, I hope we can get out of the 1st round.
 
mr. moustache said:
Exactly. There's a bunch of Laker fans that want him(where 10?) Anyway, we're not getting him.
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Toronto also drafts at 16. He's Bosh's best pal. If the Dinos don't take him at 8 and he gets overlooked (which is unlikely, not with his frame and athleticism and defense), he goes no lower than 16.
 
CruzDude said:
Unless us draft wizards start adding a euro (or latin) or two we may miss out all together. Not that I have one that will be around at our slot but they are making up quite a bit of the NBA now. Maybe if we get a Kenny Thomas who bangs for 10-12 rebs and tosses in 15-20 pts that would be a second go-to guy.

Also we don't seem as athletic as a bunch of up-and-coming teams in the playoffs and our most athletic player, Evans isn't seeing any time. Of the guys on that list above are any of them the athletic types, like Amare or Wade?
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Brown is extremely athletic. So is Simien, but he has no idea how to use it, and when he does he hurts himself. Graham is a good athlete as well. Sean May is just a space eater, which we need, but his D is suspect. Although his rebounding ability makes up for that.

I kind of like Villanueva. He should have stayed another year, but since he didn't, I think the Kings should give him a good long look.
 
Gargamel said:
Toronto also drafts at 16. He's Bosh's best pal. If the Dinos don't take him at 8 and he gets overlooked (which is unlikely, not with his frame and athleticism and defense), he goes no lower than 16.
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As I recall, Paul Pierce was a lock to be a Top 3 pick. Just sayin'...
 
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